I Don't get it

[Teamoldguy]

OK forgive me but I dont get it. What's with XP is it useless now?
I used to grind away get little bits on my epic bar light up a circle and click a skill. Simple.
Now XP doesn't make my bar move and I can't see a way of grabbing these new epic skills now I've used all the points I was dealt when I come into this fiasco of an update
What am I missing? Is XP a thing of the past seeing my bar says Maximum epic XP achieved? If so what's the point?

[slarden]

For epic levels they added tiers like heroic so it's showing you progress to the next tier not the next level.

[SlowDM]

Neither do I. Wait a month until some/many bugs are fixed. Also the smart players post real info.

[Teamoldguy]

For epic levels they added tiers like heroic so it's showing you progress to the next tier not the next level.

Cheers for replying.
Cant see tiers just see a bar that says Maximum Epic XP achieved. Run a dungeon. No movement.

SlowDM Think you are right might just play something else now, Trouble is if I get into that it's so long DDO. I'm old got an attention span of a gnat. Happened with EVE then Elite odds on it'll happen here if I take an extended break.

[Bluenoser]

Cheers for replying.
Cant see tiers just see a bar that says Maximum Epic XP achieved. Run a dungeon. No movement.

Are you already lvl 30? If so, you won't see any more xp progression. You don't need it for epic destinies anymore--you speak to the epic trainer to go into a zone to unlock all of the destinies (no xp or questing required), and you spend destiny points. You get more DP automatically as you level up after 20, but if you're 30 you'll get a pile to spend (more if you have a bunch of epic past lives).

If you're under lvl 30, you might have to click on the side of the progression bar to cycle through different display options (that's how it was before U51, anyway)

[LazarusPossum]

For epic levels they added tiers like heroic so it's showing you progress to the next tier not the next level.

So if I understand correctly, they have done away with the "two bars" for xp and epic xp, and consolidated into one bar? And there is no longer an "active destiny", just picking and choosing which ones you want to use?

And I'm still unsure how I'm supposed to spend my fate points.

[Bluenoser]

So if I understand correctly, they have done away with the "two bars" for xp and epic xp, and consolidated into one bar? And there is no longer an "active destiny", just picking and choosing which ones you want to use?

And I'm still unsure how I'm supposed to spend my fate points.

Hit control-E to open up your epic destiny window (or select it from the pop-up menu, bottom left of DDO screen), spend your points. You can only spend in 3 destinies. At level 20, you can only get the first core of a destiny and spend in the first 2 tiers.

[slarden]

Cheers for replying.
Cant see tiers just see a bar that says Maximum Epic XP achieved. Run a dungeon. No movement.

SlowDM Think you are right might just play something else now, Trouble is if I get into that it's so long DDO. I'm old got an attention span of a gnat. Happened with EVE then Elite odds on it'll happen here if I take an extended break.

So if I understand correctly, they have done away with the "two bars" for xp and epic xp, and consolidated into one bar? And there is no longer an "active destiny", just picking and choosing which ones you want to use?

And I'm still unsure how I'm supposed to spend my fate points.

Apologies, I misunderstood the question.

If you haven't already done so you need to go the epic trainer and talk to all 12 trainers which will give you 12 permanent points (from 36 fate points). Until you do that you can't spend anything.

Once you do that there is no leveling up destinies, karma, etc. Just open up epic destinies and spend points. It's more like the heroic enhancement system so you don't get all points at once unloess you are level 30 already. You get points as you level up.

Spending Points: If you are vip you can open the epic destiny tab and spend points from anywhere. If you are not vip you have to talk to an epic trainer to spend your points.

Fate points are converted to destiny points (fate points are included in permanent points), so you don't spend them separately like twists. Instead you spend those points as part of your destiny spend in the trees.

Consider watching some voodu videos such as this one: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1195696613 Skip to about 50 minutes in.

[droid327]

Apologies, I misunderstood the question. If you are vip you can open the epic destiny tab and spend points from anywhere. If you are not vip you have to talk to an epic trainer to spend your points.

Fate points are converted to destiny points (fate points are included in permanent points), so you don't spend them separately like twists. Instead you spend those points as part of your destiny spend in the trees.

I think anyone can swap destiny points anywhere now...so, congrats vip on losing another perk I guess lol

[Teamoldguy]

OK thanks everyone. I still dont get it. Toon is LVL 30 I did all the trainers spent the points I had. So how do I get more to advance the trees? Whats the point in XP when you cant get any now. Therefore optional quests in dungeons are pointless now. Indeed doing any dungeon is pointless now. I cant see the progression.

[SpardaX]

And I'm still unsure how I'm supposed to spend my fate points.

You no longer spend fate points. Fate points now give you 1 HP and 2 SP per point, and every 3 fate points gives you 1 destiny point (Epic Action Point). Thats now what you spend. On your 3 destiny trees.

[archest]

OK forgive me but I dont get it. What's with XP is it useless now?
I used to grind away get little bits on my epic bar light up a circle and click a skill. Simple.
Now XP doesn't make my bar move and I can't see a way of grabbing these new epic skills now I've used all the points I was dealt when I come into this fiasco of an update
What am I missing? Is XP a thing of the past seeing my bar says Maximum epic XP achieved? If so what's the point?

I believe there was a 2nd update today which corrected the issue of the epic xp bar still representing an obsolete xp .
there are no more destiny xp earned only total epic xp.
like the heroic system as you gain xp and earn points at particular points in the leveling process.
not sure if the system includes a blue dot notification like heroics do?