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    Default Teh Shtick - A Barbarian Stick Rogue With no Barbarian Levels

    Chippacabre Stick-Barb

    People have been asking about this build that I have been running for the last 6 or 9 months, so here you go.
    I know there are no Barbarian levels but don't worry about it. Hope you enjoy!

    Tripple completionist, Epic Completionist, Racial Completionist, +8 tome all stats
    Race : Half-Orc

    Starting Stats | Str 14 | Dex 18 | Con 16 | Int 12 | Wis 8 | Char 6
    Must have Str where it is for THF line and PA. Int is enough to barely get traps with some gear swaps at the end but is fine leveling up with an item. Keep in mind if you are doing this build w/o all the past lives/tomes I have, it may be better to start 17 dex, 13 str, and 14 int. This will help with trapping without sacrificing much.

    1 Rogue – Power Attack
    2 Rogue –
    3 Druid – THF | Spells – Shillelagh, Ram's Might
    4 Rogue -
    5 Rogue –
    6 Rogue – Improved Feint
    7 Fighter – Weapon Focus Bludgeoning
    8 Rogue
    9 Fighter – Completionist | Improved THF
    10 Rogue –
    11 Rogue
    12 Fighter - Improved Crit Bludgeon
    13 Rogue -
    14 Rogue – Improved Evasion
    15 Fighter – Greater THF | Weapon Specialization Bludgeoning
    16 Rogue –
    17 Rogue
    18 Rogue – Toughness | Opportunist
    19 Rogue
    20 Rogue -
    21 Overwhelming Crit
    24 Improved Sneak Attack
    26 Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    27 Blinding Speed (I subbed this out for Precision when I got Cornerstone Champion from THTH)
    28 Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    29 Dire Charge
    30 Epic toughness | Scion of Arborea

    Feat Notes:
    *I didn't feel that precision was that necessary. You are getting +16 damage from power attack and I always had fort bypass gear so it didn't seem necessary leveling up. At end game again – I have 58% fort bypass so would still crit and get sneak attack often. If you do not have racial PL and aren't going to invest in the extra power attack from H-orc tree then I would take precision at 18, toughness at 28 and skip the 5% double strike from PTWF. Regardless you will always run in PA unless fighting constructs and undead, then switch.*

    Skill points :
    Balance 23| Hide 23| Intim 23 | Bluff 23 | Jump 9 | Tumble 1 | UMD 23 | Search 23 | Spot 23 | Disable 23 | Move Silently 15 | Open Lock 4 |

    Enhancements:
    Half-Orc – 18 points – 1 core, Orc weapon training x 4, Stubborn x3, Action boost orc rage, Improved Power attack x3
    Thief Accrobat – 42 points – 4 cores, All staff training, Thief Acrobatics, Fast movement, Quick Strike x3, Shadow Dodge x3, Sweeping Strikes x1, Staff Lunge x1, No Mercy x3, All tier 5's
    Kensei – 22 points – 1 core, Haste Boost x3, Kensei Weapon Specialization: Martial Arts x 3, Tactics x2, Conditioning x1, Crit Mastery x3, Dex x1 Opportunity Attack
    Assassin – 11 points – 3 cores, Sneak attack training x2, shiv x2, Venomed blades x2
    Inquisitive free ap – 1st core


    While leveling build up in order of importance: Thief Acrobat, Half-Orc, Kenzei, Assasin.
    If not racial completionist, I'd just take away from race tree, but will lose some dps.
    I would HIGHLY recommend getting the Theurgic_Stave from Threnal prior to leveling this build and/or if you are going to use it for past lives.

    End Game Gear:

    Armor : Wildcard – Slot Armored Agility +2
    Goggles : Collective sight crafted Cha 21/Dex 10 – Slot good luck +2
    Helm : Umber Brim – Slot Fear Immunity **
    Neck : Family Recruit Sigil – Slot Sonic Res 40
    Trinket : Blood Rage Chism – slot master's gift ***
    Cloak : City's Champion – Slot Bluff 15
    Belt : Cornerstone Champion - Craft 5 Dex – slot Golem Heart, Strength 8
    Ring : Celestial Ruby ring – Craft 21 Dex – Slot Golem Heart **
    Ring : Celestial Sapphire Ring – Craft 21 Con – Slot Globe
    Glove : Hammerfist – slot Vitality 20
    Boot : Slave lord crafted | Sheltering 45 | Resistance 14 | Vertigo 20 | Quality Con 4
    Bracer : Brand of Kalok Shash – Slot Drac soul gem, Power 200, Golem heart
    Weapon : Moonbeam
    Filigree – 5 prowess, 2 one against many, 2 Sucker Punch (I made the dual rare from threads), 2 treachery, 1 Beast Mantle or any 5 Melee power rare

    * You can very easily use the Belt of Sure Strikes and the Bottle of Smoke as your belt and trinket and the build can do just fine without the need for raid gear. The raid gear is obviously just that much better.
    ** Use Keylock Ring and Tiara of Madness for trap gear swap.
    *** To buff you will have to switch off trinket, cast druid spells, then put it back on. Spells will stay on.

