What did you die from?

[DAVIDARC]

Overconfidence, lack of patience and a healthy dose of stupidity.

Ditto, in that order.

[Mercureal]

I have died twice so far, once to a mimic and once to traps. But both deaths were facilitated by a slightly careless, YOLO approach to the quests and one was also definitely helped along by lag.

The mimic death happened because I approached the chest too casually and didn't react quickly enough - I was slowed and hit with multiple acid stacks in about a second. The trap death was in Repossession on Hard - I went in with no trap skills or evasion, knowing that even a single trap going off dealt enough damage to kill me. I intended to buff my stats and use Strength or Int to check, and recall out if I couldn't find it - but really I had no business being in there anyway, and I REALLY should thrown in the towel when I noticed the big lag spikes happening.

[Cranjis]

The mimic death happened because I approached the chest too casually and didn't react quickly enough - I was slowed and hit with multiple acid stacks in about a second. The trap death was in Repossession on Hard - I went in with no trap skills or evasion, knowing that even a single trap going off dealt enough damage to kill me. I intended to buff my stats and use Strength or Int to check, and recall out if I couldn't find it - but really I had no business being in there anyway, and I REALLY should thrown in the towel when I noticed the big lag spikes happening.

You don't need high stats to check which item is correct, it is not based on your stat score at all. All you need to do is go through and check each stat on each item, one of the four will tell you if it will open the door or not. Figured this out not too long ago...too bad the game doesn't tell you.

[AirbornedChild]

I died to crushing despair. Literally. It hit me 5 or 6 times, so I had no chance to survive.
So beware. If crushing despair hits you - you are probably dead.

[Amorais]

I died to crushing despair. Literally. It hit me 5 or 6 times, so I had no chance to survive.
So beware. If crushing despair hits you - you are probably dead.

Cant this be countered with a lesser restoration? Or is it instant damage?

[AirbornedChild]

Cant this be countered with a lesser restoration? Or is it instant damage?

No way to counter. Crushing despair multiprocs, no matter the save. Even if you save, you still got hit several times.
It's how despair works and worked. But this should not be in game. those -2 to attack, damage, saves should be 1 hit instead of many.

[herigor]

You know how you sometimes can get stuck in some landscape geometry? Well, was on my way to Shan-To-Kor when I got stuck just above gound in a Hobgoblin village. (I was trying to jump up onto the wall.) Now, my character went into the falling animation, regardless of the fact that he was not falling. But when I got free and dropped that 10 pixels to the floor? Yeah. It counted as falling all that time: (Combat): You suffer 78 points of damage from falling. Great. Feels totally earned to die from that. Not!

Oh, well.

[TartanKane]

You know how you sometimes can get stuck in some landscape geometry? Well, was on my way to Shan-To-Kor when I got stuck just above gound in a Hobgoblin village. (I was trying to jump up onto the wall.) Now, my character went into the falling animation, regardless of the fact that he was not falling. But when I got free and dropped that 10 pixels to the floor? Yeah. It counted as falling all that time: (Combat): You suffer 78 points of damage from falling. Great. Feels totally earned to die from that. Not!

Oh, well.

I always wear feather fall and deatch block items. I dont swap them in - they are always on. Otherwise I might forget. There are other falling bugs in the game that can instakill.

[elkorm]

Pretty sure many will say lag. Sort of the Shawshank "laywer blanked me" situation.

10 seconds freeze in front of 3 zombies at lvl 4 reminded me why I didn't play HC the past 2 seasons.
Oh right, lag doesn't exist, must have been my end.
cheers
Elk

[boredGamer]

10 seconds freeze in front of 3 zombies at lvl 4 reminded me why I didn't play HC the past 2 seasons.
Oh right, lag doesn't exist, must have been my end.
cheers
Elk

Elaborate, what level 1 quest zombies on hard killed your level 4 character? What build, what area, what was your group doing?

Must've been quite a bad pull but quite a good story!

