Repecing my FvS

[Mendoza]

Hello all! I just started playing again after a long hiatus (7 years!) And I see much has changed. I also see that I was really bad at building characters.

My question is this: Should I use one of the hearts I have to respec or just bash my head against the wall and get to level 20 to do one of the better reincarnations? Currently my FvS is at lvl 10 (haven't taken it yet though) and has little solo ability it seems. When I made the character originally I was focused on healing mainly. But now that I really don't have anyone to play with I was thinking about maybe trying to find a good solo build.

Character is an Elf if that matters.

[Discpsycho]

Welcome back!

Caster FvS has gotten a lot better at soloing, thanks to the Angel of Vengeance revamp. You can Sun Bolt your way through to level 15, at which point you can pull out necro spells and have an ungodly number of spell points for metamagics.

I think it depends most your feats and stats, since AP are easy to swap and skills are pretty much irrelevant for FvS. But ultimately, it's what you enjoy. Try doing a basic respec (swap a feat or two, redo enhancements, hit the auction for a couple of pieces of Wis / Cha / Spellpower gear), take the character into a quest and see if it's fun

[unbongwah]

Caster FvS is great in heroics; Sun Bolt SLA is ridiculously strong. Combine with Beacon of Hope for heals & buffs; Close Wounds SLA can be spammed every second and Beacon of Grace both heals friends and damages undead foes.

Elf opens the option of an AA / Warsoul but honestly that's just making life harder on yourself IMO. I'd play a melee Warsoul using scimitars before I did that.

[Mendoza]

Welcome back!

Caster FvS has gotten a lot better at soloing, thanks to the Angel of Vengeance revamp. You can Sun Bolt your way through to level 15, at which point you can pull out necro spells and have an ungodly number of spell points for metamagics.

I think it depends most your feats and stats, since AP are easy to swap and skills are pretty much irrelevant for FvS. But ultimately, it's what you enjoy. Try doing a basic respec (swap a feat or two, redo enhancements, hit the auction for a couple of pieces of Wis / Cha / Spellpower gear), take the character into a quest and see if it's fun

Yea I will probably just basic respec because this character is kinda **** haha. Like I said, I had no idea what I was doing back then.

Caster FvS is great in heroics; Sun Bolt SLA is ridiculously strong. Combine with Beacon of Hope for heals & buffs; Close Wounds SLA can be spammed every second and Beacon of Grace both heals friends and damages undead foes.

Elf opens the option of an AA / Warsoul but honestly that's just making life harder on yourself IMO. I'd play a melee Warsoul using scimitars before I did that.

Yea Sun Bolt sounds cool, I'll have to pick that up. Do you have any suggestions for a build? I'm gonna do the basic respec to repick all her stuff and I would like something that I can solo with and maybe still be good in groups

Like I said I wasn't good at making builds when I made her, but I've gotten better at theory crafting since then. I could probably make a build and have it be decent now but I figure I look at builds to get a general idea on what I should be doing.

If you're interested here is my chars stats and feats currently,
Str: Base 11, +3 tome (14)
Dex: Base 17, +2 tome (19)
Con: Base 12, +2 tome (14)
Int: Base 8, +2 tome (10)
Wis: Base 14, +2 tome (16)
Cha: Base 15, +2 tome (17)

TWF, Follower of the undying court, energy absorb fire, weapon finesse, emp healing, heavy army prof.

I'm certain I need to respec looking at those feats hah.


-Edit- I looked through this fourm and found a couple of builds I liked the look of, Hopefully this respeced FvS is fun! Wish me luck!

[unbongwah]

If you've been gone for several years, you should have at least one free Heart of Wood in your inventory. So you just need to decide if you want a caster (AoV) or melee (Warsoul) build.

Caster is easy. This is just a quick conversion of a human build I made.

