LGS/u48 Augments

[Verlok_the_Red]

so now that u50 has gone live.. and lgs and u48 augments have been totally trashed ..

what does ssg propose to do to help/refund the people that spent literally thousands of hours crafting 3 and 5 piece lgs sets and 9/12 piece raid augments from u48 .. I mean they are not even on par with some of the other raid loot changes..

or should we just not bother spending hundreds/thousands crafting?

kind of upsetting. especially when u50 literally destroyed the game..

[Hawkwier]

so now that u50 has gone live.. and lgs and u48 augments have been totally trashed ..

what does ssg propose to do to help/refund the people that spent literally thousands of hours crafting 3 and 5 piece lgs sets and 9/12 piece raid augments from u48 .. I mean they are not even on par with some of the other raid loot changes..

or should we just not bother spending hundreds/thousands crafting?

kind of upsetting. especially when u50 literally destroyed the game..

Sorry, I've missed something here - what has happened to the U48 augments?

[Verlok_the_Red]

before they were the same as a l29 set bonus.. but level 30 ml.

+4 cha
+50 spell power
+4 dc

etc.

after
instead of 50 spell power its 15
instead of +4 its +3

these are level 30 augments that require 3 named drops from multiple raids ... and 3 augment slots for each effect.

so if you wanted +4 cha +50 sp and +4 dc you need 12 augments/augment slots

the idea was exposed to be you could craft a 12 piece set and apply the augments to them to make your own set bonus.. considering the work required to accomplish that .. vs just getting a sharn set .. completely nullifies the entire premise of "fixing crafting"

aka , they didn’t fix anything.. they made it substantially worse to invest all the effort in getting 12 raid drops

[mikarddo]

The change both the raid augments (+4 dc prior etc) and to LGS does seem too much.

I enjoyed using the 4 piece hp/crit mult LGS set from level 26 I used a very long time farming. Now it seems pointless to even keep in the bank.

I farmed a +4 dc set to supplement the +3 dc I get from the Flamecleanset set bonus. Now those 3 augments are wasted.

That is quite annoying and makes me less interested in new long farms leading pug raids week after week on G-land, and thus ultimately less interested in playing the game.

[Hawkwier]

before they were the same as a l29 set bonus.. but level 30 ml.

+4 cha
+50 spell power
+4 dc

etc.

after
instead of 50 spell power its 15
instead of +4 its +3

these are level 30 augments that require 3 named drops from multiple raids ... and 3 augment slots for each effect.

so if you wanted +4 cha +50 sp and +4 dc you need 12 augments/augment slots

the idea was exposed to be you could craft a 12 piece set and apply the augments to them to make your own set bonus.. considering the work required to accomplish that .. vs just getting a sharn set .. completely nullifies the entire premise of "fixing crafting"

aka , they didn’t fix anything.. they made it substantially worse to invest all the effort in getting 12 raid drops

Ah, thanks for confirming. Yeah, given the effort involved to create the 3-piece sets, and the augment space required, that sucks. Doesn't affect me directly as I didn't buy into the opportunity cost involved (though was working on a 3-piece Int set for swapping on KTA trance purposes), but I can see why folks would be angry at that particular squish.

Might be something the Devs may want to take a second look at as an anomaly. There have been a few of those I reckon...

[kpak01]

before they were the same as a l29 set bonus

And after, they still are. The +4 Cha or +4 DC you could get from either a set or the set augments before, both went down to +3 now. They're still the same.

these are level 30 augments that require 3 named drops from multiple raids ... and 3 augment slots for each effect.

Yeah. So, personally I think the set augments were always a bad deal, but their deal compared to the actual item sets got no worse with U50.

So, I totally get "set augments suck", but I don't understand why you'd call out U50 as making set augments suck more now. They only suck equally as much as they always did as a bad alternative to wearing item sets.

[mikarddo]

And after, they still are. The +4 Cha or +4 DC you could get from either a set or the set augments before, both went down to +3 now. They're still the same.



Yeah. So, personally I think the set augments were always a bad deal, but their deal compared to the actual item sets got no worse with U50.

So, I totally get "set augments suck", but I don't understand why you'd call out U50 as making set augments suck more now. They only suck equally as much as they always did as a bad alternative to wearing item sets.

Not quite. I am using Flamecleased which was and still is +3dc. I made the +4dc augment set for the extra +1dc - but that set is now +3dc and thus add nothing to my gear setup.

[WarDestroyer]

IIRC Lynn said that the 15 spell power set will be bumped to 25 in a future patch, which should be aligned with other universal spell power sets.

[Seph1roth5]

I thought all that raid augment stuff was far too much work when it came out lol. To have that much work for the new numbers, when everything's been rejiggered and they added a ton more lv 30 options seems like a kick in the teeth.

If raid items were supposed to be slightly better than normal items of the same level, then this multiple raid item augment stuff should be a level above THAT.

[kpak01]

I am using Flamecleased which was and still is +3dc. I made the +4dc augment set for the extra +1dc - but that set is now +3dc and thus add nothing to my gear setup.

So you were wearing an inferior set before, when you could have previously been using any of the sets that already gave +4 DC.

The point is, those set augments are still the highest possible value for the stat they are providing. They were before U50 and still are after U50.

3 raid items and 3 augment slots sucks, but it already sucked before U50.

[mikarddo]

So you were wearing an inferior set before, when you could have previously been using any of the sets that already gave +4 DC.

The point is, those set augments are still the highest possible value for the stat they are providing. They were before U50 and still are after U50.

3 raid items and 3 augment slots sucks, but it already sucked before U50.

Such arrogance based on narrow-minded ignorance.

[Marshal_Lannes]

...especially when u50 literally destroyed the game..

I often feel like more people should look up what literally means.

[Caarb]

I often feel like more people should look up what literally means.

Pot Kettle Black

The meaning of the word literally has been updated to cover the common (previously incorrect) usage:

informal
used to emphasize what you are saying:
He missed that kick literally by miles.
I was literally bowled over by the news.

[Hawkwier]

https://youtu.be/8qSkaAwKMD4

You're welcome.