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    Default First Life Friendly THF Charisma Paladin

    Good morning, my name is Strimtim and I have a new build for you fine young people today. You see, people asked me for a feydark paladin build and I wanted to make sure I delivered on that expectation so here you have it, the feydark paladin that is first life ready for levelling and fun. If you want a detailed description of the build and performance, please see video:



    Without further ado, here is the build with no tomes or anything needed for success. Important note, this build does use the defensive stance which increases threat generation, which could cause future issues with aggro during raids, which is something to consider.

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    Character name: Feydark THF Paladin
    Classes: 20 Paladin, 10 Epic
    Race: Dragonborn· · · · · ·Alignment: Lawful Good
    
    · · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · 10% · · ·Displacement:· · 0%
    Str:· · 17· · 0 · ·20 · · ·HP:· · · ·2103 · · ·AC:· ·195
    Dex:· · ·6· · 0 · ·32 · · ·PRR: · · · 221
    Con:· · 16· · 0 · ·57 · · ·MRR: · · · 126 · · ·+Healing Amp:· ·245
    Int:· · ·8· · 0 · ·13 · · ·Dodge: · ·3/27 · · ·-Healing Amp: 4294967251
    Wis:· · 12· · 0 · ·17 · · ·Fort:· · ·361% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 15
    Cha:· · 18· · 0 · ·79 · · ·SR:· · · · · 3 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 20
    DR: 30\-
    Immunities: Natural Disease, Magical Disease, Super-Natural Disease, Fear, Energy Drain, Charisma Damage, Blindness, Death effect, Level drain, Freedome of Movement, Death Effects, Mind-altering effects
    
    Class and Feat Selection
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    Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
    1 · · Paladin(1)· · · ·Standard: Two Handed Fighting
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Dragonborn Racial: Draconic Ancestry: Blue
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Follower of Faith: Follower of the Sovereign Host
    2 · · Paladin(2)· · · ·
    3 · · Paladin(3)· · · ·Standard: Magical Training
    4 · · Paladin(4)· · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    5 · · Paladin(5)· · · ·
    6 · · Paladin(6)· · · ·Standard: Improved Two Handed Fighting
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Deity: Unyielding Sovereignty
    7 · · Paladin(7)· · · ·
    8 · · Paladin(8)· · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    9 · · Paladin(9)· · · ·Standard: Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    10· · Paladin(10) · · ·
    11· · Paladin(11) · · ·
    12· · Paladin(12) · · ·Standard: Greater Two Handed Fighting
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    13· · Paladin(13) · · ·
    14· · Paladin(14) · · ·
    15· · Paladin(15) · · ·Standard: Child of Faith
    16· · Paladin(16) · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    17· · Paladin(17) · · ·
    18· · Paladin(18) · · ·Standard: Beloved of the Divine
    19· · Paladin(19) · · ·
    20· · Paladin(20) · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
    22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·
    23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
    24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Quicken Spell
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·
    26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Reflexes
    28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Dire Charge
    30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Fortitude
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of Arborea
    
