Let's make HCL 5 - Hardcore

[fatherpirate]

I would love to see the next HCL

Call it the Nightmare Revels.

Simple rules

All the standard HCL stuff
one seriously challenging modification.

all public areas 'including sections of the city'
are gated by your level

so there will be a
lvl 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26+ versions of each instance
during the day ... nothing special
at twilight the NPCs run for cover and every public area
spawns undead based on the max level of that instance just
like in the night revels but in ALL public areas.

only safe area in at the inns

travel the city or outdoor areas by day, everything normal
at night? fighting hordes of undead ... that keep spawning, and spawning and spawning.

Reward for killing all the dead? You get to live.

HCL 5 Nightmare Revels

one last fun thing, if you die ... an undead your current character level spawns
and attacks your party. sharing is caring.

[Memnir]

No to level-gates, neutral on the rest.

[fatherpirate]

No to level-gates, neutral on the rest.

necessary evil

if you didn't separate the levels then high level folks could just grief spawn in town
leaving anyone not high level to be one shot-ed on arrival.

but I hear ya

the regular Halloween event does the same thing, for the same reason

[boredGamer]

Remove hirelings and house P buffs.

Then do whatever else, hordes of undead sounds great.

[Jacoby]

Remove hirelings and house P buffs.

Then do whatever else, hordes of undead sounds great.

Wow, that would be something although I generally don't use house P buffs. THe whole 20 minute duration thing drives me nuts.

[fatherpirate]

Considering when HCL 5 was going to happen (this year)
and how little is left of this year
and we have heard nothing yet ...
am guessing it will be some kinda sad quickly thrown together thing.

ah, whatever ... am still in.

[SockyMcSockerton]

I would love to see the next HCL

Call it the Nightmare Revels.

Simple rules

All the standard HCL stuff
one seriously challenging modification.

all public areas 'including sections of the city'
are gated by your level

so there will be a
lvl 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26+ versions of each instance
during the day ... nothing special
at twilight the NPCs run for cover and every public area
spawns undead based on the max level of that instance just
like in the night revels but in ALL public areas.

only safe area in at the inns

travel the city or outdoor areas by day, everything normal
at night? fighting hordes of undead ... that keep spawning, and spawning and spawning.

Reward for killing all the dead? You get to live.

HCL 5 Nightmare Revels

one last fun thing, if you die ... an undead your current character level spawns
and attacks your party. sharing is caring.

This is a neat idea, but there is a TON of combat abilities that don't work in public areas, so this will be a problem.

[RavenStormclaw]

This is a neat idea, but there is a TON of combat abilities that don't work in public areas, so this will be a problem.

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Very true but that can be over ruled. During the great Devil invasion event all spells and combat abilities were working in the very public market place. I know I was there. Such an unique and great event. So his suggestion is possible and would be interesting. I think harbor should be excluded and Korthos. Or at least Korthos.

[Seph1roth5]

No one's forcing you to use house P buffs or hirelings lol.

[Gniewomir]

Just saying, but if u wanna kill servers thats a great way to do it. There's a reason why all events are now challanges instead like old mabar/night revels (public delera with mobs). There's a reason why Cordo gave up with spawning mobs in public events during streams. I doubt anyone will play HC where you can't even move literally all the time. Now imagine same thing happening not only in one public, but in like 20 of those. Would have same impact on ability to play like just turning off servers.

[zooble]

The best way to view hardcore is to not call it hardcore, but permadeath.

Then all the cheesy/overpowered/broken stuff is whatever.

[Oxarhamar]

Just saying, but if u wanna kill servers thats a great way to do it. There's a reason why all events are now challanges instead like old mabar/night revels (public delera with mobs). There's a reason why Cordo gave up with spawning mobs in public events during streams. I doubt anyone will play HC where you can't even move literally all the time. Now imagine same thing happening not only in one public, but in like 20 of those. Would have same impact on ability to play like just turning off servers.

This

[boredGamer]

No one's forcing you to use house P buffs or hirelings lol.

No one's forcing you to not just play hardcore rules on the normal servers. But oh, it turns out it's so much better when there are rules that make us play the game together, and with challenge.

P buffs and hirelings are such a huge crutch, as is obvious from your reaction. If I said play without healer's kits, pretty sure you wouldn't have responded.

[Oxarhamar]

No one's forcing you to not just play hardcore rules on the normal servers. But oh, it turns out it's so much better when there are rules that make us play the game together, and with challenge.

P buffs and hirelings are such a huge crutch, as is obvious from your reaction. If I said play without healer's kits, pretty sure you wouldn't have responded.

Meh I went thru HC without using P buffs & hirelings aren’t really dependable enough to count on for much more than buffs if you count on them for heals that’s a gamble did not use those either it was easy enough to find a party

Best thing about HCL was it demonstrates how well it would work out to have cross server groups or mega server