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    Now that they have been nerfed into oblivion without even a single tree pass any plans to fix em b4 2025

    Might come back for that otherwise thanks for nothing
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    Logged in to see the servers are deader then ever and everyones pallys n barbs great new year lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr420247 View Post
    Logged in to see the servers are deader then ever and everyones pallys n barbs great new year lol
    My water savant seems to be only good for mass hold in high reaper now. I log in, I wait for high reaper quests. 10 minutes, I leave. I actually looked for another game the other day. First time in 11 years. To be honest, I couldn’t find one where everyone wasn’t complaining about dying servers. It’s not just DDO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bracelet View Post
    My water savant seems to be only good for mass hold in high reaper now. I log in, I wait for high reaper quests. 10 minutes, I leave. I actually looked for another game the other day. First time in 11 years. To be honest, I couldn’t find one where everyone wasn’t complaining about dying servers. It’s not just DDO.
    I left too. Any tip for some good game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tebaco View Post
    I left too. Any tip for some good game?
    Dragons Crown on PS3 is mindless fun. I had that on earlier. Will have it on again here later i bet. An MMO of a similar type on PC is Dungeon Fighter Online.

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    We are not supposed to play sorcerers.
    You nerfed my monks, throwers, dailies and alchemists.
    I hardly play anymore, found a better hobby.
    Thank You!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr420247 View Post
    Now that they have been nerfed into oblivion without even a single tree pass any plans to fix em b4 2025

    Might come back for that otherwise thanks for nothing
    My sorcerer is still very decent at cap (after nerfs) and can solo most quests on r6 I am not sure whether you're talking about heroics or what but if you are talking about sorcerers at cap then you're just building yours wrong however sorcerers need tree passes not because they need more damage but because some of the enhancements.are broken and outdated af example is earthgrab from earth savant tree it has very low dc and uses con ?! Anyhow let me know if you want my build

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomdude1223 View Post
    My sorcerer is still very decent at cap (after nerfs) and can solo most quests on r6 I am not sure whether you're talking about heroics or what but if you are talking about sorcerers at cap then you're just building yours wrong however sorcerers need tree passes not because they need more damage but because some of the enhancements.are broken and outdated af example is earthgrab from earth savant tree it has very low dc and uses con ?! Anyhow let me know if you want my build
    I dont think i am building my sorc bad. It worked before nerf. So post your build and maybe youtube video how you solo r6. So we can see what sevant you running and what spells you using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr420247 View Post
    Now that they have been nerfed into oblivion without even a single tree pass any plans to fix em b4 2025

    Might come back for that otherwise thanks for nothing
    Hey D! Sorc is still the best caster we have in the game along with fvs.
    On high skulls endgame every caster dps is bad, but this is nothing new.
    Maybe balance nuking in both r1 and r10 is impossible...
    You can play a “heavy” nuker for fun (I’m doing it right now using a fvs) or just go dc. Dc sorcs are still top tier, go cold and you can still take down some reapers or dw mobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    On high skulls endgame every caster dps is bad, but this is nothing new.

    And still people whined about how op is sorc on forum with result nerfing sorc. And nerfing it that bad that it is unplayable meaning that there is zero fun in user experience. Cooldown nerf was worst nerf ever. It is so annoying waiting when you can cast your spell. It wasnt first nerf of sorc. There were others nerfs for dragon breach cooldown too for example.

    Some people say adapt. But maybe some people dont want adapt. Dont have time for swapping classes and farming new gear. So result is simple game over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tebaco View Post
    And still people whined about how op is sorc on forum with result nerfing sorc.
    Players whine based on their own experiences, probably in heroic or low reapers...

    Even before the latest changes, no one could claim the sorc top tier dps in r10 unless playing with clueless players.
    That said, sorc is one of the best casters we have and it’s still great in endgame. But not as nuker. Nuker sorc has been dead a long time.
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    Sure, after pairing with P2P race, P2P universal trees, and completing every major grind in the game, using temp. boosts, locked into one ED "choice", the class is fine. <logic and details are for the weak> :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    Players whine based on their own experiences, probably in heroic or low reapers...
    I think they whine simply because they like griefing other players and the developers have rewarded them by "listening." Something against The Rules that we all accept when we sign on to play. Too bad the developers refuse to enforce those rules but choose to enforce other rules. Almost like they play favorites

    Even before the latest changes, no one could claim the sorc top tier dps in r10 unless playing with clueless players.
    Not sure about that considering both Sorc and Alch were the two sought after classes in high reaper. Then again the developers continue to think packs of NPC's is how you challenge players /shrug. So maybe they should change their game design. Lol, who am I kidding. They will just pack the rooms with more NPC's that cause Instant Red Dungeon Alert. After all, they just literally nerfed the two classes who could handle extremely packed Instant Red Dungeon Alert design. Coincidence? I think not.

    That said, sorc is one of the best casters we have and it’s still great in endgame. But not as nuker. Nuker sorc has been dead a long time.
    Less than an update. Dang you forget quick.
    If they can't nuke, what good are they? CC? Need you forget they nerfed Crowd Control in the highest reaper substantially. 6 seconds top duration from memory. Shorter than the cooldown of most spells/abilities. So if they can't CC and can't nuke why would you have them. You are better off with FvS CC spec'd and more DPS who can also CC with Stun/Trip/Ear Smash.

    Although I have seen a resurgence of Ice Sorc's. So /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tebaco View Post
    I left too. Any tip for some good game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbyssalMage View Post
    If they can't nuke, what good are they? CC?
    Nuking and DC casting are two different balance topics. And both are problematic.
    In recent times, nuking has always been really bad on R10 endgame (also for fire sorcs and alchemists... they were the best nukers among casters, but still bad).
    R10 ofc is not R8, or R6, or elite, and aoe nuking has still a huge impact on lower difficulties. If I were to do my racials, I'd use a sorcerer.
    So, imho, the range goes from "play it just for fun" on R10 to "OMG that's insane! Nerf nerf nerf!" on low skulls. Please note every class/build can be 'insane' on low skulls. There is no need to nerf artificers or warlocks :P

    DC casting is also very problematic on R10 endgame (and probably difficult to fix because the d20 saves system) because the required investment is huge and having good DCs it's an impossible goal for non maxed toons.

    I agree that fire sorc has been killed by the last update. I'm happy? No I'm not. It was viable but not overperforming on R10. Not at all.
    Cold sorc can still be played (DC specced in magister ofc), but it's not the fire sorc nuker we had.

    I'm playing a tiefling fvs nuker in DI and if you want to play a nuker I recommend it. Even while specced as nuker, fvs retains a decent amount of utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomdude1223 View Post
    My sorcerer is still very decent at cap (after nerfs) and can solo most quests on r6 I am not sure whether you're talking about heroics or what but if you are talking about sorcerers at cap then you're just building yours wrong however sorcerers need tree passes not because they need more damage but because some of the enhancements.are broken and outdated af example is earthgrab from earth savant tree it has very low dc and uses con ?! Anyhow let me know if you want my build
    Yes we want we need your build

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramachandra108 View Post
    Yes we want we need your build
    I bet he cant post things that doesnt exists.

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    "Nerfed to oblivion"...whatever.

    Recast timer on Meteor Swarm got raised a little bit.
    You lost some spellpower from your Ravenloft belt.

    Literally those were the only changes to Sorcerer. This constant barrage of hyperbolic nonsense is why the devs ignore you people. As they should.
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