    Skills
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    Skill Points· · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1
    Skill Name· · · ·01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20· Total Buffed
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    Balance · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 30.0
    Bluff · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 62.0
    Concentration · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 44.0
    Diplomacy · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 63.0
    Disable Device· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 20.0
    Haggle· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 63.0
    Heal· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
    Hide· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 28.0
    Intimidate· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 62.0
    Jump· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 23.0
    Listen· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 21.0
    Move Silently · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 35.0
    Open Lock · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 29.0
    Perform · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 62.0
    Repair· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 21.0
    Search· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 21.0
    Spell Craft · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
    Spot· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
    Swim· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 23.0
    Tumble· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 29.0
    Use Magic Device· 2 ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· ½ · · ·11.0 · 75.0
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    Available Points· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·1
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    Enhancements: 80 APs, Racial 13, Universal 1
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    Knight of the Chalice - Points spent: 41
     1 Core ·(1) Slayer of Evil I
     2 Tier1 (2) Holy Combatant I
     3 Tier1 (1) Extra Smite
     4 Tier1 (1) Extra Smite
     5 Tier1 (1) Extra Smite
     6 Tier2 (1) Divine Might
     7 Tier2 (1) Divine Might
     8 Tier2 (1) Divine Might
     9 Tier2 (2) Adept Combatant
    10 Core ·(1) Courage of Heaven
    11 Core ·(1) Slayer of Evil II
    12 Tier3 (1) Lead the Charge
    13 Tier3 (2) Exalted Smite: Exalted Smite
    14 Tier3 (2) Exalted Smite: Exalted Smite
    15 Tier3 (2) Exalted Smite: Exalted Smite
    16 Tier3 (2) Ability I: +1 Charisma
    17 Core ·(1) Improved Courage of Heaven
    18 Tier3 (2) Holy Combatant II
    19 Tier4 (2) Knight's Training
    20 Tier4 (1) Censure Demons
    21 Tier4 (2) Vigor of Life I
    22 Core ·(1) Slayer of Evil III
    23 Tier5 (2) Ascendancy
    24 Tier5 (1) Censure Outsiders
    25 Tier5 (2) Vigor of Life II
    26 Tier5 (1) Holy Retribution: Holy Retribution
    27 Tier4 (2) Ability II: +1 Charisma
    28 Tier1 (1) Shieldbeaker
    29 Core ·(1) Champion of Good
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    Sacred Defender - Points spent: 31
     1 Core ·(1) Holy Bastion
     2 Tier1 (1) Extra Lay on Hands
     3 Tier1 (1) Extra Lay on Hands
     4 Tier1 (1) Extra Lay on Hands
     5 Tier1 (1) Improved Sacred Defense I: Durable Defense
     6 Tier1 (1) Improved Sacred Defense I: Durable Defense
     7 Tier1 (1) Improved Sacred Defense I: Durable Defense
     8 Tier2 (1) Bulwark Aura
     9 Tier2 (1) Bulwark Aura
    10 Tier2 (1) Bulwark Aura
    11 Core ·(1) Sacred Defence
    12 Core ·(1) Divine Righteousness
    13 Tier3 (1) Resistance Aura
    14 Tier3 (1) Resistance Aura
    15 Tier3 (1) Resistance Aura
    16 Tier3 (1) Greater Sacred Defense I: Tenacious Defense
    17 Tier3 (1) Greater Sacred Defense I: Tenacious Defense
    18 Tier3 (1) Greater Sacred Defense I: Tenacious Defense
    19 Tier3 (2) Ability I: +1 Charisma
    20 Core ·(1) Redemption
    21 Tier4 (1) Greater Sacred Defense II: Hardy Defense
    22 Tier4 (1) Greater Sacred Defense II: Hardy Defense
    23 Tier4 (1) Greater Sacred Defense II: Hardy Defense
    24 Tier4 (1) Swift Defense
    25 Tier4 (2) Ability II: +1 Charisma
    26 Tier1 (1) Sacred Armor Mastery
    27 Tier1 (1) Sacred Armor Mastery
    28 Tier1 (1) Sacred Armor Mastery
    29 Core ·(1) Glorious Stand
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    Feydark Illusionist - Points spent: 7
     1 Core ·(1) Find Familiar: Pseudodragon
     2 Tier1 (2) Familiar's Flourish I
     3 Tier1 (2) Illusory Weaponry
     4 Tier2 (2) Familiar's Flourish II
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    Active Destiny Tree
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    Fatesinger - Points spent: 25
     1 Core ·(0)· Repertoire
     2 Core ·(0) Glitter of Fame
     3 Core ·(0) Harmonic Resonance
     4 Core ·(0) Intoxicating Presence
     5 Core ·(0) Grandeur
     6 Core ·(0) Majesty
     7 Tier1 (1) First Harmonic Chord
     8 Tier1 (1) First Harmonic Chord
     9 Tier1 (2) Ability I: +1 Charisma
    10 Tier2 (1) Reign
    11 Tier2 (1) Reign
    12 Tier2 (1) Reign
    13 Tier2 (2)· Ability II: +1 Charisma
    14 Tier3 (2) Ability III: +1 Charisma
    15 Tier2 (1) Bound Fate
    16 Tier4 (2) Martial Hymn
    17 Tier4 (2) Ability IV: +1 Charisma
    18 Tier5 (1) Bladesong
    19 Tier5 (1) Masquerade
    20 Tier5 (1) The Fith Chord
    21 Tier5 (2) Ability V: +1 Charisma
    22 Tier6 (1) Turn of the Tide
    23 Tier3 (1) Grim Fate
    24 Tier2 (1) Bound Fate
    25 Tier3 (1) Grim Fate
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    Twists of fate - 22 of 41 Fate points spent.
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    Twist 1 - Tier 3: Shadowdancer: Meld Into Darkness
    Twist 2 - Tier 2: Unyielding Sentinel: Endless Smiting
    Twist 3 - Tier 2: Grandmaster of Flowers: A Dance of Flowers
    Twist 4 - Tier 1: Primal Avatar: Rejuvenation Cocoon
    Twist 5 - Tier 0: Twist slot empty
    
