Permanant hirling Elieri Thistledown got nerfed?

[NemesisAlien]

Also I just logged in it says i can only resummon her after 3mins.

I left 12hrs ago!

Wiki says she got 580hp, now she only got 82 hp. I dont think she got so much hp but 82? I dont remember she so weak.

[Matuse]

She definitely has never had 500 hp.

[J1NG]

She definitely has never had 500 hp.

Aye. Either someone was messing with others on the wiki (apparently that 580HP was in the first version of it there), or they had some crazy buffs added onto them and never included them into the fact. She's Level 3 after all, so having more than 300HP over any other Level 15 to 20 hirling would be very unusual.

J1NG

[Peter_Principle]

Without Augment Summon feat, no druid past lives and no buffs, Elieri will have 71 hitpoints.

A Scarecrow hireling will have ~ 514, a Shield Guardian will have 850ish.

[Suggestion]

... now she only got 82 hp. I dont think she got so much hp but 82? I dont remember she so weak.

82 is a lot unless you have druid past lives or other buffs.

[NemesisAlien]

How about the part where I log in and she still on timer?

Before that I logged out hours ago.

[CrackedIce]

How about the part where I log in and she still on timer?

Before that I logged out hours ago.

It's been years since I used a hire. From what I remember, the timer is only active in an instance. It pauses otherwise

[KoobTheProud]

I *think* it is a 5 minute timer in an instance. I use Ellieri and the L10 scarecrow (switchpuller) a lot and when they die I usually dismiss them immediately so they will be available later in the instance. Ellieri has always been on a timer, likely to prevent her from being a pull-to-pull stack of heal pots and mana pots.

The OP thing sounds like a bug. I don't know that I have ever summoned Ellieri in two different instances within the 5 minute limit but I have never seen a timer message on her. I've seen the timer message inside an instance on the scarecrow because he dies fairly predictably on some traps when I have him pull a switch for me.

[Maelodic]

I *think* it is a 5 minute timer in an instance. I use Ellieri and the L10 scarecrow (switchpuller) a lot and when they die I usually dismiss them immediately so they will be available later in the instance. Ellieri has always been on a timer, likely to prevent her from being a pull-to-pull stack of heal pots and mana pots.

The OP thing sounds like a bug. I don't know that I have ever summoned Ellieri in two different instances within the 5 minute limit but I have never seen a timer message on her. I've seen the timer message inside an instance on the scarecrow because he dies fairly predictably on some traps when I have him pull a switch for me.

I use Elleri to give me ~200 SP every 5 minutes. Call, divine vitality, and then immediately dismiss so the timer starts back up again.

[Xgya]

I use Elleri to give me ~200 SP every 5 minutes. Call, divine vitality, and then immediately dismiss so the timer starts back up again.

Another nice "trick" I used in Temple of Elemental Evil part 1 when I didn't know the quest any better and basically had to explore the whole area is that each time you resummon her, it's a "new" character entering the party, so if you summon her near a shrine, she can give your casters twice that amount before going back into her inventory slot.

[erethizon]

How about the part where I log in and she still on timer?

Before that I logged out hours ago.

Sounds like the timer doesn't tick down when you are logged out, just like with the Key to Eveningstar.

[C-Dog]

Also I just logged in it says i can only resummon her after 3mins.

I left 12hrs ago!

File a bug report.

Wiki says she got 580hp, now she only got 82 hp. I dont think she got so much hp but 82? I dont remember she so weak.

What the Wiki says has nothing to do with what "now she only got". This is simply an error by an early editor that never got corrected - until now. (My guess it was simply overlooked during a quick copy/paste from a hire that did, indeed, have 580 hp, but whatever, it's fixed now.)

She has a base* 71 HP, and always has had.

(* modified by Feats, Enhancements, Druid Past Lives, etc etc. e.g. she has 82 w/ Augment Summoning)