Half my friends left the game. How devs are making my group feel.

[TheAlicornSage]

hey i want to play too with this "i know reality and i declare your opinion wrong cause it's your perception, you are just seeing things you mere player" game you are playing. seems like fun!

Sorry flatearther, but the world is round.

Logic (and thus science) is about truth, not comfort. Those who seek comfort will cling to comfortable lies. Those who seek truth will accept discomfort to find it. You can not make a good design for anything by ignoring reality for what's comfortable.

[Valerianus]

Sorry flatearther, but the world is round.

Logic (and thus science) is about truth, not comfort. Those who seek comfort will cling to comfortable lies. Those who seek truth will accept discomfort to find it. You can not make a good design for anything by ignoring reality for what's comfortable.

oooh flatearther, funny!

exactly what i was referring to. your idea of "good balance at least", it's comfort, not truth.

but i'm just playing, sure it's clear from my tone, don't want to fight, but yeah, just saying that the one seeking comfort, in my perception, that you'll declare faulty because it's not yours, the one seeking comfort is you

[TheAlicornSage]

oooh flatearther, funny!

exactly what i was referring to. your idea of "good balance at least", it's comfort, not truth.

but i'm just playing, sure it's clear from my tone, don't want to fight, but yeah, just saying that the one seeking comfort, in my perception, that you'll declare faulty because it's not yours, the one seeking comfort is you

And yet, nothing you said about mechanics negates what I said. Of course, I was speaking in broad general terms, not specifics.

[Pandjed]

Hello everyone. I've read through this thread, and it feels a bit heated and not very productive. I make the suggestion that you re-read some of your posts and ask yourself if that's how you want to represent yourself out to the world.


Well, let's try to focus on the topic, which is a bit strange to see this in the Suggestion&Ideas forum, as I don't read neither a suggestion nor an idea here (though it also doesn't seem to fit another forum of this category). Aside of the PS-part, which doesn't strike me much as a suggestion and more as a sermon, and the general offensive and borderline insulting words of choice even made me feel rather negative toward the OP when I first read them, just as a reaction. I don't believe that this is very constructive feedback, and I lean to think that you wrote it while being upset, which often doesn't make the best state of mind to write posts like these.
If I were to read it as someone who has to do work with it, I'd probably just dismiss it.


Let me ask you some questions:

1.) Is it bad, to try to correct past mistakes or bad decisions, that became apparent after a while? Especially those born of times, when you had basically only bad options and had to decide for one anyway?

2.) How realistic is it to get every single bit right, when the thing you're working with has so many variables, options, and other hard to foresee things, if you are on a time-limit?

3.) Do you prefer a dev team, that more or less don't care about the future of the game and just go on, without re-evaluating anything ever, until the game just gets abandoned, because it becomes too much work to handle reasonably?


It's not like I agree to everything, the devs are doing and deciding. Usually, I have something to disagree about with every update, and I sometimes don't get their priorities. What I do get is, that they have an interest to keep this game running, and that it'd be much easier for them to abandon it and go on with other projects at this point. This is a 15 years old game, which never was a leader in the MMPORPG market, is obviously outdated, finding people even able to work with these tools nowadays becomes increasingly harder, and while it makes profits, that doesn't mean that it's an easy job. We still have a dev team that stayed surprisingly stable over the last years, even though the original creators jumped ships long ago.

The thing is: SSG owns the game. They can do with it, whatever they want and there is a lot you can play without paying, many things you get easier by paying, and only few things you need to play at highest level that are hidden behind a monetary barrier. Guess what, U50 got rid of it also, as now you can get endgame worthy items by playing packs that are buyable by points. Now with Sharn and Feywild not domineering anymore, there are a lot of adventure packs that now can replace those items.

I expected a large shift in endgame with U50, because DDO is just that diverse, and all of the monsters were more or less handmade. So it's just unrealistic to expect a flawless update, some things got easier, some harder, but at some point it's better to bring the project out and make corrections wherever problems occur. U51 will probably be another big shift. This is a living game.


If you feel betrayed, if you feel lied to, then ask yourself why you still play the game and if it's compelling enough, concentrate on that. If you don't find anything... seriously, it's a game. If you don't have fun, don't play it.

I still have fun, and I'm excited to fiddle around with the new balance. I'm puzzled sometimes, because I read of things that supposedly don't work, even though they work for me, even though I don't even do much with filigrees, because I switch builds with every TR and therefore there is little benefit to dive deep in that system. I hit all mass holds fine, now even at level 24 in legendary content, for example, because of the stat squish.


Now I need some smart words to end with... Brickenblexn. ... ... Cool! *_*