    Spells· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · School· · · · ·DC
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    Paladin Spells
    L1: Aid · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Enchantment · · 24
    L1: Lesser Restoration· · · · · · · · · · · Conjuration · · 16
    L1: Seek Eternal Rest · · · · · · · · · · · Conjuration · · 16
    L2: Raise Dead· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Conjuration · · 17
    L2: Angelskin · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Abjuration· · · 16
    L2: Resist Energy · · · · · · · · · · · · · Abjuration· · · 16
    L2: Righteous Command · · · · · · · · · · · Enchantment · · 25
    L3: Resurrection· · · · · · · · · · · · · · Conjuration · · 18
    L3: Cure Moderate Wounds· · · · · · · · · · Conjuration · · 18
    L3: Magic Circle Against Evil · · · · · · · Abjuration· · · 17
    L3: Prayer· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Enchantment · · 26
    L4: True Resurrection · · · · · · · · · · · Conjuration · · 19
    L4: Death Ward· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Transmutation · 19
    L4: Holy Sword· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Evocation · · · 19
    L4: Zeal· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Transmutation · 19
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    Equipped Gear Set : Standard
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    Armor · · · · Legendary Enforcer's Plate
    · · · · · · · +15 Enhancement Bonus
    · · · · · · · Fortification +214%
    · · · · · · · Physical Sheltering +54
    · · · · · · · Healing Amplification +85
    · · · · · · · False Life +81
    · · · · · · · Legendary Part of the Family
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Belt· · · · · Direwolf Belt
    · · · · · · · Superior Reinforced Fists
    · · · · · · · Deception +17
    · · · · · · · Insightful Seeker +10
    · · · · · · · Shield Bonus +21
    · · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Boots · · · · Legendary Deepsnow Boots
    · · · · · · · Insightful Constitution +10
    · · · · · · · Quality Constitution +5
    · · · · · · · Freedom of Movement
    · · · · · · · Fortitude Save +17
    · · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Bracers · · · Brightlord, the Sigil of the Flame
    · · · · · · · Charisma +22
    · · · · · · · Speed +30%
    · · · · · · · Armor-Piercing +36
    · · · · · · · Extra Smites
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Yellow: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Blue: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Cloak · · · · Legendary Cloak of Winter
    · · · · · · · Cold Absorption +50%
    · · · · · · · False Life +81
    · · · · · · · Legendary Ice Barrier
    · · · · · · · Lifesealed 50%
    · · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Gloves· · · · Legendary Hammerfist
    · · · · · · · Insightful Doublestrike +11%
    · · · · · · · Cannith Combat Infusion
    · · · · · · · Seeker +21
    · · · · · · · Insightful Deadly +8
    · · · · · · · Legendary Part of the Family
    · · · · · · · Blue: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Goggles · · · Legendary Collective Sight
    · · · · · · · Quality Resistance +4
    · · · · · · · Temperance of Belief
    · · · · · · · Nearly Finished (SDCIWC): +21 Constitution
    · · · · · · · Nearly Finished (Ins SDCIWC): +10 Insightful Charisma
    · · · · · · · Blue: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Helmet· · · · Legendary Crown of Butterflies
    · · · · · · · Crown of Summer
    · · · · · · · Winged Allure
    · · · · · · · Enchantment Focus 9
    · · · · · · · Magical Sheltering +54
    · · · · · · · Eminence of Spring
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Necklace· · · The Family's Blessing
    · · · · · · · Quality Assassinate +2
    · · · · · · · Insightful Armor-Piercing +16
    · · · · · · · Deadly +17
    · · · · · · · Doublestrike +24%
    · · · · · · · Legendary Part of the Family
    · · · · · · · Yellow: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Blue: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Ring1 · · · · Legendary Celestial Ruby Ring
    · · · · · · · Stunning +23
    · · · · · · · Accuracy +33
    · · · · · · · Ghostly
    · · · · · · · Nearly Finished (SDI): +21 Dexterity
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Ring2 · · · · Legendary Nocturne Ring
    · · · · · · · Command +10
    · · · · · · · True Seeing
    · · · · · · · Insightful Incite +86%
    · · · · · · · Insightful Fortification +107%
    · · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Trinket · · · Bloodrage Chrism
    · · · · · · · Healing Amplification +83
    · · · · · · · Calamitous Blows
    · · · · · · · Bloodrage Defense
    · · · · · · · Rune-fuelled Warding
    · · · · · · · Unnatural
    · · · · · · · Crypt Raider Set (Legendary)
    · · · · · · · Blue: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Green: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    Weapon1 · · · The Reflection of Blackrazor
    · · · · · · · Damage and Type 5[2d6+6] + 15 Slash, Magic
    · · · · · · · Critical Threat Range 19-20 x2
    · · · · · · · +15 Enhancement Bonus
    · · · · · · · Overwhelming Stealer of Souls
    · · · · · · · Keen V
    · · · · · · · Entropic 9
    · · · · · · · Vampirism 4
    · · · · · · · Psychic Ward
    · · · · · · · Red: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Orange: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Mythic: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Reaper: Empty augment slot
    · · · · · · · Sentient Weapon Personality: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 1: Sanctified Fervor/Reverberation: +2 Charisma
    · · · · · · · Filigree 2: Sanctified Fervor: Charisma
    · · · · · · · Filigree 3: Sanctified Fervor: Melee Power
    · · · · · · · Filigree 4: Sanctified Fervor: Smite Evil
    · · · · · · · Filigree 5: Sanctified Fervor: Healing Amplification
    · · · · · · · Filigree 6: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 7: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 8: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 9: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 10: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 11: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 12: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 13: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 14: 
    · · · · · · · Filigree 15: 
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    Last edited by Strimtom; 04-16-2021 at 11:17 AM.
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    Yeah, like a first lifer is gonna have all that gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP457 View Post
    Yeah, like a first lifer is gonna have all that gear.
    There's not a single item on that list that a first lifer can't get. All but 1 are available from standard quests, with a halfway decent chance of getting them on Hard.

