Absolute Zero is an absolute zero.

[Certon]

When I saw warlocks had the ability to freeze opponents permanently, I was fascinated with the idea. I thought it would be COOL (pun intended.)

But in Epic quests, not so much--nevermind on Legendary. There's no way to scale these up except by raising your primary stat, and with the stat squish, that actually means Absolute Zero is even less effective. Sure, it kills fire creatures no save, but I notice at high levels there aren't many of those.

At least give Absolute Zero and the other Warlock abilities similar to it some bonus that can be mitigated by feats and equipment. Please?

[Amastris]

Stat squish and removal of CHA from all the ED's (with some exceptions) killed this ability. i loved using it in reaper but now the DC is so low on it from all the C-R-A-P they did for U50/51 that you're right it's pretty useless in high end content. shame too. Maybe Quintin will address this in the new [NAME REDACTED] "warlock" tree that has been pushed way back but i wouldn't bet on it. so yeah warlocks are under the bus yet again with absolute zero being junk now.

[slarden]

I am getting absolute zero to work alot in high Rs. It goes against a will save so it's not going to work on orc divines for sure, but it does work on a wide range of enemies and esp hard-hitting melees.

I actually find the fire thing annoying because it means it effectively doesn't work on orange named fire enemies since they are immune to death effects - so instead of freezing those it does nothing.

At least imo as someone spec'd with high DC it's the most powerful warlock pact ability in the game.

[typherius84]

I have already raised this issue on these forums but it has fallen on deaf ears. The stat squish and removal of stats on the destiny affects us warlocks more so than other casters due to the spell formulas for our signature spell abilities requires Charisma alone so it’s not going to scale well and there’s no practical way to increase the DC. The Devs need to update the spell dc formula to allow for evocation / conjuration/ necromancy etc schools to also boosts it.

Until we get an official response, assume no one is listening. Maybe even post in the general chat where there’s more ‘traffic’.

Unfortunately for this game, if you want changes to happen, you gotta make a bit of a noise, or else u will be left behind and be forgotten. Remember warlocks are not a popular class.

[slarden]

I have already raised this issue on these forums but it has fallen on deaf ears. The stat squish and removal of stats on the destiny affects us warlocks more so than other casters due to the spell formulas for our signature spell abilities requires Charisma alone so it’s not going to scale well and there’s no practical way to increase the DC. The Devs need to update the spell dc formula to allow for evocation / conjuration/ necromancy etc schools to also boosts it.

Until we get an official response, assume no one is listening. Maybe even post in the general chat where there’s more ‘traffic’.

Unfortunately for this game, if you want changes to happen, you gotta make a bit of a noise, or else u will be left behind and be forgotten. Remember warlocks are not a popular class.

The time to chime in was here when warlock was on Lamannia: Lamannia Warlock Feedback - Official Thread (ddo.com)

Warlock was originally given the same sort of dc buffs as bard - not quite as good but close. Iriale, Sir valentine and few others successfully convinced the devs to nerf most of the DCs in the tree because of exalted angel and because they claimed warlocks didn't need maximize and empower - lol. That is an obsolete argument now, but warlock still has the worst DC support of any caster. It was really a wrong argument then but it aged extremely poorly. Regardless, the devs saw it their way.