Hard, elite acess for all players on hardcore

[Hoock3r]

Im a premiun player, i bought a lot of quests on this game, tomes too. I dont pay vip acess, dont see a reason for that as i play only 3 or 4 days a month.

Hardcore is when i really play this game, and having no acess to hard and elite mode on quests really sucks. and i think even for anyone who dont spend any money on this game it should be unlocked at least on hardcore.

on normal leagues ppl have time to farm past lifes and get acess for that, on hardcore it only separates vip players too much from others.

[darkniteyogi]

I agree. But i don't think VIPs would like it. They seem to already be super upset that they are locked in being VIP without having enough rewards.

You can however buy keys from the DDO store to unlock elite. It would be expensive. I think one key is 25 DDO points. I am a solo player so it is not fun for me to have to do N/H/E, but it does encourage grouping, which I think is also healthy for the community, so there's that.

[Hafeal]

I dont pay vip access ... and having no acess to hard and elite mode on quests really sucks. and i think even for anyone who dont spend any money on this game it should be unlocked at least on hardcore.

So you are saying ...

1. Let's take a perk away from ViP simply because you do not want to be ViP and yet want the perk

2. DDO should not be run for profit ... they should simply make the game free ... especially a really popular feature for players who only burst play.

Huh.

I don't know any for-profit game that does this and I'm gonna go with a solid "No".

[HedgeHogShadow]

I dont pay vip acess, dont see a reason for that as i play only 3 or 4 days a month.

Hardcore is when i really play this game, and having no acess to hard and elite mode on quests really sucks.

I think you just solved your own problem. Subscribe during hardcore.

[Dendrix]

Im a premiun player, i bought a lot of quests on this game, tomes too. I dont pay vip acess, dont see a reason for that as i play only 3 or 4 days a month.

Hardcore is when i really play this game, and having no acess to hard and elite mode on quests really sucks. and i think even for anyone who dont spend any money on this game it should be unlocked at least on hardcore.

I pay for elite and get this as a part of my benefits from paying. I don't think you should get for free what I have to pay for
I think you should subscribe to become a VIP while Hardcore is on as you play a lot while it is on.

[Hoock3r]

I pay for elite and get this as a part of my benefits from paying. I don't think you should get for free what I have to pay for
I think you should subscribe to become a VIP while Hardcore is on as you play a lot while it is on.

Sry i still dont agree. I said i paid for lots of things in this game, more than any other game is sold on the market. And is really bad seeing vip players wanting to have this advantage over other hardcore players, why dont u just start with +10 to all stats, would it make u happier for what u pay? If i was a vip player i would like a fair dispute for hardcore league, then i can say im true hardcore player and deserve whatever prize u get on hardcore league.

Standart league is already there for vip players to show their money over others. Hardcore is a good place to get things done fair.

[SoulDustar]

I guess since the OP has no desire to pay for a short time sub to open elite the best solution might be to make HCL vip access only again. That would solve the problem for them.

[jskinner937]

Sry i still dont agree. I said i paid for lots of things in this game, more than any other game is sold on the market. And is really bad seeing vip players wanting to have this advantage over other hardcore players, why dont u just start with +10 to all stats, would it make u happier for what u pay? If i was a vip player i would like a fair dispute for hardcore league, then i can say im true hardcore player and deserve whatever prize u get on hardcore league.

Standart league is already there for vip players to show their money over others. Hardcore is a good place to get things done fair.

You pay for other things you want, but not this. I am sorry this is just not justified. You can sub for 1 month and cancel after hardcore ends. You said yourself that’s when you really play. So it’s worth it right?

[rabidfox]

I pay for VIP and find the hard/elite locks silly. The game is way too easy on normal and I feel bad for new/1st life fp2 players (that aren't in a party) being stuck with running things initially in boring easy mode and having to do them all 3 times each to get the more challenging experience. Most experienced players will have the past lives to just run on elite with or without VIP status (except on HC); so other than when HC is up, I'm paying for a feature that does zero for me. I'd rather everyone be able to run any difficulty and VIP be given other benefits; but that's just me, others probably have entire different things they'd like/dislike as VIP perks.