[boredGamer]

You know how you sometimes can get stuck in some landscape geometry? Well, was on my way to Shan-To-Kor when I got stuck just above gound in a Hobgoblin village. (I was trying to jump up onto the wall.) Now, my character went into the falling animation, regardless of the fact that he was not falling. But when I got free and dropped that 10 pixels to the floor? Yeah. It counted as falling all that time: (Combat): You suffer 78 points of damage from falling. Great. Feels totally earned to die from that. Not!

Oh, well.

Level 7+ character killed from 78 points of falling damage? How? And how would you have made it through the rest of HC with such low HP?

I can keep this up all day.

[Careall]

You didn't list "Party Member".

I ran a pug through Proof and as I was clearing the top of the bridge, someone went down below and pulled the lever while I was standing on the bridge. Fortunately, the fire trap wouldn't have killed me, but also it missed me completely. My bad since I wasn't clear from the start of the quest? Sure. So I made it clear - "don't touch anything if you don't know what it does, you will kill other party members. Particularly the keys." As we approached the first key, I put in the party chat, "don't pick up the key." Thirty seconds later, the key was picked up. "I'm bailing," I said and recalled. Four party members also left, including the first guy who pulled the lever. Pug groups can kill players, so be careful.

[Careall]

You know how you sometimes can get stuck in some landscape geometry? Well, was on my way to Shan-To-Kor when I got stuck just above gound in a Hobgoblin village. (I was trying to jump up onto the wall.) Now, my character went into the falling animation, regardless of the fact that he was not falling. But when I got free and dropped that 10 pixels to the floor? Yeah. It counted as falling all that time: (Combat): You suffer 78 points of damage from falling. Great. Feels totally earned to die from that. Not!

Oh, well.

I really try to have enough Hit Points to jump off the guild's airship into the marketplace by level 5, which is roughly 85 falling damage with 1 point in Tumble. I figure that's about the most you'll take from falling damage unless you bounce.

[elkorm]

Elaborate, what level 1 quest zombies on hard killed your level 4 character? What build, what area, what was your group doing?

Must've been quite a bad pull but quite a good story!

catacomb, part 1. On Elite. Aasimar FVS running with a lvl 4 ftr hireling. 2 normal zombies and 1 aboreian champ. At the chest you get after reading the note, cleared THAT zombie and the other spawns and the gate opened up, letting in more zombies. I killed 2 easily and then I froze. I tell you, 10 seconds in front of 3 mobs is a long time. They didn't kill me, incapped at -3. I died from slow bleeding...
When I do dumb things I have no problem admitting it. I didn't rush, I was at full health, I had an hire, been killing mobs with 1 shot of sunbolt, 200 sp left, both LoH still to go. Without the "lag" spike there was no way I would have died. So this is it, have fun ppl with HC and silly deaths you can only avoid if you don't login into the game.
cheers
Elk

[balvix]

^this. Also, I made the poll based on obituaries that I saw, not the claims people made on how they died. Obituaries don't say "slain by lag" so I didn't include that.

I'm going to preface this with, I understand why you didn't include lag in your poll. I agree that it probably wouldn't have helped the poll at all because most ppl never like to admit to making a mistake such as running below lvl, under geared, or just plain doing dumb things. But I also see the point of the people that are annoyed that lag wasn't included. I liken a death to lag as being similar to falling off a ladder to your death in real life. Sure, its not the fall that killed you, it's the sudden stop at the end that did you in, but the fall is what brought you to the abrupt landing. So I would see the lag as the fall, no matter what stupid thing you were doing to previous to the fall, and the monster that killed your frozen toon as the landing that ultimately did you in. All that being said, I have seen people doing dumb things that when the server lagged got them killed and had the server not lagged they might have survived. People in that situation feel like they have things under control and it was the lags fault that they died. I however think that when people come to the hardcore server and play similarly to how they play on their main servers that they are a liability to a group, not just another body to take a hit, but an actual liability that can get everyone not just their dumb selves killed. When coming to hardcore the attitude of play should be adjusted for the server. If you don't want to play as a group and want to just zerg around, feel free, just don't join any groups. I cant count the amount of times that I have had ppl join my lfm, enter the quest, I give direction, only to watch as they zerg away and try to solo the dungeon. I make no attempts to race to their aid when I see their hp drop to low or zero. I move along at a safe pace and hope to get to them before their ultimate demise. I will not risk my toon to their stupidity. So far, I have only witnessed one death due to a lag spike that wasn't a player just getting too cocky and doing something dumb. Everyone was at the proper levels, nobody was under level, we all had decent hp and ok gear. there was a mob in the distance, we stayed grouped up, and aggroed the mob, then as soon as the mob started our direction a lag spike hit. It wasn't all that long but it had 2 champs in it and by the time the spike passed we were damaged but had one player down to negative numbers and were just a millisecond too late on the heal and he was gone. This was however the exception.

