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    Default Dwarf Enhancements that Works in Animal Form

    I am trying to create a dwarf druid wolf build.
    How do I know what works and what won't work in animal form?

    Which ones of the below works in animal form:
    - Dwarven Tactics
    - Dwarven Armor Mastery
    - Dwarven Weapon Training
    - TYWA
    - Stand Like Stone

    Any Druid build for a Dwarf you recommend?

    Thanks.
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    A dwarf wolf? Dwarves are already hairy enough

    Seriously though, I believe all the enhancements you mentioned should work in wolf form. Most of what doesn't are things related to combat styles. You can use anything that changes your base damage stat (TYWA), adds to base damage/crit profile, DC's (pretty sure on this one but never actually checked), increases max dex bonus, or basically anything that doesn't require a specific type of weapon (you get the stats of your weapon(s) but are not really using them) so THF (you will still get the 1.5x damage but nothing else), SWF, TWF are useless in wolf form.
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    Well, thing is I read somewhere many people saying most of it won't work, including unbongwah saying that TYWA don't work with animal form.

    So I really need confirmation on that.

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    Just popped on and made dwarf druid, all the enhancements you asked about are indeed working in wolf form. I think I remember a time a while back when there were some issues but looks like they got fixed.

    Cheers
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    Thanks a lot mate.


    How did you do to check it?
    How can I learn to check by myself?

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    I had an open character slot on a server that I have veteran II unlocked so I started a dwarf druid at lv 7, got an axe and armor (to check the attack/damage and AC/max dex bonus), switched into wolf form, and then just started adding the enhancements. Whenever I got to one of the ones you asked about I took note of the corresponding numbers on my character/inventory sheets then added the enhancement and clicked 'accept' and see if the numbers changed.

    For example (all tested while in wolf form):
    For Dwarven Tactics I moused over sunder on my toolbar to see the DC, added tactics in enhancement tree, checked again and saw the DC went up.
    For Dwarven Armor Mastery, check the Max Dex Bonus of armor before and after.
    For Dwarven Wepon Training and TYWA, check the damage in the weapon description before and after.
    For Stand Like Stone, simply train it, use it, and see if the numbers change.
    Last edited by Buddha5440; 06-27-2020 at 11:28 AM.
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    Will try to replicate that.

    Thanks for your help.

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    My pleasure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vychos View Post
    Well, thing is I read somewhere many people saying most of it won't work, including unbongwah saying that TYWA don't work with animal form.
    You must've been looking at an old thread, because AFAICT all of the dwarf enhancements work in animal forms, including TYWA and the Strikethrough bonuses to dwarven axes if you're S&B.
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    Yes, it was an old thread, thanks for the clarification.
    I thought it was better to ask than go ahead in the build without been sure.

    Good to Know ,
    Thanks.
    Last edited by Vychos; 06-27-2020 at 05:06 PM.

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