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    Default U49 AA Monkcher Build Review

    Considering the upcoming U49 changes to bows I have been thinking of a good wisdom based AA build, this is primarily a support build so I wanted to toss in Rog coverage.

    For your consideration, please feel free to post comments & improvements I posted an alternative build version based on Paladin over there.

    AA Monk Traper
    18/2 Monk/Rogue
    Lawful Good Wood Elf




    Level Order


    1. Rogue . . . . . 6. Monk. . . . . .11. Monk. . . . . .16. Monk
    2. Monk . . . . . .7. Monk . . . . . 12. Monk . . . . . 17. Monk
    3. Monk . . . . . .8. Monk . . . . . 13. Monk . . . . . 18. Monk
    4. Monk . . . . . .9. Monk . . . . . 14. Monk . . . . . 19. Monk
    5. Monk . . . . . 10. Monk . . . . . 15. Monk . . . . . 20. Rogue





    Stats
    . . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
    Strength. . . . .8. . . .+8. . . .4: WIS
    Dexterity . . . 14. . . .+8. . . .8: WIS
    Constitution. . 14. . . .+8. . . 12: WIS
    Intelligence. . 14. . . .+8. . . 16: WIS
    Wisdom. . . . . 18. . . .+8. . . 20: WIS
    Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+8. . . 24: WIS
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: WIS



    Skills
    . . . . . R .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .R
    . . . . . 1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Disable . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 . . . . . . . . 6 .23
    Search. . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 . . . . . . . . 6 .23
    Spot. . . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1. 23
    Concent . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 3. 3. 3. 3. 2. . .22
    Jump. . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. . .20
    UMD . . . 4 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ . . 13
    Heal. . . 2 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ . . 11
    Open Lo . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
    Listen. . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
    Diplo . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
    Balance . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .40 .7 .7 .7 .7 .7 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .9 .9 .9 .9 .9 13





    Feats


    .1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
    .2 Monk . : Dodge
    .3. . . . : Completionist
    .3 Monk . : Zen Archery
    .6. . . . : Rapid Shot
    .7 Monk . : Ten Thousand Stars
    .9. . . . : Manyshot
    12. . . . : Improved Critical: Ranged
    15. . . . : Precise Shot
    18. . . . : Improved Precise Shot
    21 Epic . : Combat Archery
    24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    26 Destiny: Holy Strike
    27 Epic . : Burst of Glacial Wrath
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Mass Frog
    30 Epic . : Watchful Eye
    30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild


    .4 Monk . : Path of Harmonious Balance




    Enhancements (82+14 of 80+14 AP) Errors


    Elf-Arcane Archer (41 AP)
    • Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows, Mystical Archer
      1. Energy of the Wild III, Flaming Arrows
      2. Force Arrows III, Elemental Damage
      3. Terror Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
      4. Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows, Smiting Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
      5. Moonbow, Arrow of Slaying, Elemental Damage, Runebow


    Wood Elf (28 AP)
    • Elven Accuracy I, Dexterity, Elven Accuracy II, Dexterity, Elven Accuracy III
      1. Elven Weapon Training I
      2. Enchantment Lore III, Elven Weapon Training II, Arcanum II
      3. Elven Weapon Training III, Arcane Archer
      4. Through the Branches, Elven Weapon Training IV, Skill


    Falconry (27 AP)
    • Summon Avian Companion: Grey Owl, Ability Score: Wisdom, Well Rounded, Ability Score II: Wisdom
      1. Practiced Accuracy II, Out in Nature III
      2. Killer Instinct I, Action Boost: Sprint III
      3. Killer Instinct II, Conditioning, Eyes of the Eagle
      4. Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy II




    Destiny (25 of 24 AP) (Errors)


    Shiradi Champion
    1. Healing Spring II, Wisdom
    2. Prism, Wisdom
    3. Rainbow, Wisdom
    4. Double Rainbow, Wisdom
    5. Nerve Venom III, Wisdom
    6. Audience with the Queen, Hunt's End, Wisdom


    Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
    1. Martial Hymn (Tier 4 Fatesinger)
    2. Tsunami (Tier 3 Primal)
    3. School Specialist: Enchantment (Tier 2 Magister)
    4. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    5. Wisdom (Tier 1 Primal)









    Last edited by majorhavoc; 04-02-2021 at 09:19 AM.
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    I am currently playing a Monkcher (13 monk 6 ranger 1 rogue). Currently level 19. I used Arcane Archer Tree and Falconry for most of my heroic life and then switched to Deepwood Sniper later on.