Evoker Angel (U46)
Favored Soul 20
Elf


Stats
               28pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8                4: WIS
Dexterity       10                8: WIS
Constitution    14               12: WIS
Intelligence    10       +2      16: WIS
Wisdom          18               20: WIS
Charisma         8               24: WIS
                                 28: WIS

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spellcr   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal         1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  19
         ------------------------------------------------------------
          8  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3


Feats

 1        : Maximize Spell
 3        : Empower Spell
 6        : Empower Healing Spell
 9        : Quicken Spell
12        : Heighten Spell
15        : Spell Focus: Evocation
18        : Spell Penetration OR Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
21 Epic   : Wellspring of Power OR Arcane Insight
24 Epic   : Master of: Light
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Light OR Guardian Angel
27 Epic   : Burst of Glacial Wrath
28 Destiny: Mass Frog
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Intensify Spell OR Embolden Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Celestia OR Plane of Fire

 2 FavSoul: Knowledge of Battle
 7 FavSoul: Stout of Heart

 5 FavSoul: Energy Absorption: Electricity
10 FavSoul: Energy Absorption: Fire
15 FavSoul: Energy Absorption: Cold OR Acid

 1 Deity  : Follower of: Aureon
 6 Deity  : Aureon's Instruction
20 Deity  : Damage Reduction: Cold Iron


Spells


Nimbus of Light (1), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Soundburst (4), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Searing Light (6), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Holy Smite (8), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Divine Punishment (10), Greater Command (11), <Any>, <Any>
Blade Barrier (12), Heal (13), <Any>
<Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Fire Storm (16), <Any>, <Any>
Implosion (18), Energy Drain (19), Mass Heal (20)


Enhancements (80 AP)

Angel of Vengeance (41 AP)
Font of Power, Shield of Condemnation, Aura of Menace, Summon Archon, Vengeful Magic, Ascendancy: Wisdom
Nimbus of Light III, Scourge III, Smiting
Smiting, Just Reward III
Sun Bolt III, Smiting
Smiting, Intense Faith III
Cometfall III, Evocation Focus, Zealous Faith III, Archon's Fury

Beacon of Hope (31 AP)
Pleasant Disposition, Beacon of Grace, Shining Light, Beacon of Hope, Flight of Glory
Divine Durability III, Spell Critical
Close Wounds III, Hope for Inspiration, Divine Durability III, Spell Critical
Hope for Protection, Spell Critical, Wisdom
Hope for Victory, Optimism, Spell Critical

War Soul (8 AP)
Smite Foe: Melee
Divine Will I, Sacred Touch III
Wall of Steel III

Leveling Guide
AoV0 Font of Power; AoV1 Nimbus of Light I, II, III
AoV1 Scourge I; AoV2 Just Reward I, II, III
AoV0 Shield of Condemnation; AoV1 Scourge II; AoV3 Sun Bolt I, II
AoV3 Sun Bolt III; AoV1 Scourge III; BoH0 Pleasant Disposition; BoH1 Divine Durability I
BoH1 Divine Durability II; BoH1 Spell Critical; BoH0 Beacon of Grace
AoV0 Aura of Menace; BoH2 Close Wounds I, II, III
BoH1 Divine Durability III; BoH0 Shining Light; AoV1 Smiting
AoV2 Smiting; AoV3 Smiting
AoV4 Intense Faith I, II
AoV4 Intense Faith III; AoV4 Smiting
(Bank 4 AP)
AoV0 Summon Archon; AoV5 Cometfall I, II, III; AoV5 Archon's Fury; AoV5 Zealous Faith I, II, III
AoV5 Evocation Focus; BoH3 Wisdom
BoH2 Hope for Inspiration; BoH3 Hope for Protection
BoH2 Divine Durability I, II, III; BoH0 Beacon of Hope
BoH4 Hope for Victory; BoH4 Optimism; War0 Smite Foe: Melee
War1 Sacred Touch I, II, III; War1 Divine Will I
AoV0 Vengeful Magic; War2 Wall of Steel I, II, III
BoH2 Spell Critical; BoH3 Spell Critical
AoV0 Ascendancy: Wisdom; BoH4 Spell Critical; BoH0 Flight of Glory


