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    Default Chain Build, could use tips on finishing it

    So, I think I have the main bulk of the build down but not sure if i'm doing it correctly. I could use some tips or to know if im on the right track.

    Its basically using Strimtom's ultimate crit handaxe build that i heard him talk about in a video or stream with all rouge and 5barb/3bard.

    Anyway here is the build and any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


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    Classes: 12 Rogue, 10 Epic, 5 Barbarian, 3 Bard
    Race: Shadar-Kai· · · · · ·Alignment: Neutral

    · · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · ·0% · · ·Displacement:· · 0%
    Str:· · 18· · 8 · ·44 · · ·HP:· · · · 861 · · ·AC:· · 42
    Dex:· · 14· · 8 · ·25 · · ·PRR: · · · ·30
    Con:· · 16· · 8 · ·31 · · ·MRR: · · · ·23 · · ·+Healing Amp:· · 40
    Int:· · 14· · 8 · ·25 · · ·Dodge: · 20/25 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · ·0
    Wis:· · ·8· · 8 · ·19 · · ·Fort:· · · 15% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · ·0
    Cha:· · ·6· · 8 · ·15 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 21
    DR: 4%
    Immunities: Charisma Damage

    Class and Feat Selection
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    Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
    1 · · Rogue(1)· · · · ·Standard: Single Weapon Fighting
    2 · · Barbarian(1)· · ·
    3 · · Barbarian(2)· · ·Standard: Power Attack
    4 · · Barbarian(3)· · ·Strength: +1 Level up
    5 · · Barbarian(4)· · ·
    6 · · Barbarian(5)· · ·Standard: Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    7 · · Bard(1) · · · · ·
    8 · · Bard(2) · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
    9 · · Bard(3) · · · · ·Standard: Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    10· · Rogue(2)· · · · ·
    11· · Rogue(3)· · · · ·
    12· · Rogue(4)· · · · ·Standard: Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
    13· · Rogue(5)· · · · ·
    14· · Rogue(6)· · · · ·
    15· · Rogue(7)· · · · ·Standard: Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    16· · Rogue(8)· · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
    17· · Rogue(9)· · · · ·
    18· · Rogue(10) · · · ·Standard: Improved Feint
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Improved Evasion
    19· · Rogue(11) · · · ·
    20· · Rogue(12) · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
    21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·
    23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
    24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Bulwark of Defense
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
    25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·
    26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Power Critical
    28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
    29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Holy Strike
    30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Improved Sneak Attack
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of Arborea

    Enhancements: 80 APs
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    Shadar-Kai - Points spent: 18
    1 Core ·(1) Grit
    2 Tier1 (1) Vicious Chain
    3 Core ·(2) Ability I: Intelligence
    4 Core ·(2) Shadow Phase
    5 Core ·(2) Shadow Jaunt
    6 Core ·(2) Empowered Jaunt
    7 Tier3 (1) Ghastly Chain
    8 Tier3 (2) Displacement
    9 Tier2 (1) Guile I
    10 Tier3 (1) Guile II
    11 Tier4 (2) Greater Spiked Chain Attack
    12 Tier1 (1) Bold
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    Assassin - Points spent: 23
    1 Core ·(1) Knife in the Darkness
    2 Tier1 (2) Sneak Attack Training I
    3 Tier1 (2) Poison Strikes I: Heartseeker Poison
    4 Tier2 (2) Sneak Attack Training II
    5 Tier2 (1) Action Boost: Power
    6 Tier2 (1) Action Boost: Power
    7 Tier2 (1) Action Boost: Power
    8 Core ·(1) Dagger in the Back
    9 Core ·(1) Assassin's Trick
    10 Tier3 (2) Sneak Attack Training III
    11 Tier3 (2) Ability I: +1 Intelligence
    12 Tier3 (1) Critical Mastery
    13 Tier3 (1) Critical Mastery
    14 Tier3 (1) Critical Mastery
    15 Tier1 (1) Stealthy
    16 Core ·(1) Nimbleness
    17 Tier4 (2) Sneak Attack Training IV
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    Swashbuckler - Points spent: 6
    1 Core ·(1) Confidence
    2 Tier1 (1) On Your Toes
    3 Tier1 (1) On Your Toes
    4 Tier1 (1) On Your Toes
    5 Tier1 (1) Tavern Shanties
    6 Core ·(1) Swashbuckling
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    Frenzied Berserker - Points spent: 33
    1 Core ·(1) Die Hard
    2 Tier1 (1) Cracking Attack
    3 Tier1 (1) Cracking Attack
    4 Tier1 (1) Cracking Attack
    5 Tier1 (1) Extra Rage
    6 Tier2 (1) Body Blow
    7 Tier2 (1) Body Blow
    8 Tier2 (1) Body Blow
    9 Tier2 (1) Extra Action Boost
    10 Tier2 (1) Extra Action Boost
    11 Tier2 (1) Extra Action Boost
    12 Tier2 (1) Sprint Boost
    13 Tier3 (2) Constitution I
    14 Core ·(1) Frenzied Toughness I
    15 Tier1 (1) Extra Rage
    16 Tier1 (1) Extra Rage
    17 Tier2 (1) Blood Tribute
    18 Tier2 (1) Blood Tribute
    19 Tier2 (1) Blood Tribute
    20 Tier4 (1) Crazy Strike
    21 Tier4 (1) Crazy Strike
    22 Tier4 (1) Crazy Strike
    23 Tier4 (2) Constitution II
    24 Tier4 (1) Exhausting Blow
    25 Tier4 (1) Exhausting Blow
    26 Tier4 (1) Exhausting Blow
    27 Tier1 (1) Die Harder
    28 Tier1 (1) Die Harder
    29 Tier5 (1) Focused Wrath
    30 Tier5 (1) Focused Wrath
    31 Tier5 (1) Healing or Hurt: Raging Blows
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    Active Destiny Tree
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    Fatesinger - Points spent: 24
    1 Core ·(0)· Repertoire
    2 Core ·(0) Glitter of Fame
    3 Core ·(0) Harmonic Resonance
    4 Core ·(0) Intoxicating Presence
    5 Core ·(0) Grandeur
    6 Core ·(0) Majesty
    7 Tier1 (1) First Harmonic Chord
    8 Tier1 (1) First Harmonic Chord
    9 Tier1 (1) First Harmonic Chord
    10 Tier1 (2) Ability I: +1 Strength
    11 Tier2 (1) Second Harmonic Chord
    12 Tier2 (1) Second Harmonic Chord
    13 Tier2 (1) Second Harmonic Chord
    14 Tier2 (2)· Ability II: +1 Strength
    15 Tier3 (2) Ability III: +1 Strength
    16 Tier4 (2) Martial Hymn
    17 Tier3 (1) Third Harmonic Chord
    18 Tier3 (1) Third Harmonic Chord
    19 Tier4 (1) Fourth Harmonic Chord
    20 Tier4 (1) Fourth Harmonic Chord
    21 Tier4 (1) Fourth Harmonic Chord
    22 Tier5 (1) Bladesong
    23 Tier6 (1) Turn of the Tide
    24 Tier4 (2) Ability IV: +1 Strength
    25 Tier3 (1) Aria
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    Twists of fate - 15 of 26 Fate points spent.
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    Twist 1 - Tier 4: Twist slot empty
    Twist 2 - Tier 1: Grandmaster of Flowers: A Dance of Flowers
    Twist 3 - Tier 1: Twist slot empty
    Twist 4 - Tier 0: Twist slot empty


