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    Okay so next life thinking of using a +1 heart and making a Sun Elf to utilize mace/morning stars and specifically racial dex bonuses to use them in a tempest build that also grants me a huge 2/rest heal clicky , a deathward mass/resistance etc...so to get melee power I see I can take two shield feats...which I thought wasnt a bad idea if I am wand whipping or scroll casting to heal.
    Is that a common thing? Do THF users take shield feats for more melee power and defense when trying to heal?
    I never really used shields, can you put a wand in a weapon set?
    I think this is a pretty boss template actually...
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    The Melee Power from Shield Mastery feats isn't a static bonus like Weapon Focus feats; it only applies while you have a shield equipped. So it's not going to do your Tempest any good.

    Also the Melee Power bonuses from Combat Style feats don't stack; only the highest bonus applies. E.g., if you have Greater Shield Mastery (9 MP) and Greater THF (6 MP) on a S&B toon, you get 9 MP, not 15. If you see a S&B build with both feat chains, it's taking advantage of the added Strikethrough and damage modifier to hand-&-a-half weapons (i.e., bastard swords / dwarven axes) from THF and the added doublestrike from Shield Mastery; the +3 MP from GSM over GTHF is just a free perk.

    Yes, you can equip a shield while using a wand or scroll.

    Morninglord's Grace grants DEX to damage with Morningstars, Maces, and Hammers, but not DEX to-hit. Weapon Finesse feat or Tempest core will grant DEX to hit with light maces and light hammers. But for morningstars, heavy maces, and warhammers, I think the only way to get DEX to hit is on a monk / fighter: One with Blades (T5 Kensei) to make them ki weapons; Ninja 1 core for DEX to-hit. But honestly if you were to make a build focused on those weapons, you would want Scourge Aasimar's Destroyer of the Dead ("Clubs, Light Maces, Heavy Maces, and Morningstars you wield gain a +1 Sacred Bonus to Critical Multiplier").
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    I just seen the while wearing a shield part...bummer. Did a quick read on what gave melee power and that was at first glance an outside the box idea that never came to mind...shield up while using wands and scrolls.
    Was looking for something to add more melee power to TWF
    However being able to shield bash while holding a wand with improved shield bash to keep AC bonus is worth looking into...I mean cant really do damage with wand in hand might as well be able to block and attack during cooldown with it still in hand while keeping AC bonus. Primarily if in LD or SD to tumble through enemies when getting swarmed and trying to keep alive for that bit of extra defense..
    I need a third life for sun elf...maybe I will look into Aasimar fighter the life after...i still need a cleric 3rd life though to top off that conjuration DC....because Evards...and warlock.
    Maybe Aasimar Ranger...I just want a blunt specced Ranger because scimitars already have decent crit range and adaptation is key to survival.
    Last edited by Enderoc; 06-29-2021 at 05:18 PM.

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