Destiny (24 AP)

Exalted Angel
Avenging Light, Radiant Power III, Healing Power III
(none)
Shadows Upon You, Piercing Spellcraft III
Rebuke Foe, Blood and Radiance III, Excoriate
(none)
Sun Bolt, Divine Wrath

Twists of Fate (22 fate points)
Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
Piercing Spellcraft (Tier 3 Magister)
School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)

Melee Warsoul involves more tradeoffs and TBH is more of a niche/flavor build (read as: suboptimal hybrid). You can either stick with Undying Court (scimitars) or switch to Sovereign Host (longswords) or Onatar (warhammers). Knight's Training feat would give the latter more DPS, but it costs an extra feat on a build which is already pretty short on them. Right now I think the least bad melee Warsoul option is wood elf using falchions + Faith of the Forest; though it's obviously weaker melee DPS than a 2H paladin is these days.

[Mendoza]

-Edit- I looked through this fourm and found a couple of builds I liked the look of, Hopefully this respeced FvS is fun! Wish me luck!

Oh man! So glad I respecd! She is so much fun now Thanks yall!

[Mendoza]

If you've been gone for several years, you should have at least one free Heart of Wood in your inventory. So you just need to decide if you want a caster (AoV) or melee (Warsoul) build.

Caster is easy. This is just a quick conversion of a human build I made.

Evoker Angel (U46)
Favored Soul 20
Elf


Stats
               28pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8                4: WIS
Dexterity       10                8: WIS
Constitution    14               12: WIS
Intelligence    10       +2      16: WIS
Wisdom          18               20: WIS
Charisma         8               24: WIS
                                 28: WIS

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spellcr   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal         1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  19
         ------------------------------------------------------------
          8  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3


Feats

 1        : Maximize Spell
 3        : Empower Spell
 6        : Empower Healing Spell
 9        : Quicken Spell
12        : Heighten Spell
15        : Spell Focus: Evocation
18        : Spell Penetration OR Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
21 Epic   : Wellspring of Power OR Arcane Insight
24 Epic   : Master of: Light
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Light OR Guardian Angel
27 Epic   : Burst of Glacial Wrath
28 Destiny: Mass Frog
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Intensify Spell OR Embolden Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Celestia OR Plane of Fire

 2 FavSoul: Knowledge of Battle
 7 FavSoul: Stout of Heart

 5 FavSoul: Energy Absorption: Electricity
10 FavSoul: Energy Absorption: Fire
15 FavSoul: Energy Absorption: Cold OR Acid

 1 Deity  : Follower of: Aureon
 6 Deity  : Aureon's Instruction
20 Deity  : Damage Reduction: Cold Iron


Spells


Nimbus of Light (1), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Soundburst (4), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Searing Light (6), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Holy Smite (8), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Divine Punishment (10), Greater Command (11), <Any>, <Any>
Blade Barrier (12), Heal (13), <Any>
<Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Fire Storm (16), <Any>, <Any>
Implosion (18), Energy Drain (19), Mass Heal (20)


Enhancements (80 AP)

Angel of Vengeance (41 AP)
Font of Power, Shield of Condemnation, Aura of Menace, Summon Archon, Vengeful Magic, Ascendancy: Wisdom
Nimbus of Light III, Scourge III, Smiting
Smiting, Just Reward III
Sun Bolt III, Smiting
Smiting, Intense Faith III
Cometfall III, Evocation Focus, Zealous Faith III, Archon's Fury

Beacon of Hope (31 AP)
Pleasant Disposition, Beacon of Grace, Shining Light, Beacon of Hope, Flight of Glory
Divine Durability III, Spell Critical
Close Wounds III, Hope for Inspiration, Divine Durability III, Spell Critical
Hope for Protection, Spell Critical, Wisdom
Hope for Victory, Optimism, Spell Critical