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    Do the new-n-improved SDK chain attacks doublestrike? If so: 5 more APs into Swashbuckler gets you Dashing Scoundrel for +10% Doublestrike. Drop Weapon Focus, move Improved Feint to level 6, take Offhand Versatility at level 18. Alternatively take Skirmisher + Shield Mastery feats for extra Dodge and higher Doublestrike in epics with Legendary Shield Mastery.

    Overwhelming Critical at 21, Improved Sneak Attack at 24. Bulwark of Defense does nothing for this build because you don't have a defensive stance. I usually take Epic DR at 27 on my melees.
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    well I am playing this on my swashbuckler.

    actually I went for 11/6/3... because I don't have 21 dex for Improved Sneak Attack epic feat. So I grabbed FB 3rd core instead.
    I chose INT as my primary stat. I don't have Horizon Walker yet.

    AP: 32 FB (I never rage so I did not take that option), 13 swash (empty hand and Int to damage), 17 race, 7 harper KtA, rest (around 16) in Vistani for Haste boost and other stuff.

    Power Attack is not so great on a swashbuckler, consider Precision instead. You need to beat fortification if you want to do damage with those tasty crits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post
    Power Attack is not so great on a swashbuckler, consider Precision instead. You need to beat fortification if you want to do damage with those tasty crits.
    OP built for barbarian Rage - or so I infer since they took Extra Rage enhancements - which doesn't work with Precision. Whether they're better off building for Precision + no Rage: well, I'll let the DPS gurus hash that one out.
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    Will come back to this thread later.
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    here are my thoughts on gear...only problem i couldn't fit in a minor artifact, much less a perfect minor artifact. suggestions are welcome. i made some assumptions that the Sands legendary sets will be better than the epic Sands set.

    STR based dps rogue 12/barb 5/bard 3

    Weapon - Magmatic Reaver (Armor piercing)
    Armor - Mist-Laden Vestments (Silent Avenger set, Well Rounded, etc.)
    Belt - Legendary Braided Cutcord (Silent Avenger set, blurry)
    Boots - Legendary Dustless Boots (Ins. Deception, Legendary windlasher's Ferocity)
    Bracers - Legendary Lore-Fueled Pack Banner (Ins.Constitution, Ins. Dblstrike)
    Cloak - Legendary Shadowhall Cloak (Deception, Silent Avenger Set)
    Gloves - Legendary Hammerfist (Ins. Dblstrike, Cannith INfusion, Seeker, Ins. Deadly)
    Goggles - Legendary Collective Sight (Intelligence (or whatever trance you use), Ins. Strength)
    Helm - Titania's Glory (lots of goodies melee power etc.)
    Necklace - Legendary Grim's Bracelet (Strength, Dodge, Doublestrike, Accuracy)
    Ring - Legendary Ring of Power (Qual Strength, Melee Alac, Ins. Armor Piercing)
    Ring2 - Legendary Ring of Prowess (Melee power, Deadly)
    Trinket - Legendary gem of many facets (Legendary Windlasher's Ferocity)

    so Silent Avenger gives Artifact bonuses to Doublestrike, Sneak attack, armor piercing, damage v. helpless.
    Windlasher's ferocity gives artifact bonus to Doublestrike (doesn't stack) and melee power.

    i'm missing quality doublestrike but i think i hit most of the boxes. anywhere i could make some substitutrions and fit in a (perfect) minor artifact?
    Last edited by painkiller3; 09-03-2021 at 09:26 AM.

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