How do I TR if I can't get Tokens to buy hearts?

[FURYous]

It looks like all the places I know to farm tokens are shut down, how do I get a Heart of Blood if I can't get tokens?

[C-Dog]

I dunno, learn that Sentinals pack is not the only place to farm them?

Devil Assault?
Lords of Dust?
Vault of Night?
Red Fens?

o https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Token_...at_drop_tokens

[FURYous]

I dunno, learn that Sentinals pack is not the only place to farm them?

Devil Assault?
Lords of Dust?
Vault of Night?
Red Fens?

o https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Token_...at_drop_tokens

Good input but the sarcasm was unnecessary.

Devil's assault takes 20+ minutes to complete due to wave timers. (BoB takes 3 mins)
LoD I honestly forgot about, still take longer than BoB but much better than DA
VoN and Red Fens, Same as LoD but I didn't forget about them, just don't normally do them for tokens

And it isn't just the sentinel's pack. The Desert pack is down too so can't do OOB which is one of my go to places.

[Saekee]

if level 21 you can do lava caves time is money—a few minutes and use mats to buy tokens

ignore this if you are level 20 which is probably the case anyway

[JOTMON]

and of course SSG's preferred method.. the DDO STORE $$ $$ $$

[Seph1roth5]

The quest closures blow. Devs please extend the epic xp boost for 1-2 weeks AFTER the last u51 patch.

That being said, I love DA for tokens, but I'm a lazy token farmer. Oddly enough, I join people's DA often and pass them the tokens. It's a good time to eat a sandwich or catch up on a mobile game while they finish the quest heh.

[Oxarhamar]

The quest closures blow. Devs please extend the epic xp boost for 1-2 weeks AFTER the last u51 patch.

That being said, I love DA for tokens, but I'm a lazy token farmer. Oddly enough, I join people's DA often and pass them the tokens. It's a good time to eat a sandwich or catch up on a mobile game while they finish the quest heh.

Always love to join DA and pass tokens even though it may be slow it’s free XP and helping players get on to the next TR

[Artos_Fabril]

Good input but the sarcasm was unnecessary.

Devil's assault takes 20+ minutes to complete due to wave timers. (BoB takes 3 mins)
LoD I honestly forgot about, still take longer than BoB but much better than DA
VoN and Red Fens, Same as LoD but I didn't forget about them, just don't normally do them for tokens

And it isn't just the sentinel's pack. The Desert pack is down too so can't do OOB which is one of my go to places.

So the complaint isn't that you can't get tokens, but that you can't rip trough a couple of fast farms to get them.

I'm not saying that you should be forced to spend more time playing a part of the game you don't enjoy, but you know as well as anyone that the business model is all about getting you to pay to avoid that sort of grind, so the only real surprise is that you could get an appreciable number of tokens from a 3 minute quest.

[FURYous]

So the complaint isn't that you can't get tokens, but that you can't rip trough a couple of fast farms to get them.

I'm not saying that you should be forced to spend more time playing a part of the game you don't enjoy, but you know as well as anyone that the business model is all about getting you to pay to avoid that sort of grind, so the only real surprise is that you could get an appreciable number of tokens from a 3 minute quest.

Being as you need 20 tokens for one heart, you have to invest a considerable amount of time farming the same OLD quests to do NEW TRs. It is a silly system that reminds of when they forced you to farm tokens to level.

Make all the hearts available via components out of all the quests or add tokens as a choice to the end loot of the current quests that people actually run or something. It's bad enough that I have to grind out a whole life for a minor upgrade but to force me to run 20+ quests AFTER I am level 20 just to TR again blows.

It sucks to beg friends to join my quests just to pass tokens in areas where all the other loot is junk, it's a complete waste of time for them to run LoD (for instance) at level when they could be running current quests for items that they would use. Why limit the tokens to worthless quests?

[Artos_Fabril]

It's bad enough that I have to grind out a whole life for a minor upgrade but to force me to run 20+ quests AFTER I am level 20 just to TR again blows.

I think I see the problem now, the additional explanation really clarified things.

[C-Dog]

Good input but the sarcasm was unnecessary.

You started playing in 2006, and you ask this question?... Hrmmm... define "unnecessary"...

Devil's assault takes 20+ minutes to complete due to wave timers.

True, but you can ask for folk to "pass tokens", and quite often get help in that department. So 20 minutes for several or more.

I know it's not the optimal choice, but you asked for options, not equivalents.


And I forgot to mention that some players swear by the Epic Cannith Challenges; 5 ingredients to 1 Fragment or 300 of any one ingredient for a whole Token. Depends how familiar you are w/ those as to whether that's "fast" or no.

[darkniteyogi]

By the way, Devil Assault... it's 30 minutes but FEELS like 2 hours.

Anyway, On Epic Elite, with 3 accounts, I run it and only get fragments. That is unacceptable.

Didn't this quest use to give 1-2 tokens?

It is BS, the dumbest and most useless quest in the game

[jskinner937]

It looks like all the places I know to farm tokens are shut down, how do I get a Heart of Blood if I can't get tokens?

Complete quest, and put up LFM to pass tokens. Wait to fill before eopening purple and gold chest. You would be surprised how many will join to help. I join these all the time.

[FURYous]

Complete quest, and put up LFM to pass tokens. Wait to fill before eopening purple and gold chest. You would be surprised how many will join to help. I join these all the time.

so 30 mins to do the quest, another 30 mins to fill the group, let's say an hour for 6 tokens (if all pass and the group fills) to get 20 I would need to the quest 5 times. 5 hours IF I can find 5 people to join me for all the runs.

Fun?

[Valerianus]

i think atm you best bet is getting a full party of friends\guildies, possibly at lvl 30 for moar speed, all tokens to you, lord of dust ee speedy zerg.

[Stoner81]

VoN 3 gives 2 tokens on EE and completable in 15 minutes or less, drag a bunch of friends (or bot accounts) and you will be drowning in tokens in no time.

Stoner81.

[donblas]

By the way, Devil Assault... it's 30 minutes but FEELS like 2 hours.

Anyway, On Epic Elite, with 3 accounts, I run it and only get fragments. That is unacceptable.

Didn't this quest use to give 1-2 tokens?

It is BS, the dumbest and most useless quest in the game

I think Devil Assault may well give more tokens on epic normal - that's where I farmed a bunch of tokens recently.

[C-Dog]

so 30 mins to do the quest, another 30 mins to fill the group...

Again, you're acting as if you've never played this game before, or at least never this quest. But you have, and for some 15 years, so, what... you're just being a drama queen?

You put up an LFM and run it on E Normal (which, for this quest, gives the same number of tokens). You start - you can solo it, bring a hire if you have to. People join during the time to run it, and pike outside the fight. You talk a lot w/ the group, and they talk while you're fighting, which helps pass the time. At the end, everyone comes in and either passes tokens or doesn't (but chances are some will). Done.