[SoulDustar]

guess your daddy pay all for you uhm?

That is a line that I will not stand for on the forums or real life. You have no idea about anything to do with myself of my father. You should keep your snide comments to yourself regarding all others and their lives outside of this game.

No apologies necessary

/ignored


Reported

[fatherpirate]

OP - sorry, not a chance in hell.

HCL is a SSG cash cow. They will not do a single thing to reduce profit from it.
From their stand point, either pony up a subscription or buy a bunch
of expensive keys or no prizes for you !

HCL is absolutely pay to win.

Minimum entry fee for prizes past the 1 cloak is a subscription $15.00 - $45.00
(1-3 months) or hell grinding.

Reaper prizes cost more, but mainly to whales who (bless their souls)
pony up the BIG money for maxed out guild ships with every buff
available on day one for other players to use. (I do credit them
for helping with the deep pockets, without those maxed out guild
ships only a few players would get the top reaper prizes)
(thank you whales)

So you want to have hard opened up to anyone who has paid in the past? (prem.)
I totally agree, and not just for HCL
But SSG will never knowingly reduce the value of VIP sub. lower than it already is.

PEACE

[Arkat]

So you are saying ...

1. Let's take a perk away from ViP simply because you do not want to be ViP and yet want the perk

2. DDO should not be run for profit ... they should simply make the game free ... especially a really popular feature for players who only burst play.

Huh.

I don't know any for-profit game that does this and I'm gonna go with a solid "No".

Well said.

+1

[RavenStormclaw]

OP - sorry, not a chance in hell.

HCL is a SSG cash cow. They will not do a single thing to reduce profit from it.
From their stand point, either pony up a subscription or buy a bunch
of expensive keys or no prizes for you !

HCL is absolutely pay to win.

Minimum entry fee for prizes past the 1 cloak is a subscription $15.00 - $45.00
(1-3 months) or hell grinding.

Reaper prizes cost more, but mainly to whales who (bless their souls)
pony up the BIG money for maxed out guild ships with every buff
available on day one for other players to use. (I do credit them
for helping with the deep pockets, without those maxed out guild
ships only a few players would get the top reaper prizes)
(thank you whales)

So you want to have hard opened up to anyone who has paid in the past? (prem.)
I totally agree, and not just for HCL
But SSG will never knowingly reduce the value of VIP sub. lower than it already is.

PEACE

Just to correct one thing. You can not have a maxed out guild ship on day 1. The buffs are still level gated by guild level and have to be earned. Quickest I've seen to get most useful buffs is 8 days in. So yea hats off to those who buy the big ships and help out but max buffs on day 1 is simply not true.

[Saekee]

I am premium and am ok with not opening elite on HC.

Yes it is a pain BUT note that on HC you can find groups unlike on regular servers in which it is spotty.

[Oxarhamar]

Im a premiun player, i bought a lot of quests on this game, tomes too. I dont pay vip acess, dont see a reason for that as i play only 3 or 4 days a month.

Hardcore is when i really play this game, and having no acess to hard and elite mode on quests really sucks. and i think even for anyone who dont spend any money on this game it should be unlocked at least on hardcore.

on normal leagues ppl have time to farm past lifes and get acess for that, on hardcore it only separates vip players too much from others.

What is normal leagues?

What is stopping you from getting TR to get past the elite lockout. You want the VIP benifit for free you can earn it for free

There are so many groups doing content on HCL try putting up an lfm someone who can open

[Oxarhamar]

OP - sorry, not a chance in hell.

HCL is a SSG cash cow. They will not do a single thing to reduce profit from it.
From their stand point, either pony up a subscription or buy a bunch
of expensive keys or no prizes for you !

HCL is absolutely pay to win.

