Whats the point here?

[o2t4f]

Absolutely agree. I'm currently level 10 and so far I almost died once at lvl 5 on reaper solo on the windmill quest. I have been getting by by creating own groups with level restrictions but it bugs me that the favor requirement will require you to either run quests 4 levels over or just not take levels. I honestly don't know how to fix this. Its a hot mess as its not by design but an afterthought. I would prefer it not exsisting in the first place so I can play regular server. Typing on my phone so poorly written.

You would have to choose not to take the level if quests were locked 2 levels or 0 levels over base either way. That will just make you do quests for no xp a little earlier than it currently is. If you take the level before doing everything in that range, you lock yourself out of that much favor. Your problem seems to be the 5k favor requirement. You will have to do that many quests if you want the 5k favor reward, no matter where you set the lockout.

It feels like the challenge you wanted is something like "get to 30 by doing quests at base level at minimum difficulty reaper 1." While you can do that, there is no specific reward or leaderboard for that.

To me the definition of hardcore is pretty simple: you die, your character is gone. Then they set some goals like 5k reward. How to get 5k reward easily in that case? Get to lv 30 safely then do every quest without any risks. To avoid that, they set a quest lockout. They chose 4 lvs over base. Could have been 2 or 0 over base. It would still be a whole lot of quests to do, but the 4 lvs seems to be a pretty decent amount to allow more people to have fun playing a naked character and still have an achievable goal to the majority. The thing is they didn't set a goal you liked.

I'm not sure your design would be appealing to the majority and maybe their hardcore implementation is not for you. Sadly, there might be no point for you in hardcore as you say. These things happen, and they can't appeal to everyone at the same time.

The rewards are insanely ugly anyway, but I really like the new champs. Wish they would show up on live, if not all the time, at least during champion hunter events.

[Alizar]

You would have to choose not to take the level if quests were locked 2 levels or 0 levels over base either way. That will just make you do quests for no xp a little earlier than it currently is. If you take the level before doing everything in that range, you lock yourself out of that much favor. Your problem seems to be the 5k favor requirement. You will have to do that many quests if you want the 5k favor reward, no matter where you set the lockout.

It feels like the challenge you wanted is something like "get to 30 by doing quests at base level at minimum difficulty reaper 1." While you can do that, there is no specific reward or leaderboard for that.

To me the definition of hardcore is pretty simple: you die, your character is gone. Then they set some goals like 5k reward. How to get 5k reward easily in that case? Get to lv 30 safely then do every quest without any risks. To avoid that, they set a quest lockout. They chose 4 lvs over base. Could have been 2 or 0 over base. It would still be a whole lot of quests to do, but the 4 lvs seems to be a pretty decent amount to allow more people to have fun playing a naked character and still have an achievable goal to the majority. The thing is they didn't set a goal you liked.

I'm not sure your design would be appealing to the majority and maybe their hardcore implementation is not for you. Sadly, there might be no point for you in hardcore as you say. These things happen, and they can't appeal to everyone at the same time.

The rewards are insanely ugly anyway, but I really like the new champs. Wish they would show up on live, if not all the time, at least during champion hunter events.

I also like the new Champs and would enjoy them being added to regular servers.

[Alizar]

I think limiting over level by 2 would be the right step forward and a good compromise to help out those new players who want to play Harcore. Favor requirement will need to be calculated based on the new limitation.

[o2t4f]

I think limiting over level by 2 would be the right step forward and a good compromise to help out those new players who want to play Harcore. Favor requirement will need to be calculated based on the new limitation.

Seeing as this is your first hardcore, one thing you should notice too is that an important part of the favor grind occurs at the 2+ base lv limitation. That is because there is a significant amount of quests that are in the lv 17 to 19 range, and therefore can be done at max lv 19, since once you take lv 20 you become epic and any heroic quest (those below lv 20) become locked for you.

[Alizar]

Seeing as this is your first hardcore, one thing you should notice too is that an important part of the favor grind occurs at the 2+ base lv limitation. That is because there is a significant amount of quests that are in the lv 17 to 19 range, and therefore can be done at max lv 19, since once you take lv 20 you become epic and any heroic quest (those below lv 20) become locked for you.

The Sweet Spot

[Mofus]

I dont even want the cosmetics since everyone will have them. I'm game for a hardcore server thats hardcore. That is all.

Do it on reaper, make the goals, true challenge.

[Logicman69]

Glad you are so uber that this season is a cakewalk for you. Enjoy your easy rewards and move on.

The rest of us, however, are enjoying the challenge. We have a static group running the favor and I am actually finding it quite fun to run some of these quests that I normally just skip past on live (I can't remember the last time I ran Archer's Point Defense). The new champs are fun and the addition if the mimics makes pulling chests a gamble (especially at lower levels). I was hoping that we would see some different monsters at higher levels. It would be fun if the chests at higher levels could also have a chance to spawn Beholders and Mind Flayers.

[kanordog]

Almost nobody is going to have them.

Even if I got any, I would not wear them at all:

The rewards are insanely ugly anyway

Finally, a fellow gamer with some sense of aesthetics.

I think limiting over level by 2 would be the right step forward and a good compromise to help out those new players who want to play Harcore. Favor requirement will need to be calculated based on the new limitation.

That is not a bad idea, it is actually how most permadeath guilds I know play. Running quests only on elite at level or below. (Harbour at level 4, waterworks at 5&6 etc.)

There is no point to play HC other than to play for the sake of it btw.