U51 Preview 2: Feat Changes + New Feats

[AebroKomatme]

There are quite a few class restricted, even enhancement tree-specific epic feats, e.g., Master of Knowledge, Master of the Wilds, Inspire Excellence, Improved Sneak Attack, Epic Eldritch Blast, etc. If it's a terrible idea, it's an old terrible idea. I on the other hand, like it a lot.

Admittedly, I did overlook monk, bard and rogue specific epic feats. I have no issues with those, or a feat for rangers specifically either. But it's only going to open up a can of worms when people start requesting specific things for their specific classes, and lots of people are going to be left out.

If they could do an epic destiny pass that adds feats for all classes at the same time, I'd have no objections whatsoever. But that's a lot of work, and it looks like they've already got entirely too much on their plates as it is.

[Tilomere]

But it's only going to open up a can of worms when people start requesting specific things for their specific classes, and lots of people are going to be left out.

Alchemist: Master of Spellvials
Artificer: Master of Artifice, Master of Air, Master of Repeaters
Barbarian: Epic DR (U51)
Bard: Inspire Excellence, Master of Music
Cleric: Master of Alignment, Master of Light
Druid: Master of the Wilds, Bulwark of Defense
Favored Soul: Master of Alignment, Master of Light
Fighter: Bulwark of Defense
Monk: Improved Martial Arts, Vorpal Strikes
Paladin: Bulwark of Defense
Ranger:
Rogue: Improved Sneak Attack
Sorc: Master of Earth/Air/Fire/Water
Warlock: Epic Eldritch Blast/Master of Dead
Wizard: Master of Knowledge/Dead

I only see 1 left out that is filled in D&D 3.5. On second thought, can they implement Death of Enemies from 3.5 instead.

[Gnominal_Aphasia]

Hi, I think a lot of players would welcome a [much needed?] buff for exotic repeater builds... I do.

There are ways of increasing exotic crossbow damage that would simplify implementation and avoid/minimize potential real time calculations...

I think I understand that SSG wishes to reduce the disparity between the Inquisitor [non-repeating, non-exotic] crossbow builds and the other, exotic, crossbow builds; this is a good thing in my eyes.

But in an age of transparency and when an important "mass" of players realise the causes of in-game lag/freezes/slow-downs due to the nature of the game's engine's limitations with the very large number of real-time calculations and effects, why add yet another potential cause for frustration?

Why complicate life by adding a 4th bolt? I get that a fourth shot would add damage and, if applicable, an extra chance of a debuffing effect, but is that worth the cost of adding more real-time stress to DDO? Bridging the damage gap between Inquistor builds and Exotic crossbow builds can be achieved differently without the need to further stress the system:

(1) increase base damage for all exotic crossbows, including Great Crossbows [which would help our poor Mechanic friends], and

(2) increase Doubleshot for all exotic crossbows... either in function of character level or by simply giving exotic crossbows an inherent extra doubleshot bonus. I mean, they are exotic weapons, so let's make them truly special!

[elvesunited]

Hi, I think a lot of players would welcome a [much needed?] buff for exotic repeater builds... I do.

There are ways of increasing exotic crossbow damage that would simplify implementation and avoid/minimize potential real time calculations...

I think I understand that SSG wishes to reduce the disparity between the Inquisitor [non-repeating, non-exotic] crossbow builds and the other, exotic, crossbow builds; this is a good thing in my eyes.

But in an age of transparency and when an important "mass" of players realise the causes of in-game lag/freezes/slow-downs due to the nature of the game's engine's limitations with the very large number of real-time calculations and effects, why add yet another potential cause for frustration?

Why complicate life by adding a 4th bolt? I get that a fourth shot would add damage and, if applicable, an extra chance of a debuffing effect, but is that worth the cost of adding more real-time stress to DDO? Bridging the damage gap between Inquistor builds and Exotic crossbow builds can be achieved differently without the need to further stress the system:

(1) increase base damage for all exotic crossbows, including Great Crossbows [which would help our poor Mechanic friends], and

(2) increase Doubleshot for all exotic crossbows... either in function of character level or by simply giving exotic crossbows an inherent extra doubleshot bonus. I mean, they are exotic weapons, so let's make them truly special!

While were about to get a fresh round off updates that may change everything.

Dark Imbuement epic strike ( no need to go deep in this tree )
combined with Shriadi destiny mantle

would process a lot of extra damage and effects for a mechanic rogue armed with a repeater given how each shot of a repeater is processed separately.

[AebroKomatme]

Ok, my ire didn’t exactly age well.

There are new class specific barbarian and arti epic feats in the new update…

Dammit.

[AebroKomatme]

Alchemist: Master of Spellvials
Artificer: Master of Artifice, Master of Air, Master of Repeaters
Barbarian: Epic DR (U51)
Bard: Inspire Excellence, Master of Music
Cleric: Master of Alignment, Master of Light
Druid: Master of the Wilds, Bulwark of Defense
Favored Soul: Master of Alignment, Master of Light
Fighter: Bulwark of Defense
Monk: Improved Martial Arts, Vorpal Strikes
Paladin: Bulwark of Defense
Ranger:
Rogue: Improved Sneak Attack
Sorc: Master of Earth/Air/Fire/Water
Warlock: Epic Eldritch Blast/Master of Dead
Wizard: Master of Knowledge/Dead

I only see 1 left out that is filled in D&D 3.5. On second thought, can they implement Death of Enemies from 3.5 instead.

Um, why are you even trying to fill out your list by calling things that even you have listed as useable by several classes as class specific? This isn’t the first time I’ve seen conflation used to polish a turd of an argument.

Regardless, since they’re now giving specific epic feats to barbs and artys, I can’t be bothered to care now.