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    Default Saltmarsh details from today's live stream.

    I'd recommend watching today's Cord livesteam ( https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1100769603 ), but for those who missed it and don't want to watch it, here's some highlights about Saltmarsh mini-expansion. VIPs also get 10% off the cost of it.




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    Spark of Logic is a saga reward. 33% chance on True Elite.

    Horizon Walker can be unlocked with 400 Gatekeeper favor.

    Lizardfolk mount is cool. Horses are boring.
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    Yeah, that lizardfolk mount looks really nice.

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    I typically don't comment on the prices, but $100 for what you get in the Ultimate Fan Bundle is unreasonably over priced. Not to mention, as a VIP I already get the Monster Manual AND have Epic Destinies. So, just the Standard I'd pay $20 for 10 quests when I would normally get a pack for free anyway? Aggravating and disappointing.
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    is the Dimensional Hireling bag one per account or character?

    if per account then Boo, Boo. Most the hirelings are BTC and I have at least 3 toons I play regular, several more that are playable.

    if per character then awesome! It sucks that all the hireling folders from the store are btc, cause all I can do with smaller ones is throw them away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epicsoul View Post
    I typically don't comment on the prices, but $100 for what you get in the Ultimate Fan Bundle is unreasonably over priced. Not to mention, as a VIP I already get the Monster Manual AND have Epic Destinies. So, just the Standard I'd pay $20 for 10 quests when I would normally get a pack for free anyway? Aggravating and disappointing.
    A non-free-to-VIP pack which locks the ability to upgrade free-to-VIP pack items to legendary, yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolo_Grubb View Post
    is the Dimensional Hireling bag one per account or character?

    if per account then Boo, Boo. Most the hirelings are BTC and I have at least 3 toons I play regular, several more that are playable.

    if per character then awesome! It sucks that all the hireling folders from the store are btc, cause all I can do with smaller ones is throw them away.
    I think it's just one per account. I'd personally rather one per character of a smaller folder (that's big enough to hold all the gold seals) than a single huge folder.

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    The Standard Pack should've been free for VIPs with the option to upgrade at a discount. Otherwise, this is ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolo_Grubb View Post
    is the Dimensional Hireling bag one per account or character?

    if per account then Boo, Boo. Most the hirelings are BTC and I have at least 3 toons I play regular, several more that are playable.

    if per character then awesome! It sucks that all the hireling folders from the store are btc, cause all I can do with smaller ones is throw them away.
    I too need more information about the Dimensional Hireling Folder*. Unless ALL the gold seal expansion hirelings become BTA, a single BTA hireling folder just isn't worth it. On the other hand a hireling folder per character in perpetuity to deal with ALL the BTC expansion hirelings would be a godsend and totally worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sythe777 View Post
    A non-free-to-VIP pack which locks the ability to upgrade free-to-VIP pack items to legendary, yep.
    And also the "Soul Vessel" and the new "Vessel" thingy...that you can buy instead of chest loots... to upgrade some raid items to augments.

    I suppose VIPs also get 10% off and the 3 hours Saltmarsh Elixir of Greater Discovery per character...

    So 89.99$ for the Ultimate Fan Bundle for VIPs.

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    So tell me again, what exactly did they learn from the LotRO debacle mini-expansion pricing again.....

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    Default That pricing bloat

    After devs dropped the ball with the Feywild teleport item, I'm not interested in paying for future teleport items. Feywild should have had multiple locations to teleport to like the Sharn item (hall, hut and winter court), instead of the lazy and not-useful-to-players logic currently in place.

    Also, communication is what the listener does:

    Are those bundle items like the sentient jewel 1 per account or 1 per character? You mix and match things that are once per account with things that are once per character with abandon.

    What's the level of that rogue hireling? Can it find/disable traps in the Amrath Archon chain which have ridiculously high DCs?
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    Default Sitting this one out too

    Feywild was the first expansion that I didn't jump on. I will sit this one out too. I look at the spend I have on the game with three accounts and with the DDO Points buys, it will take a far more compelling expansion than this to get me to buy in.

