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    Default Need help Fighter1/paladin4/cleric15

    So I'll post details below on the build but basically the dilemma is I'm not sure if I should take 5 paladin for the tier 5 enchantments in sacred defender with 14 cleric so I can get final domain feat or take 15 cleric 4 Pali which gives me access to lvl 8 cleric spells
    Overall the goal of the build is a tank that can heal the party and do decent damage

    Also torn between domain of strength which boost strength and uses strength as the mod for reflex saves also gives immunity to trip and stun OR take domain of the protector for perma shield, radiant forcefield spell, and AC PRR MRR boost equal to cleric level (14,15)


    Xilvers Rayleigh 32 point build

    PDK-Fighter1/pali4/cleric15
    or pali5/cleric14??

    Str 15
    Dex 8
    Con 15
    Int 8
    Wis 16
    Char 14

    Lvl 4 +1str lvl 8 +1str lvl 12 +1str lvl 16 +1wis lvl 20 +1wis

    Skills
    (All skill points into heal and UMD)
    +2 Tomb for concentration (+5 at lvl 20 stacks)

    Enchantment trees
    Pali-sacred defender, knights of the chalice
    Racial-PDK
    Cleric-radiant servant
    Any extra AP
    Fighter-vanguard, kensei
    Falconry

    Deity (maul)?* Domain (protector or strength)??

    Feats lvl 1
    -power attack
    -two-handed fighting
    -shield mastery

    Feat lvl 3
    -brutal throw

    Feat lvl 6
    -stunning blow

    Feat lvl 9
    -improved two-handed fighting

    Feat lvl 12
    -improved critical: bludgeoning

    Feat lvl 15
    -greater two-handed fighting

    Feat lvl 18
    -improved shield mastery

    EPICS
    ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by holloweater View Post
    Overall the goal of the build is a tank that can heal the party and do decent damage
    So here's the thing: you've basically set three goals for yourself - healer, tank, DPS - which are at cross purposes with each other. Even just sticking to the cleric / paladin split:
    • Healer: tier-5 Radiant Servant, full metamagics to boost radiant bursts, with party-friendly domain like, well, Healing
    • DPS: tier-5 Knight of the Chalice, Silvanus + War domain for Holy Sword (mauls), full THF chain
    • Tank: tier-5 Sacred Defender, S&B, focused on high AC/PRR/MRR/threat bonuses, with a defensive domain like Protection


    I suggest you study Axel's Silvanus build and ask yourself what you want to do different / better than his build does - and just as importantly, what you're willing to give up. E.g., want better melee DPS at the expense of party healing and higher spells? Paladin 5 / cleric 15 using tier-5 KotC.
    Last edited by unbongwah; 07-04-2020 at 02:54 PM.
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