War Soul (8 AP)
Smite Foe: Melee
Divine Will I, Sacred Touch III
Wall of Steel III

Leveling Guide
AoV0 Font of Power; AoV1 Nimbus of Light I, II, III
AoV1 Scourge I; AoV2 Just Reward I, II, III
AoV0 Shield of Condemnation; AoV1 Scourge II; AoV3 Sun Bolt I, II
AoV3 Sun Bolt III; AoV1 Scourge III; BoH0 Pleasant Disposition; BoH1 Divine Durability I
BoH1 Divine Durability II; BoH1 Spell Critical; BoH0 Beacon of Grace
AoV0 Aura of Menace; BoH2 Close Wounds I, II, III
BoH1 Divine Durability III; BoH0 Shining Light; AoV1 Smiting
AoV2 Smiting; AoV3 Smiting
AoV4 Intense Faith I, II
AoV4 Intense Faith III; AoV4 Smiting
(Bank 4 AP)
AoV0 Summon Archon; AoV5 Cometfall I, II, III; AoV5 Archon's Fury; AoV5 Zealous Faith I, II, III
AoV5 Evocation Focus; BoH3 Wisdom
BoH2 Hope for Inspiration; BoH3 Hope for Protection
BoH2 Divine Durability I, II, III; BoH0 Beacon of Hope
BoH4 Hope for Victory; BoH4 Optimism; War0 Smite Foe: Melee
War1 Sacred Touch I, II, III; War1 Divine Will I
AoV0 Vengeful Magic; War2 Wall of Steel I, II, III
BoH2 Spell Critical; BoH3 Spell Critical
AoV0 Ascendancy: Wisdom; BoH4 Spell Critical; BoH0 Flight of Glory


Destiny (24 AP)

Exalted Angel
Avenging Light, Radiant Power III, Healing Power III
(none)
Shadows Upon You, Piercing Spellcraft III
Rebuke Foe, Blood and Radiance III, Excoriate
(none)
Sun Bolt, Divine Wrath

Twists of Fate (22 fate points)
Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
Piercing Spellcraft (Tier 3 Magister)
School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)

Melee Warsoul involves more tradeoffs and TBH is more of a niche/flavor build (read as: suboptimal hybrid). You can either stick with Undying Court (scimitars) or switch to Sovereign Host (longswords) or Onatar (warhammers). Knight's Training feat would give the latter more DPS, but it costs an extra feat on a build which is already pretty short on them. Right now I think the least bad melee Warsoul option is wood elf using falchions + Faith of the Forest; though it's obviously weaker melee DPS than a 2H paladin is these days.

Sweet, that actually looks pretty close to what I've done to her so far except I went with charisma because I'm also gonna use her to sell my items. I still have a +20 heart and a regular heart sitting on that character as well so I can always respec again if necessary.

Also, she has a raiders reward box in her inventory, what should I get from it?

[Matuse]

You definitely do not need to waste a reincarnation heart. Resetting your enhancements and going a different route will be quite sufficient. Then once you get Blade Barrier, it's all over. You can skate your way to 20 without even trying. Blade Barrier is not super great in epics - the damage doesn't scale as well as it should - but for heroic it is throwing stuff into a wood chipper.

[unbongwah]

Also, she has a raiders reward box in her inventory, what should I get from it?

https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Raider%27s_Reward_Box

All of the CitW weapons are considered obsolete now, but hey - free is free. Can't beat the price.

For a caster the only option is Twilight, which I always thought of as a wizard staff and is probably worse than what's available elsewhere. So I'd probably save the box for a future melee life: e.g., Breach if you decide to do a wood elf paladin or Warsoul someday.

[Matuse]

The raider's box is still good for the commendations of heroism, even if you don't want the weapons.

[Nazanin]

Would def take the commendations so you can buy ml24 +2 dc augments in gianthold