[Bobilar]

Just had my first death, thankfully on a secondary character I've been levelling for the time when my main dies. Third level warlock, and I see my higher level friend is in the abandoned minecshaft in Cerulean Hills. Thinking it would be an easy elite completion I asked if I could pike, but once in I stupidly decided I'd move away from the start of the dungeon to join him. Either mobs had rescpawned or not been cleared because when I dropped down into the lava area I was almost instantly incinerated by fire mephits or Fury of Flames. All my own impatient fault.

[boredGamer]

catacomb, part 1. On Elite. Aasimar FVS running with a lvl 4 ftr hireling. 2 normal zombies and 1 aboreian champ. At the chest you get after reading the note, cleared THAT zombie and the other spawns and the gate opened up, letting in more zombies. I killed 2 easily and then I froze. I tell you, 10 seconds in front of 3 mobs is a long time. They didn't kill me, incapped at -3. I died from slow bleeding...
When I do dumb things I have no problem admitting it. I didn't rush, I was at full health, I had an hire, been killing mobs with 1 shot of sunbolt, 200 sp left, both LoH still to go. Without the "lag" spike there was no way I would have died. So this is it, have fun ppl with HC and silly deaths you can only avoid if you don't login into the game.
cheers
Elk

Well, you have illustrated the point perfectly. Or you're trolling, not sure.

So, you could have, at a minimum:
- been THREE levels higher than you were
- had at least 12 more APs than you did
- had extra fvs hps (stout of heart)
- had FIVE other party members
- had someone that could heal you
- had die hard
- had gear from level 7

Literal hours of character advancement before you even needed to be where you were.

But of course, it was the lag, even though we all knew going into the season there would be lag. There's not even anything to *gain* being level 4 in a level 3 quest. So why bother? What was the goal you were even advancing with that plan?

[Aelonwy]

I've only gotten to level 7, haven't died...yet but I've found myself not giving the game my full attention a handful of times and sooner or later this will likely end me. I do have difficulty focusing on the game, not from lack of concentration but because I have kids, and other concerns that prevent me from devoting full attention to anything. This is why I don't raid much, I would hate for other people to depend on me and RL call my attention away at an important moment.

My only goal this HC is the tentacle cloak, level 20, its neat. The collar "head piece" is different but a tentacled helm would have been way better.

Something like this, but with cooler tentacles:

[Bobilar]

Well, you have illustrated the point perfectly. Or you're trolling, not sure.

So, you could have, at a minimum:
- been THREE levels higher than you were
- had at least 12 more APs than you did
- had extra fvs hps (stout of heart)
- had FIVE other party members
- had someone that could heal you
- had die hard
- had gear from level 7

Literal hours of character advancement before you even needed to be where you were.

But of course, it was the lag, even though we all knew going into the season there would be lag. There's not even anything to *gain* being level 4 in a level 3 quest. So why bother? What was the goal you were even advancing with that plan?

He only said his hireling was level 4, it's not clear what level the actual character was.

[boredGamer]

10 seconds freeze in front of 3 zombies at lvl 4 reminded me why I didn't play HC the past 2 seasons.
Oh right, lag doesn't exist, must have been my end.
cheers
Elk

He only said his heirelinhbwas level 4, it's not clear what level the actual character was.

Even if what you said was true, which it's not, based on his post *on this page* - you still wouldn't be "doing all you could do" - if you had a level 4 hireling and you were a level 7 character. Go get a level 7 hireling if you are level 7.

This is a fun break for me during work breaks, keep it coming!