    Bloodrage Chrism requires a raid, and upgrading Echo to Reflection requires running a raid. But if you're in an active enough guild, running a raid shouldn't be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    There's not a single item on that list that a first lifer can't get. All but 1 are available from standard quests, with a halfway decent chance of getting them on Hard.

    Bloodrage Chrism requires a raid, and upgrading Echo to Reflection requires running a raid. But if you're in an active enough guild, running a raid shouldn't be a problem.
    You missed the filigree, that's from a raid that isn't pugged ever on G land.
    And KT is a slog to get the BR upgrade
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    The kotc and sacred defender enhancements are wrong. Way wrong in the sacred defender side. It’s like someone hasn’t played a Pali before wrong. Fatesinger points are off.

    3 raid items in gear and maxed destinies for a first lifer? Might as well add in an epic litany augment as well if you are making a wish list. What are they holding levels while they fill out destinies to get some of those feats?

    Why in the 10th name of the almighty are you twisting in cocoon. It’s a Pali. Lay on hands and cure spells or heal scrolls. Twists are harder to get than plat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    You missed the filigree, that's from a raid that isn't pugged ever on G land
    Uh. Ok. So are you arguing that 1 stat point from one rare filigree makes or breaks the build?

    That wasn't the hypothesis, the hypothesis was "a first lifer ain't gonna have all that stuff." I am merely pointing out that that is the point of the revolution in the game brought on by the level 29 named gear: any first lifer can have all that stuff, especially since it is (minus the 1 raid item and 1 raid-upgraded item) bound to account
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    You missed the filigree, that's from a raid that isn't pugged ever on G land.
    And KT is a slog to get the BR upgrade
    Filigree is from threads of fate, which drop in any raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    Uh. Ok. So are you arguing that 1 stat point from one rare filigree makes or breaks the build?

