U51 Preview 1: Overall Info

[WargamerIV]

I was wondering if U51 will include any new content other than the Epic Destiny changes? I'm not counting all the fixes, but new quests, etc.

[DeathbringerGod]

Stunning attacks felt weak or almost useless in LE difficulty... almost all the time mobs save the DC!
What would be a good number for stunning DC? Maybe the mobs are still too strong on those saves? Trip DC too...
Is not fun at all really... haha

Before update 50 with a 80 DC was almost enough to stun or trip everything...

If you are playing a Fighter and use all those feats to rise combat tactics DC for nothing in the end....

[Thar]

overall the defensive capabilities seem too weak or too short or both for the mantles and other destiny abilites in general. 5

yes meld was good but only for a few sec. with mobs hitting for 1000 pts + there needs to be increased capacity to take a hit or get missed (AC or dodge). AC is tricky as you need craxy high amount to make it a reliable option that most classes can't get to.

dps is down so we need to be able to stay up to fight longer.

[WruntJunior]

Stunning attacks felt weak or almost useless in LE difficulty... almost all the time mobs save the DC!
What would be a good number for stunning DC? Maybe the mobs are still too strong on those saves? Trip DC too...
Is not fun at all really... haha

Before update 50 with a 80 DC was almost enough to stun or trip everything...

If you are playing a Fighter and use all those feats to rise combat tactics DC for nothing in the end....

I had >90 DC instakills on my (dps, not dc) sorc pre-u50. Enemies in Sharn content and later would often make their saves. Where were you stunning everything with an 80 DC?

[DeathbringerGod]

I had >90 DC instakills on my (dps, not dc) sorc pre-u50. Enemies in Sharn content and later would often make their saves. Where were you stunning everything with an 80 DC?

Maybe I'm confused... the DC of tactics was higher before update 50? Anyway, even with 90-93 DC I fail to stun

[WruntJunior]

Maybe I'm confused... the DC of tactics was higher before update 50? Anyway, even with 90-93 DC I fail to stun

Yeah, the saves of enemies were 16 higher in legendary sharn+ content.

[rabidfox]

I was wondering if U51 will include any new content other than the Epic Destiny changes? I'm not counting all the fixes, but new quests, etc.

From what Steel said the other day, u51 won't have new content, but we should see the Wild Hunt content (/raid) sometime after u51 and before the end of the year.

[DarkSkysz]

Potions may now be used while moving

What new passive alchemists will get since they already have that?

[Lotoc]

Just a suggestion to improve potential build diversity
Could the melee/ranged power in the cores be made nonstacking and be bumped up a bit to compensate?
As of now basically anyone with an intent to optimize is planning to go at least/at most 11 points in their second and third trees purely because the cores stack and it will let you get 90 melee power, this option (and ultimately requirement) is going to restrict builds a lot, for instance an eldritch knight isn't really going to be dipping into draconic for spellsword dice because the 30 melee power from a different tree that offers it is too valuable.
Personally I'd suggest making each core somewhere like 20-25 melee power for an end result of 60/75, not stacking with other trees. This would overall be a slight nerf because almost everyone is going to just triple up on cores anyway as things are but it'd be a fair exchange for freeing up the points and allowing a better variety of builds to be truly supported rather than being traps.

[Malekithe]

Shadow Dragon Incarnate!