U50 Comprehensive Assassin Guide

[Carpone]

Complete write up is available in Google Docs because it is too long for the forum software to handle. It includes two gear sets (Assassinate vs Boss Max DPS), frequently asked questions, and a breakdown of all important stats.

[Arkat]

Ying,

Could you please post a screenshot of the stats of the Legendary Goldcursed Dagger as well as a screenshot of what it looks like when it's held in your toon's hand?

I'd like to update the Wiki with those.

Thanks.

[HuneyMunster]

How well does your Assassinate and Dire Charge DC's stand up now post changes? My Assassin is currently a Vistani FvS Monk went from 95% chance of stunning Beetles in R1 Dryad to 5%. Before U50 I had about 50% chance to Assassinate Beetles, but I don't think it's possible anymore until the get changes to their Fort saves.

I was thinking about doing Shadai-kai instead of Halfling for Jaunt. I usually run Halfling so would lose 3 MDB and 1 SA dice. Problem is I've not tested if Jaunt puts Dire Charge on cooldown. I know FvS wings puts Dire Charge on 3 second cooldown. Similarly when testing Acrobat on a bank character If I use the 1 minute cooldown version of Jaunt it put Vault on 1 min cooldown even thought Vaunt has 15 second cooldown. Ironically my Clerics Feral Charge didn't effect Exalted Angel Wings cooldown. I don't want to waste having to TR if Jaunt scuffs Dire Charge usage.

[Carpone]

127 Dire Charge DC in Reaper without Yugo pots, remnant pots or Ancient Tactics works just fine.

Assassinate isn't no-fail but with all things considered it's slightly higher than pre-U50. That's due to the Rogue meta switching from INT to DEX based, and the addition of Shadowstrike 2pc.

The daggers provide plenty of crowd control. It's so fun to see a target turn to gold. By far it's my favorite Saltmarsh item.

[lillentle]

How does this build compare to your ranged build? What's your favorite

[Hafeal]

Thanks, Carpone.

Just TR'd by Rogue. He is not completionist but I was planning something similar ... now you have a great blueprint for me - thank you!

[Carpone]

How does this build compare to your ranged build? What's your favorite

That's like asking me which child I love more. I play them equally. My rogue has 163 reaper points, and my ranged just hit 164.

[Avocado]

Complete write up is available in Google Docs because it is too long for the forum software to handle. It includes two gear sets (Assassinate vs Boss Max DPS), frequently asked questions, and a breakdown of all important stats.

I run this same gear setup but opted for the belt of sure strikes. Which has more effects that are beneficial to melee over the direwolf belt. Also where is you generic armor pierce slotted? I dont see it. I put it on my slavers chains.

[Carpone]

I run this same gear setup but opted for the belt of sure strikes. Which has more effects that are beneficial to melee over the direwolf belt. Also where is you generic armor pierce slotted? I dont see it. I put it on my slavers chains.

Thank you for the in-depth examination of the gear setup.

Not utilizing Belt of Sure Strikes is definitely an oversight. It's now incorporated in both gear setups, since Insightful Seeker +6 was the primary reason Direwolf Belt was slotted. That allows Armor-Piercing on the Slaver boots so you have it full time, instead of just for boss DPS as in the previous setup.

I also fixed an error where I had two augments in the Gem of Many Facets (it only has one slot), and had a wrong aug color in the Raven's Sight. I suspect the Gem will get updated in the future to have parity with other ML30 items, but better to have it correct in the guide today.

[Saekee]

applause! Nice work. I haven't dared an endgame assassin since I can't raid much and my playtime is often just short spurts, so good to see an expert and their best

[HuneyMunster]

127 Dire Charge DC in Reaper without Yugo pots, remnant pots or Ancient Tactics works just fine.

Assassinate isn't no-fail but with all things considered it's slightly higher than pre-U50. That's due to the Rogue meta switching from INT to DEX based, and the addition of Shadowstrike 2pc.