    Digital doo-dads like the cosmetics offered have grown a little old to me.

    I understand the need to continue to pump revenue - this is a business after all - but I have found a sweet spot of playing the content I have and dealing with the lag as part of it.

    It irks me, like so many others, that the game keeps pushing forward with more expansions and not fixing the fundamental issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    After devs dropped the ball with the Feywild teleport item, I'm not interested in paying for future teleport items. Feywild should have had multiple locations to teleport to like the Sharn item (hall, hut and winter court), instead of the lazy and not-useful-to-players logic currently in place.

    Also, communication is what the listener does:

    Are those bundle items like the sentient jewel 1 per account or 1 per character? You mix and match things that are once per account with things that are once per character with abandon.

    What's the level of that rogue hireling? Can it find/disable traps in the Amrath Archon chain which have ridiculously high DCs?
    I feel like they dropped the ball with a lot on Feywild. The Max Slayer cap on the Legendary wilderness zone, an EXPANSION wilderness zone no less, though better than initially is still insultingly low. The epic Feywild Muse has a pathetic song, doesn't do nearly enough for his level, the aforementioned teleport item and lack of unlockable teleport points like was available in the Stormhorns. Lack of anything new for Sentient Jewels, filigree, or sparks in Feywild. They talked about Feywild being whimsical themed and then totally missed the opportunity to have a sentient jewel of the Whimsical. The saga was late in coming, the raid was super late, I am pleased with the cosmetic weapon imbue though. And Feytwisted was the most creative, imaginative, and absolute best super-secret addition to Feywild.

    I get it, they were in a rush to look very profitable for the merger/buyout whatever... but Feywild definitely suffered some for that rush.
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    This reminds me to ask:

    What is the MAX slayer cap on the heroic and legendary Saltmarsh wilderness zones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epicsoul View Post
    The Standard Pack should've been free for VIPs with the option to upgrade at a discount. Otherwise, this is ****.
    +10

    I'm not happy with this offer but SSG will unfortunately squeeze an extra $20 from me for the "sub" Standard Option. If SSG had simply cared enough to ask for feedback or created the choices intelligently- they would have gotten $100 instead.
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    Hm the 20$ for base pack is fine for me. And I really like the 100$ pack cosmetics... but that pack is just lacking too much for me to justify the price. Would have been nice if there was some convenient stuff added to it. Extra character slot, 1 month of VIP, 1 AP Tome or just throw in some DDO points.

    And 10% Discount to VIPs should be at least 20-25%...

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    Carpone, on Lamannia the Rogue Hireling named Frogo at the time had Level 3 and 30 versions.

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    [...] Other than him having a name similar to an ethnic slur I get the impression "Frogo" would be fairly popular with players that dislike playing - with - rogues.


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    I'm not sure on what DCs the Level 30 would have but I suspect its Search DCs will be in the mid 70s or even higher. Not like its Search DC matters a great deal anyway because Hirelings flat-out cheat and completely ignore (bypass) Search checks with regards to disabling trap Control panels. :-/ ...
    The 'The Archons' Trial' DCs aren't particularly high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelonwy View Post
    This reminds me to ask:

    What is the MAX slayer cap on the heroic and legendary Saltmarsh wilderness zones?
    I asked in the Lam thread. No response.

    And Feytwisted was the most creative, imaginative, and absolute best super-secret addition to Feywild.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    Spark of Logic is a saga reward. 33% chance on True Elite.

    Horizon Walker can be unlocked with 400 Gatekeeper favor.

    Lizardfolk mount is cool. Horses are boring.
    Could you elaborate on the Spark of Logic - and what "unlimited access" means? I assume its another slot for sentient weapons (I still havent filled the 3 weapons I am using yet), but what does "unlimited" mean in that context?

    Apart from the teleport item thats pretty much the only interesting part outside the basic edition.

    Everything else is just cosmetics, mounts, hirelings and another sentient jewel - none of which interest me that much. The $100 isnt really much to me but I would like to feel I am actually getting something of value.
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