Pushing for max Wisdom

[Smokewolf]

I've the following gear...

Legendary Blessed Vestments
Legendary Hallowed Castigators
Legendary Hallowed Trail
Legendary Collective Sight
Dragon Masque
Legendary Kindred Pendant
Legendary Symbol of the Slave Lords
Legendary Hallowed Trail
Legendary Black Satin Waist
Epic Laurel Helix
Gauntlet of the Iron Council
Legendary Sunken Slippers
Legendary Spinneret

Used all of the Wisdom available from Enhancements.
Applied a +6 Tome and yet, I max out at 76 Wisdom before Reaper points are applied.

How can I raise this higher without breaking the set bonus?

Thanks in advance!

-Smoke

[Lonnbeimnech]

I've the following gear...

Legendary Blessed Vestments
Legendary Hallowed Castigators
Legendary Hallowed Trail
Legendary Collective Sight
Dragon Masque
Legendary Kindred Pendant
Legendary Symbol of the Slave Lords
Legendary Hallowed Trail
Legendary Black Satin Waist
Epic Laurel Helix
Gauntlet of the Iron Council
Legendary Sunken Slippers
Legendary Spinneret

Used all of the Wisdom available from Enhancements.
Applied a +6 Tome and yet, I max out at 76 Wisdom before Reaper points are applied.

How can I raise this higher without breaking the set bonus?

Thanks in advance!

-Smoke

what filigrees have you used?

[Smokewolf]

None so far but I expect the return on investment there to be rather limited.

[A-O]

None so far but I expect the return on investment there to be rather limited.

You can get 13 wisdom from filigrees.

[Smokewolf]

You can get 13 wisdom from filigrees.

How?

[Lonnbeimnech]

How?

8 slots on weapon, 3 on minor artifact thats 11
then theres the +2 stat filigrees, can put one in weapon and one in artifact, total of +13


also not filigree related, can get a Diamond of Festive Wisdom +2 from mabar event, that stacks with equipment, insightful and quality

[Torkzed]

Somewhere on the forums in the last year or so, SirValentine did a good breakdown of max wisdom under a thread about Druids. But I can't find it at the moment.

I modified a Charisma breakdown I had handy to produce the list below. You might want to compare the bonuses you have on your current gear/character set up to this list to see if you can find places to improve.

I don't play divine casters (play arcane caster a lot), but I have to believe that getting your wisdom to at least 100 should not be too high a bar to set for yourself. I suspect that the max sustainable wisdom is in the upper 120s.

*ROUGH GUESS* At Max Wisdom
---------------------------------

Start: 20 (Need Aasimar race)
Level Ups: 7
Tome: 8
--------------------------- 35 from "base" (33 with 6 tome only)

Completionist: 2 (some grind required)
Racial Completionist: 2 (*huge* grind required)
Racial Past Lives: 2 (3 Human, 3 Aasimar)
Primary Class Tree Enhancements: 2
Secondary Class Tree Enhancements: 2
Falconry Tree Enhancements: 1 (can get 1 more at huge AP cost?)
Racial Tree Enhancements: 2 (Aasimar)
Epic Destiny: 6 (might choose to go with as few as 4 here)
Epic Twists: (2-4) not sure this is worth the investment
Reaper: 3-5 (need a lot of points to get 5, but first 3 are fairly easy)
---------------------------- 20-26 from "feats and enhancements" (lots of variables, probably want at least 20 here)

Enhancement Bonus: 22
Insightful Bonus: 10
Exceptional Bonus: 1
Quality Bonus: 5
Profane Bonus: 2
Artifact Bonus: 4
Festive Augment: 2
Sentient Filigrees: 4-13 (big range depending on how you use filigrees...probably not optimal to get 13 here)
Reaper Bonus - Helm: 2 (not likely to have one starting out, but is possible)
Ship Buffs: 2
Yugo Potions: 2 (from Amrath quest favor)
Remnant Potions: 2
Arcane Hymn Twist: 1 (may not use this, but possible)
-----------------------------59 (to maybe as much as 68?) from "items and effects"

Total Wisdom: 114 (max possible closer to 128?)

Subtract 4 for class and racial completionist feats, 2 for racial past lives, 2 for reaper helm, 4 if not Aasimar, and 2 more for only having +6 tome...

...and you still could realistically hit 100 wisdom.

The real story here is that hitting the highest possible stats for your casting ability is a stupidly large grind...

[mikarddo]

My FvS is at 118 wisdom unbuffed in reaper.

+1 from getting +8 tome, Potions +4, reaper hat (I wish) +2, more filigrees +6, more twists +3, epic feats +4 would get me to 138 wisdom and I am sure (slightly) more would be possible.
Some of those choices would be bad though.

[SirValentine]

You can get 13 wisdom from filigrees.

You can get 12 without cheating.

The official release notes are very explicit about the exact cheat you are implying here:

"The same Filigree slotted into your Minor Artifact and Sentient Weapon do not stack with each other"

[SirValentine]

Somewhere on the forums in the last year or so, SirValentine did a good breakdown of max wisdom under a thread about Druids. But I can't find it at the moment.

It's here. Most of the stuff would be the same for a FvS or Clr.

Note that breakdown is actually for getting max DC, not for getting max Wisdom. There's a few ways to get higher Wisdom but lower DCs.

[elvesunited]

You can get 13 wisdom from filigrees.

While it can be done, I went with the

+4 DC / +5 wisdom

Eye of the beholder / Otto's Irrevocable Power sets which also gives me ( not counting rare secondary effects )

+1 spell penetration +4 Concentration +2 will Saves
+11 MRR +3 PRR +1 Constitution +200 spellpoints +12 spellpower

After all what are you maxing wisdom for if not DCs?

[Smokewolf]

Love the detailed replies!