    Destiny: Fury

    Con x1, Boulder's might x3, Acute Instict x3, Damage reduction x1 Malicious Weapon x3, Sense Weakness x3, Overwhelming Force x2, Devastating Blow, Fury Eternal, Strong Swings, Unbridled Fury, Bloodbath

    Twists: Martial Hymn, Meld, Hail of Blows, Legendary Tactics, A dance of flowers

    Notable Stats out of reaper with just self buffs – Yugo dex pot, Martial hymn, Shillelagh, Ram's Might

    9.25 (1d6 +4) +238
    17-20 x 3
    +179
    90 dex, 72 con,
    2388 hp, 36 dodge, 192prr 100mrr
    80% doublestrike (105 after quick strike)
    232 melee power (252 after Opportunity Attack, 302 after prowess activates, 342 if using Orcish Rage)
    100% Helpless damage bonus
    58% fort bypass (83 in precision)
    Sneak attack damage bonus 43
    Sneak attack dice 15d6 (usually averages around 400 total w/ no boosts in R1)
    190% strikethrough
    90 Bluff while fighting with the option to get over 120 with gear swaps

    Notes:
    1. The idea behind this build is that you can do great dps, not the best, but that whatever you are hitting will be CC in some way and hopefully helpless. Sources of CC come from bluff, shiv, improved feint Sweeping strikes, dire charge, Felling the Oak from Legendary moonbeam and Adrenaline. Because you are attacking so fast and Fury sets your vorpal to both 19 and 20, your adrenaline recharge twice as fast. So I can literally run through a quest and almost SPAM adrenaline and I never run out. So anything I'm hitting including a reaper (not doom) is going to be under adrenaline. On top of that the combo is that the build runs in 100% Helpless Damage Bonus so after you hit them with adrenaline, ya whoa....
    2. Survivability is great too since you have the extra HP from the fighter levels and feats which allow you to take Epic Toughness in the long run. I almost can't see myself playing a melee without Improved Uncanny dodge anymore in high reaper as it's a second Meld almost. I have 36% dodge so it makes it 86% for 20 sec. That allows me to emergency tank doom reapers, some bosses and some packs of mobs even up to R9.
    3. I didn't feel cleaves were necessary as strikethrough replaces it. You are still hitting 3 targets every swing if they are close enough together at 190% strikethrough so cleave only really helps you at low levels. On top of that you really don't want to be hitting more than one target anyway cuz you don't want the aggro and you want the one thing you are hitting to be helpless. Cleave works against that idea.
    "The definition of success is rebuffing between deaths with great enthusiasm."
    Creator of The MaulBearian build
    Chippacabre, Chippotle, Chippmunk Funk, Chippinater, Chippin Dale, Chippling - Leader of Upper Caves of Anthia on Ghallanda

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    I've had bigger crits around 100k but I just liked how this video came out. Gish is being debuffed with dust and shattered device and vulnerable.



    Ended up tanking a Vengeance buffed Doom Reaper here on R8 ToEE.



    Here is the Bebolith fight in that same R8 ToEE. Shows survivability and R8 dps w/o any debuffs or helplessness.

    Last edited by chipotle47; 08-26-2020 at 02:38 PM.
    "The definition of success is rebuffing between deaths with great enthusiasm."
    Creator of The MaulBearian build
    Chippacabre, Chippotle, Chippmunk Funk, Chippinater, Chippin Dale, Chippling - Leader of Upper Caves of Anthia on Ghallanda

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipotle47 View Post
    Here is the Bebolith fight in that same R8 ToEE. Shows survivability and R8 dps w/o any debuffs or helplessness.
    Nothing against your build, Chip, but for the sake of accuracy, there were Alchemist PRR-lowering debuffs being used on the Bebolith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    Nothing against your build, Chip, but for the sake of accuracy, there were Alchemist PRR-lowering debuffs being used on the Bebolith.
    They are hard to maintain and barely noticeable :P
    "The definition of success is rebuffing between deaths with great enthusiasm."
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipotle47 View Post
    They are hard to maintain and barely noticeable :P
    They are easy to maintain. One lasts like a minute or so, the other only needs to be reapplied every 12 seconds, which just means including it in the bottle-throwing rotation, no problem.

    But it is only -9 PRR, so maybe barely noticeable. Maybe I should stop using them on guild raid night, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    They are easy to maintain. One lasts like a minute or so, the other only needs to be reapplied every 12 seconds, which just means including it in the bottle-throwing rotation, no problem.

    But it is only -9 PRR, so maybe barely noticeable. Maybe I should stop using them on guild raid night, too?
    Lol Ya. Complete waste of glass.
    "The definition of success is rebuffing between deaths with great enthusiasm."
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    Chippacabre, Chippotle, Chippmunk Funk, Chippinater, Chippin Dale, Chippling - Leader of Upper Caves of Anthia on Ghallanda

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