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    Default First life Rogue, now with CHAAAAAIIIINNZZZZ

    Hello and good morning. I am Strimtom, and today I bring you the new and improved Shadarkai. Shadarkai has been a silly jkoew for a long time given that it used to do almost nothing with it's cool chain attacks. Now, the Shadarkai remains a force to be reckoned with given that the new chain attack is both free and powerful. I decided to start over on a new character and begin anew, so why not start with a tried and true classic like the shadarkai. I have a history with chain builds, and if you'd like to see that check this video for that history.

    Anyway, the build!



    This was a dream to play as a first life character, doing amazing AOE damage while being single target. The chains revival was a success, and I think you'll be seeing quite a few SDK hanging around for a long time as it's now a major consideration for any rogue build.

    ChAAAAIINNNZZZZ
    Rogue 20
    True Neutral Shadar-kai


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .32pt . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . .8. . . .4: DEX
    Dexterity . . . 20. . . .8: DEX
    Constitution. . 16. . . 12: DEX
    Intelligence. . 14. . . 16: DEX
    Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . 20: DEX
    Charisma. . . . .6. . . 24: DEX
    . . . . . . . . . . . . 28: DEX


    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Disable . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Open Lo . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Search. . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Spot. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Bluff . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Balance . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Jump. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Hide. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Move Si . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    UMD . . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .40 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Single Weapon Fighting
    .3. . . . : Improved Feint
    .6. . . . : Precision
    .9. . . . : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    12. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
    15. . . . : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    18. . . . : Offhand Versatility
    21 Epic . : Improved Sneak Attack
    24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    26 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction
    28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic . : Epic Reflexes
    30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane

    10 Rogue. : Opportunist
    13 Rogue. : Improved Evasion
    16 Rogue. : Slippery Mind
    19 Rogue. : Skill Mastery


    Enhancements (Spent: 80 +0r +0u / Max: 80 +0r +0u AP)

    Assassin (43 AP)
    • Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick, Nimbleness, Lethality, Deadly Shadow
      1. Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Shiv I, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
      2. Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
      3. Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
      4. Killer III, Weakening Strikes, Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
      5. Assassinate, Measure the Foe III, Deadly Strikes, Knife Specialization, Light Armor Mastery III

    Shadar-kai (20 AP)
    • Shadar-kai Grit, Dexterity
      1. Keen Senses III
      2. Forceful Chain, Ghostly Essence III, Guile
      3. Ghastly Chain, Displacement, Improved Ghostly Essence I, Guile
      4. Greater Spiked Chain Attack, Nothing Is Hidden III

    Horizon Walker (14 AP)
    • Mark Target, Improved Marking, Greater Marking
      1. Eye for Accuracy III, Planar Dodge II
      2. Skilled Navigator III
      3. No Step Missed III

    Thief-Acrobat (3 AP)
    • Staff Control
      1. Fast Movement

    Leveling Guide
    • Assassin: Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick
      1. Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Shiv I, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
      2. Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost II
      3. Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
    • Shadar-kai: Shadar-kai Grit, Dexterity
      1. Keen Senses III
      2. Forceful Chain, Ghostly Essence III, Guile
      3. Ghastly Chain, Displacement, Improved Ghostly Essence I, Guile
      4. Greater Spiked Chain Attack, Nothing Is Hidden III
    • Horizon Walker: Mark Target, Improved Marking, Greater Marking
      1. Eye for Accuracy III, Planar Dodge II
      2. Skilled Navigator III
      3. No Step Missed III
    • Thief-Acrobat: Staff Control
      1. Fast Movement
    15. Ass2 Damage Boost III; Ass0 Nimbleness; Ass4 Sneak Attack Training
    16. Ass4 Weakening Strikes; Ass4 Killer I, II
    17. Ass4 Killer III; Ass4 Dexterity; Ass5 Assassinate
    18. Ass0 Lethality; Ass5 Measure the Foe I, II, III
    19. Ass5 Knife Specialization; Ass5 Deadly Strikes
    20. Ass5 Light Armor Mastery I; Ass0 Deadly Shadow; Ass5 Light Armor Mastery II, III


    Destiny (24 AP) (Errors)

    Shadowdancer
    1. Stealthy III, Technician III, Dexterity
    2. Lithe I, Skill Mastery
    3. Meld into Darkness III, Grim Precision III
    4. (none)
    5. Untouchable, Executioner's Strike I, Sealed Soul
    6. Shadow Form, Dark Imbuement

    Twists of Fate (19 fate points)
    1. Martial Hymn (Tier 4 Fatesinger)
    2. Extra Action Boost (Tier 1 Dreadnought)
    3. Legendary Tactics (Tier 1 Dreadnought)
    4. Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)


    If you enjoyed the video, both original chainz and new chainz, I am selling some chainz shirts which you can find here, should that be something you want.
    All my builds in one place!
    Personal stream http://www.twitch.tv/strimtom and I stream my show every day. Check my Discord to find the schedule.

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    A first life toon won't have access to those Epic Destiny feats.
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    Not sure if I'm missing something? Greater Marking doesn't seem to be on the class? It says Haste SLA instead?

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    Aww yeahhh kukris - when was the last time we had a decent build excuse to use them? Not to mention SWF Assassin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Aww yeahhh kukris - when was the last time we had a decent build excuse to use them? Not to mention SWF Assassin.
    Legendary Midnight Greetings, will hopefully be a thing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    A first life toon won't have access to those Epic Destiny feats.

    I actually am a first life toon, and my twists are 4,3,1,1
    and Have Mass Frog(which is going away as a Feat) and Dire Charge(again going away also).

    I have a different setup for gear and Enhancements. As a First lifers though unpopular, I run R10's also. (That was by design so to show it can be done successfully) I do have another toon that's Shadar-kai that I will TR though to get Warlock past life feat and bump up other useful feats along the way.
    Though I don't know if this guys Chainzz build is upper Reaper level viable, but it is interesting as I am glad they made the changes to not have Shadar-kai the joke of a build that it use to be, which was such a disservice and disgrace and the tipping point of when ddo started to show they don't really play the game in real time seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    A first life toon won't have access to those Epic Destiny feats.
    Yes they do. I have a first life character and am able to access them with no problem.

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    Hey boss, I don't have the new expansion so I'll wing those 14 points into something.

    Thank you for your theory crafting and application.
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    Default SWF to TWF

    What sort of change ups feat-wise would be beneficial if someone were to take this from SWF to TWF, dual daggers? No changes to the trees for Vistani or anything, just heroic/epic feats along the way. As I noticed there is TWF added in the epic levels? Is it just better to leave it off until then, or could someone benefit from it earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vletts View Post
    What sort of change ups feat-wise would be beneficial if someone were to take this from SWF to TWF, dual daggers?
    It's a straight feat swap, however remember the whole point of this build (apart from novelty) is trading single-target DPS for better AoE damage from SDK chains. So the big incentive to SWF for this build is the higher base damage modifier (2x with full SWF + Offhand Versatility vs 1x for TWF). Basically you're going back to a typical TWF Assassin build but with heavy racial investment. APs are reaaally tight if you don't have extra racial APs: 41 Assassin (capstone) + 17 SDK (Greater Chain Attack) + 23 VKF (Double Daggers + Celerity) = 81 APs leaving no room for a Battle Trance (Know the Angles or No Step Missed) unless you drop VKF down to 11 APs or so.
    As I noticed there is TWF added in the epic levels?
    Perfect TWF used to grant an universal +5% Doublestrike bonus; however that's no longer the case so you should take Epic Doublestrike instead.
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