Monkcher in U46

[Vilgeforts]

Hello,
I always wanted to play a monkcher one day, but unfortunately i postponed this decision. Now I am not even sure if this is still possible/playable because i didnt see any monkcher for at least one year. I would be grateful for some feedback on monkchers in current update for both heroics and epics. Thanks in advance.

[Arkat]

It's still possible, they're just not all that great anymore.

The nerf to IPS is one reason. There are other reasons.

[Vilgeforts]

How would you create that build? Should it be pure monk with elven AA, or some split with fighter or ranger for feats?

[Vilgeforts]

I am thinking about 6rgr for manyshot and early access to AA, then either 14mnk and WIS to hit and dmg from falconer or 12mnk and 2fvs silver flame for WIS to hit and dmg. Elf so i can use AA cores at epics...

[Arkat]

How would you create that build? Should it be pure monk with elven AA, or some split with fighter or ranger for feats?

I'd go pure Elven AA Monk (DEX).

If you don't want to go Elf, go Aasimar Monk14/Ranger6 (WIS).

Regardless, jack up your AA DCs and banish/smite/phantasmal/paralyze everything.

[Vilgeforts]

I'd go pure Elven AA Monk (DEX).

If you don't want to go Elf, go Aasimar Monk14/Ranger6 (WIS).

Regardless, jack up your AA DCs and banish/smite/phantasmal/paralyze everything.

It would be hard to take all important feats with monk and play AA early though

[unbongwah]

Now I am not even sure if this is still possible/playable because i didnt see any monkcher for at least one year.

What happened to monkchers is Inquisitive came out. Now Inquisitives are old-hat post-nerfs and it's all...I dunno, Vile Chemist dagger throwers or whatever the cool kids run at endgame for ranged DPS.

If you still want to play a monkcher, you have the same options you always did, with the same pros & cons. A few options:

• monk 20: maxed-out Doubleshot bonus from Ten Thousand Stars and full access to Ninja tree. Probably your best option for a bow+shuriken build (Manyshot then switch to shurikens): something like 41 Ninja / 14 elf / 25 AA (or reverse the AA / Ninja AP split). Might work well in Shiradi now?
• monk 6 / ranger 6: lowers your TTS bonus to add Sniper Shot to your combat rotation; plus three free ranged feats. Remaining 8 levels can be more monk or more ranger or a third class for an HTR.
• monk 6+ / FvS 10+: natively supports WIS to damage from Knowledge of Battle and access to Warsoul bonuses. Lower DPS than the first two options but more self-sufficient due to FvS buffs & heals.

12mnk and 2fvs silver flame for WIS to hit and dmg

Knowledge of Battle only applies if at least half of your class levels are FvS; i.e., you need to be at least FvS 10. Divine Will should work with just a FvS splash though.

[majorhavoc]

Hello,
I always wanted to play a monkcher one day, but unfortunately i postponed this decision. Now I am not even sure if this is still possible/playable because i didnt see any monkcher for at least one year. I would be grateful for some feedback on monkchers in current update for both heroics and epics. Thanks in advance.

I was thinking the same, so I started playing with a planner, here is a first stab at a wisdom based build with trap capability.

Any comments & or improvements would be appreciated.

AA Monk Traper
18/2 Monk/Rogue
Lawful Good Wood Elf




Level Order


1. Rogue . . . . . 6. Monk. . . . . .11. Monk. . . . . .16. Monk
2. Monk . . . . . .7. Monk . . . . . 12. Monk . . . . . 17. Monk
3. Monk . . . . . .8. Monk . . . . . 13. Monk . . . . . 18. Monk
4. Monk . . . . . .9. Monk . . . . . 14. Monk . . . . . 19. Monk
5. Monk . . . . . 10. Monk . . . . . 15. Monk . . . . . 20. Rogue




Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
Strength. . . . .8. . . .+8. . . .4: WIS
Dexterity . . . 14. . . .+8. . . .8: WIS
Constitution. . 14. . . .+8. . . 12: WIS
Intelligence. . 14. . . .+8. . . 16: WIS
Wisdom. . . . . 18. . . .+8. . . 20: WIS
Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+8. . . 24: WIS
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: WIS


Skills
. . . . . R .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .R
. . . . . 1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Disable . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 . . . . . . . . 6 .23
Search. . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 . . . . . . . . 6 .23
Spot. . . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1. 23
Concent . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 3. 3. 3. 3. 2. . .22
Jump. . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. . .20
UMD . . . 4 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ . . 13
Heal. . . 2 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ . . 11
Open Lo . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
Listen. . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
Diplo . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
Balance . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .40 .7 .7 .7 .7 .7 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .9 .9 .9 .9 .9 13




Feats


.1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
.2 Monk . : Dodge
.3. . . . : Completionist
.3 Monk . : Zen Archery
.6. . . . : Rapid Shot
.7 Monk . : Ten Thousand Stars
.9. . . . : Manyshot
12. . . . : Improved Critical: Ranged
15. . . . : Precise Shot
18. . . . : Improved Precise Shot
21 Epic . : Combat Archery
24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Holy Strike
27 Epic . : Burst of Glacial Wrath
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Mass Frog
30 Epic . : Watchful Eye
30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild


.4 Monk . : Path of Harmonious Balance




Enhancements (82+14 of 80+14 AP) Errors


Elf-Arcane Archer (41 AP)

• Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows, Mystical Archer
  
  1. Energy of the Wild III, Flaming Arrows
  2. Force Arrows III, Elemental Damage
  3. Terror Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
  4. Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows, Smiting Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
  5. Moonbow, Arrow of Slaying, Elemental Damage, Runebow

Wood Elf (28 AP)

• Elven Accuracy I, Dexterity, Elven Accuracy II, Dexterity, Elven Accuracy III
  
  1. Elven Weapon Training I
  2. Enchantment Lore III, Elven Weapon Training II, Arcanum II
  3. Elven Weapon Training III, Arcane Archer
  4. Through the Branches, Elven Weapon Training IV, Skill

Falconry (27 AP)

• Summon Avian Companion: Grey Owl, Ability Score: Wisdom, Well Rounded, Ability Score II: Wisdom
  
  1. Practiced Accuracy II, Out in Nature III
  2. Killer Instinct I, Action Boost: Sprint III
  3. Killer Instinct II, Conditioning, Eyes of the Eagle
  4. Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy II

Destiny (25 of 24 AP) (Errors)


Shiradi Champion

1. Healing Spring II, Wisdom
2. Prism, Wisdom
3. Rainbow, Wisdom
4. Double Rainbow, Wisdom
5. Nerve Venom III, Wisdom
6. Audience with the Queen, Hunt's End, Wisdom

Twists of Fate (35 fate points)

1. Martial Hymn (Tier 4 Fatesinger)
2. Tsunami (Tier 3 Primal)
3. School Specialist: Enchantment (Tier 2 Magister)
4. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
5. Wisdom (Tier 1 Primal)