Minimum entry fee for prizes past the 1 cloak is a subscription $15.00 - $45.00
(1-3 months) or hell grinding.

Reaper prizes cost more, but mainly to whales who (bless their souls)
pony up the BIG money for maxed out guild ships with every buff
available on day one for other players to use. (I do credit them
for helping with the deep pockets, without those maxed out guild
ships only a few players would get the top reaper prizes)
(thank you whales)

So you want to have hard opened up to anyone who has paid in the past? (prem.)
I totally agree, and not just for HCL
But SSG will never knowingly reduce the value of VIP sub. lower than it already is.

PEACE

HCL is not pay to win even when HCL was VIP only it was only pay for access

HCL may bring income from those who choose to make aditional purchases but none of that is necessary to participate

[sturmbb]

Im a premiun player, i bought a lot of quests on this game, tomes too. I dont pay vip acess, dont see a reason for that as i play only 3 or 4 days a month.

Hardcore is when i really play this game, and having no acess to hard and elite mode on quests really sucks. and i think even for anyone who dont spend any money on this game it should be unlocked at least on hardcore.

on normal leagues ppl have time to farm past lifes and get acess for that, on hardcore it only separates vip players too much from others.

I'm sorry but i completely disagree with this also. For the last year ive been a subscriber to VIP (even though i only play when HCL is on) i dont need to be HCL i pretty much have everything as i was a full time premium player for a long time so pretty much bought everything. The number one reason i subscribe to VIP was to be able to unlock Elite difficulty on HCL.

VIPS are getting less and less benefits (i mean the mini expansion was a slap in the face to all VIP susbscribers, and also the Free Quest unlocks (which i do believe is a good idea) is another slap in the face to VIPS because its another benefit they have given to everyone. (at the very least is they should have given extra DDO points to VIPs for the duration of the offer).

I have let my VIP run out, as i don't believe the benefits are worth it anymore. I may address this when HCL starts up again, but if do subscribe it will only be while HCL is on.
SSG really need to start improving on the benefits to VIP rather than taking the benefits away. I believe at the beginning of the year SSG did state they were looking to improve
on the benefits of VIP but as yet have not acted upon this. (i suppose they did give the Saltmarsh VIP Elixir of Discovery as a benefit which is a start but they really need to improve)

I actually think SSG have not thought this through at all. At the end of the day this is a video game and benefits given over are digital which means it doesn't cost the company money to give VIP benefits (if a nightclub give free drinks to VIP than it would cost the nightclub money to give drinks away for free etc). If anything by giving more benefits it would attract more people to subscribe to VIP which in turn would generate more money for SSG which they could use to either improve the structure of the game or even just use it as profits to give to there share holders.

I'm still hoping one day SSG will come to there senses and start making VIP status appealing to the masses so it generates more income. Time will tell

[Zargarx]

Unless VIP has something else special (hello player housing!), why would SSG give this VIP perk for free? Lots of people get VIP just for hardcore (well I do and some others I know do... so lots of people?) so...
That said, I do wish they would sell permanent hard unlock for ddo points (would be lots of ddo points I guess, perhaps 3K?).
Also I've suggested in the past that level 1 quests on Korthos have hard automatically unlocked; perhaps SSG can market that for upselling to VIP.

[fatherpirate]

If player housing came to the game, it would be one of 2 forms.

Currency Sink - any house bigger than 1 square room will require
payments of some sort (AD or Plat) monthly.

Cash Cow - they will just flat out sell houses in the coin store, the
best ones would require real cash in the market place.

--------- Housing added to VIP as a benefit ? nope

[Oxarhamar]

If player housing came to the game, it would be one of 2 forms.

Currency Sink - any house bigger than 1 square room will require
payments of some sort (AD or Plat) monthly.

Cash Cow - they will just flat out sell houses in the coin store, the
best ones would require real cash in the market place.

--------- Housing added to VIP as a benefit ? nope

Obviously you missed the Dev live stream

It would be much better to be informed instead of just making things up