The daggers provide plenty of crowd control. It's so fun to see a target turn to gold. By far it's my favorite Saltmarsh item.

I checked how much Assassinate DC I would lose post U50 and it seem to be -14 that excludes the new +2 Assassinate filigree set. In epic and legendary content monsters got -6 to saves and additional -10 in Sharn and later quests. So overall it seems like my Assassin will benefit a little from the changes in the later content.

[imorax]

Complete write up is available in Google Docs because it is too long for the forum software to handle. It includes two gear sets (Assassinate vs Boss Max DPS), frequently asked questions, and a breakdown of all important stats.

Awsome guide! love it. Could you tell us what quest that golden dagger drops? no info out on where to get it yet, looks like a fun little dagger.

[imorax]

Nm, Dagger drops in Back to Basics.
Btw I think you forgot +2 Festive dex and I dont think you need iron blows since you get good from Titanyas Glory?
Also a suggestion, going shadarkai might be ideal after the new racial tree adjustments. The two chain attacks is hillariously strong and works very well with the Golden dagger.

[PrinceOfAsphodel]

Wow, Goldcursed Dagger and LGS Salt really beat out Pain and Suffering? Do you use them because the debuffs and CC are more important or are they actually better DPS? Thanks for the awesome write up, by the way. I appreciate you making top level information super clear

[Carpone]

Btw I think you forgot +2 Festive dex

Good catch. I've reworked the gear into a single unified set which includes Festive DEX. Requiring a 4th Perfect Silence aug switching back and forth from Assassinate to DPS setup just felt bad. Also, it's much easier to maintain 100 MRR with the Mantle of Suulomades set if you don't have the Warlock/Gnome past lives.

I dont think you need iron blows since you get good from Titanyas Glory?

Iron Blows is Cold Iron DR. Titania's Glory provides Good DR.

Also a suggestion, going shadarkai might be ideal after the new racial tree adjustments. The two chain attacks is hillariously strong and works very well with the Golden dagger.

Neato. Dire Charge provide a similar benefit though. Definitely worth utilizing if you need a Shadar Kai past life.

Wow, Goldcursed Dagger and LGS Salt really beat out Pain and Suffering? Do you use them because the debuffs and CC are more important or are they actually better DPS? Thanks for the awesome write up, by the way. I appreciate you making top level information super clear

Goldcursed + LGS Salt is purely for trash mob crowd control. I switch to Pain and Suffering for bosses/Dooms.

[PrinceOfAsphodel]

Goldcursed + LGS Salt is purely for trash mob crowd control. I switch to Pain and Suffering for bosses/Dooms.

Oh gotcha. That definitely makes a lot of sense.

[PrinceOfAsphodel]

Oh might I suggest you add the Int vs Dex breakdown on your guide's FAQ section? I'm really interested in hearing why one stat wins out over the other and by how much. I'm sure others will find it helpful as well.

[Carpone]

Oh might I suggest you add the Int vs Dex breakdown on your guide's FAQ section? I'm really interested in hearing why one stat wins out over the other and by how much. I'm sure others will find it helpful as well.

INT isn't used for anything other than skill points and boosting Search + Disable. Swapping to a tier 1+2 LGS INT skills item is sufficient.

Pre-U50, Rogues were INT based because there was no DEX-based trance. Know the Angles provided the highest damage. Now that No Step Missed is available, the meta swung back to DEX as you're netting +4 DEX from Halfling over the INT version, plus an additional +2 DEX from the Yugo pot. While INT Yugo pots are available, they didn't get used most of the time due to the -50% fortification drawback.

[STDGames]

Whats your view on SWF and Keeper of the Crimson Covenant?
Offhand attacks from TWF trumps Offhand Versality?

If my math doesn't suck (and it prob does)
113 DEX with Offhand Versality is 28 extra damage you are missing.

[Carpone]

SWF is 3.3% behind TWF, not including the loss of Ooze.

Edit: Originally forgot to include the 20 MP from VKF T4 Single Dagger enhancement.