The Borderlands - why so far away!

[Peter_Principle]

Have you ever noticed how much travel is required to get to the Borderlands? Why are they so far away from the Stormreach Marketplace? And the city of Sharn?

The Borderlands should definitely be given a centralized location.

[LeoLionxxx]

Why are they so far away from the Stormreach Marketplace? And the city of Sharn?

The borderlands may or may not be in a different world, akin to how EveningStar is in the Forgotten Relms. Regardless, it's certainly nowhere near the continent of Xendrix!

[Zezahk]

The Keep is in Greyhawk - though it can't be called by name in-game for legal/licensing reasons.

[JOTMON]

Have you ever noticed how much travel is required to get to the Borderlands? Why are they so far away from the Stormreach Marketplace? And the city of Sharn?

The Borderlands should definitely be given a centralized location.

border is the outer edge of something.. It wouldn't be a borderland if it was in a central location..

[PsychoBlonde]

Have you ever noticed how much travel is required to get to the Borderlands? Why are they so far away from the Stormreach Marketplace? And the city of Sharn?

The Borderlands should definitely be given a centralized location.

Why? Are they somehow "central" to the game?

They're right next door to Korthos Island, which is where the only other level 1 quests in the game are located. Why should they be near the Marketplace (level 3-6 quests mostly) or Sharn (level 15-16 quests)?

If you want to get around quickly, use teleport scrolls like everyone else.

[Torkzed]

I had not noticed because I run them at one of two times.

1) At level 3, when I am coming and going in the harbor anyway, and the gatekeepers grove is off the harbor. The grove has access to the borderlands, so it is quick.

2) At level 20-22, when I have access to teleport scrolls on all my characters, and the gatekeepers grove is a choice on the scrolls. (Thank you for adding that, devs!)

With horses, running across market and harbor is very quick. If I am in the market near the harbor entrance, I often don't bother with a teleport scroll. But on the far side of the market, I teleport.

As an aside, I have often wondered what the tolerance of the average player is. I have one guildmate that will teleport/ddoor to save running to anything over about 20 ft, haha. So even if there was a borderlands entrance in the market, there would be a chance that he would use teleport scrolls anyway if the distance inside the grove was shorter!

[fatherpirate]

Have you ever noticed how much travel is required to get to the Borderlands? Why are they so far away from the Stormreach Marketplace? And the city of Sharn?

The Borderlands should definitely be given a centralized location.

You should try LOTRO
Then you will really find out what a lot of travel is.

[rabidfox]

You should try LOTRO
Then you will really find out what a lot of travel is.

/follow /afk Make a cup a coffee while my kinmate runs across the zone... (If only DDO had a /follow command like LOTRO I could drive my guildmates insane)

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

/follow /afk Make a cup a coffee while my kinmate runs across the zone... (If only DDO had a /follow command like LOTRO I could drive my guildmates insane)

SWTOR has a certain "discovery" place to which one can only travel - if done alone - via a balloon which needs almost an hour for that. I once made spaghetti during that time for myself (at notso high heat, though).

[Peter_Principle]

You know what else bothers me about the Borderlands? That quest, Total Chaos. The whole thing is so wild and unpredictable. I feel like it should be more orderly.

Oh, and that quest with the minotaur. The layout is so confusing! It's like a maze in there.

[adamkatt]

You know what else bothers me about the Borderlands? That quest, Total Chaos. The whole thing is so wild and unpredictable. I feel like it should be more orderly.

Oh, and that quest with the minotaur. The layout is so confusing! It's like a maze in there.

The treasury is like a maze? But its tiny.... all but 2 of those quests have very small maps where unless its your first time id think getting lost isnt really possible.

[acemonkey]

The treasury is like a maze? But its tiny.... all but 2 of those quests have very small maps where unless its your first time id think getting lost isnt really possible.

You're seriously underestimating the average MMO player's ability to mess up. Also whoosh.

[Oxarhamar]

Have you ever noticed how much travel is required to get to the Borderlands? Why are they so far away from the Stormreach Marketplace? And the city of Sharn?

The Borderlands should definitely be given a centralized location.

The less loading screen the better

[KoobTheProud]

Modern MMOer's are so spoiled. It used to take half an hour to get anywhere in EQ and we loved it!

I recently setup a P99 Green account for the memories. At level 9 I made an 11 zone naked run to retrieve my corpse when I had gotten a bit frisky around some brigands. It was probably the best hour and a half I have spent in an MMO since 2004 or so. The immersion from travelling in perpetual danger of having to start *all* over again was amazing.

[Valerianus]

really nice thread!

what i'd like is to change the quest "violent delights". i mean, it's not really violent, only a bit brawly at the end, it's mostly talking and looking around gnollish stuff and omg reading stuff written by gnolls. the calligraphy must be heinous. work for hardened adventurers. i would support a quest name change, like, "Talkative Rummage". it's fine and brave as it sounds.

[Lonnbeimnech]

there is a gatekeeper in korthos that will teleport you to the borderlands. he is right next to the zone in, after the grotto

[adamkatt]

You're seriously underestimating the average MMO player's ability to mess up. Also whoosh.

How is whoosh?

[Nugaot]

How is whoosh?

They were being sarcastic. Minotaurs are known for living in mazes. Borderlands are known for being out of the way. Jokes are way funnier once you explain them.

[NemesisAlien]

Have you ever noticed how much travel is required to get to the Borderlands? Why are they so far away from the Stormreach Marketplace? And the city of Sharn?

The Borderlands should definitely be given a centralized location.

I vote airship portal in korthos, problem solved.

[Selvera]

My main issue with the boarderlands is how many loading screens it takes to get from your TR stash/airship to the first quest out there. Airship -> harbor -> Gatekeeper's -> Keep -> Boarderlands -> Quest. That's like 5 loading screens in about 1 minute of game time. But after that the quests go quick/easy and no excess load screens unless (forbid) you happen to die or want to leave to level up or something.

Jokes are way funnier once you explain them.

I always enjoy a good joke once it's pointed out to me.