    That wasn't the hypothesis, the hypothesis was "a first lifer ain't gonna have all that stuff." I am merely pointing out that that is the point of the revolution in the game brought on by the level 29 named gear: any first lifer can have all that stuff, especially since it is (minus the 1 raid item and 1 raid-upgraded item) bound to account
    Family Blessing is also a raid item.

    In reality, I think it is fine to include the endgame gearing choices regardless of whether the build is intended for first lifers. It shows the player what they should be striving towards. Sometimes that is a hard ask for someone without a lot of game experience.

    What would be even better, though, is to include some intermediate choices that are more accessible. For example, maybe the Family Recruit Sigil can be substituted until the Family Blessing is obtained. Maybe there is a good option for trinket before one gets the bloodrage chrism? (I'm hesitant to offer an alternative without spending more time looking at all the gearing implications.) Showing some reasonable alternatives would really help a new player, I think.

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    “Action points, 80 enhancement, 13 racial, 1 universal” which means all the stats are off because the planner thinks this first life character is a racial completionist.

    Also wrong is the 25 of 41 destiny points spent, which means the planner thinks this first life character has 24 epic past lives.

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    The more I look at this, the more I think this guy is trolling. What a jerk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP457 View Post
    Yeah, like a first lifer is gonna have all that gear.
    Except for the Bloodrage Chrism and the sword, there is no raid loot. And the sword is an easy swap to any favored weapon until you can get the 5 schism shards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socky-mcsockerton View Post
    Except for the Bloodrage Chrism and the sword, there is no raid loot. And the sword is an easy swap to any favored weapon until you can get the 5 schism shards.
    Necklace is a raid item, and there is a feytwisted item, which can be harder than raid gear at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP457 View Post
    Yeah, like a first lifer is gonna have all that gear.
    The goal is to have a list of things to strive for. It is possible to play and get all that gear, the main purpose of the character is to give people a starting point on the actual build of the character itself. Swapping out a few items is a different scenario than swapping out a whole build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Torkzed View Post
    Family Blessing is also a raid item.

    In reality, I think it is fine to include the endgame gearing choices regardless of whether the build is intended for first lifers. It shows the player what they should be striving towards. Sometimes that is a hard ask for someone without a lot of game experience.

    What would be even better, though, is to include some intermediate choices that are more accessible. For example, maybe the Family Recruit Sigil can be substituted until the Family Blessing is obtained. Maybe there is a good option for trinket before one gets the bloodrage chrism? (I'm hesitant to offer an alternative without spending more time looking at all the gearing implications.) Showing some reasonable alternatives would really help a new player, I think.
    This is good feedback, having an alternate set without raid items isn't a bad idea. I already try to avoid using any THTH items since it can be very hard to get into one of those. I normally include older raid items since they are run fairly regularly (on argo at least) and aren't tough to get into for the most part. I'll keep this in mind if there is a easier way to get this done.

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    The more I look at this, the more I think this guy is trolling. What a jerk.
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    I ran something similar recently, but using a Bladeforged. I wanted to see if Power of the Forge was worth it (it really wasn't). But it definitely was a fun build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strimtom View Post

    I'm sorry you had a negative experience watching my video and reading this post. Hopefully your day gets better!
    Can you explain how you get to 195 AC? The best I can see is 146, with the cruddy heroic def fighting turned on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninety View Post
    Necklace is a raid item, and there is a feytwisted item, which can be harder than raid gear at times.
    I missed the necklace being the raid item, but the base necklace is good too.

    For Feywild, it's tedious, but it isn't hard. Just takes forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninety View Post
    Can you explain how you get to 195 AC? The best I can see is 146, with the cruddy heroic def fighting turned on.
    Jeez, Ninety. I've seen people with over 500 ACs.

    I know that doesn't help you much and you've recently just come back to the game, but don't be surprised by some on the numbers you'll see here on the forums.
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    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Jeez, Ninety. I've seen people with over 500 ACs.

    I know that doesn't help you much and you've recently just came back to the game, but don't be surprised by some on the numbers you'll see here on the forums.

    What better way to learn than to question? I put in everything that was listed in the forum export and got vastly different numbers on HP, AC, and stats.

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    Hey Strimtom, am I correct in assuming you played this build prior to the THF changes? How do you think the damage changes will affect this particular build?
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