    I must say that currently, Arcane Archer is just really in a bad place and the difference between Arcane Archer and Deepwood Sniper is pretty big. Tier 5 Arcane Archer is bad. The elemental damage is not great. The DPS if you use Paralyzing even worse. You would get a 25% Doubleshot bonus from 5 more monk levels but I don't think its enough. You also only need 1 rogue level.

    6 Ranger in my opinion is definitely the way to go. The Bow pass will not make Arcane Archer any better.

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    You are aware that every indication is that 10K stars going to be nerfed to work with Shuriken only, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfhild View Post
    You are aware that every indication is that 10K stars going to be nerfed to work with Shuriken only, right?

    No, I had no idea it was going to get nerfed.

    That being the case perhaps any form of Monkcher is going to suck compared to other build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by majorhavoc View Post
    No, I had no idea it was going to get nerfed.

    That being the case perhaps any form of Monkcher is going to suck compared to other build.
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news

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    Quote Originally Posted by majorhavoc View Post
    No, I had no idea it was going to get nerfed.

    That being the case perhaps any form of Monkcher is going to suck compared to other build.
    Yea it was suggested by steelstar that would be the change, but we don't know the actual change until preview 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamani View Post
    Yea it was suggested by steelstar that would be the change, but we don't know the actual change until preview 2.
    Seems more than a bit stupid to go through programming changes nerfing a skill that barely benefited an obsolete build, when compared to Inquisitive dual wielder Arti's, Warlock, & Chr Pallies.

    Of course, they're apparently nerfing the "Pinon, Cloud Piercer" despite it being scarce for fear that might be even somewhat OP in the new revision. So effed if I know what they're thinking is a priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merfyn View Post
    Seems more than a bit stupid to go through programming changes nerfing a skill that barely benefited an obsolete build, when compared to Inquisitive dual wielder Arti's, Warlock, & Chr Pallies.

    Of course, they're apparently nerfing the "Pinon, Cloud Piercer" despite it being scarce for fear that might be even somewhat OP in the new revision. So effed if I know what they're thinking is a priority.
    If you're talking about the crit range for pinion. Thats not changing. It's remaining the same as it is an epic weapon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamani View Post
    If you're talking about the crit range for pinion. Thats not changing. It's remaining the same as it is an epic weapon...
    Release notes say changed to 19-20, where the ones I have say 18-20.

    Happily it looks like maybe they decided to not change 10 thousand stars at this time, so this might monkcher still be viable?

    P.S. Kinda irritating - I've been trying to snag a Silver Longbow since the announcement was made, & haven't pulled one. I wonder if the drop was somehow negated in preparation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merfyn View Post
    Release notes say changed to 19-20, where the ones I have say 18-20.

    Happily it looks like maybe they decided to not change 10 thousand stars at this time, so this might monkcher still be viable?

    P.S. Kinda irritating - I've been trying to snag a Silver Longbow since the announcement was made, & haven't pulled one. I wonder if the drop was somehow negated in preparation?
    Yes, and you get the +1 range right back from point blank shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamani View Post
    Yes, and you get the +1 range right back from point blank shot.
    Yeah, I got that already; you said the crit range for pinion wasn't changing. My point was that it's still a "bow nerf" because they didn't want the crit range to effectively become 17-20 with PBS.

    I'm going to check to see if it was made retroactive [EDIT - yes, it was retroactive, plus Steelstar said they screwed up the notes and DID eliminate 10 Thousand Stars on a bow]

    ... anyroad, no point in discussing it with you.

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    Not quite comforting news. Alya, thank you for a good analysis.

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    The situation in the game will not improve much. But maybe planned changes, I want to think so.

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