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    Dear all,

    these days I developed a simple & fast to use tool for managing the endless Hoard I gather.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hc...p_rlRDNUWzLMfX

    For a screenshot:

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LZ...Os9G7HXVWLjecw

    And a brief Manual in PDF
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Hg...ew?usp=sharing

    Please give it a try and post feedback here.
    If the tool gets enough attention and demand I will devote more time to cover your requests.

    The main usage for this tool is to replace any Excel like files we all might be keeping for our items :-D
    A second usage is to help you choose items that their abilities do not conflict. This is under construction though...

    Notable Features:
    Version includes AUTO Update for the database.
    Keep track your character inventory with Drag & Drop!
    Import your items using text. Or images and an OCR. (Check the manual)

    Next updates will be on the database.
    Upcoming new feature: Progress the Equip Report further.

    Cheerios and Enjoy
    Last edited by Igognito; 05-20-2020 at 01:55 PM. Reason: New Release Minor Corrections and Additions

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    Geez, I missed this post completely.
    This turned out nicely. Thank you so much.

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    Cool! Sounds like a tool I need, since I'm a horder!
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    Thank you Titus and Dulcimerist for posting :-)
    The past week I used a lot the tool and have gathered a long list of improvements to do ;-)

    I will post the newest version when it is ready. If by any chance you have any comments/suggestions I will be very happy to hear them.

    Minimum new Features for New Version:
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    One new feature will be for the app to auto update its Database!
    I will not give the work for making the app auto update unless I see some interest in the thread.

    New versions of the app will need to be downloaded.
    New versions of the database the app will download after a verification message.

    Fix tab/enter handling on all forms (had missed that last time)

    Improve the search in items functionality

    I will also add the "In Sets" functionality that will help you equip multiple characters from the same collection by indicating u what is in use and where.

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    My personal experience with tool:
    I currently have equipped a lvl 9, lvl 11, lvl 13, lvl 16 and a lvl 17 all from the same collection and getting 90% out of my items to each character.

    That was possible because of the tool... I have like more than 400 named items to choose from and more than 40 crafted items plus I used to have a lot of random items (now I keep very few of them)

    Also it has made really easy for me to check what I have on loot time. Allowing me to pass a lot of items to others and ask for items I dont have :-)

    Cheerios

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    I hadn't seen this either - I'm definitely intrigued!

    At first glance, and before the coffee has kicked in and before I've actually downloade/played with this, but a couple questions (suggestions?)...

    o Some accounts have MANY alts (I have "only" 9 on my main, but the max is 30+). Is there a way to show/track which alts are holding (not "equipped", just storing) the different items?

    o Is this (currently) only for Named Items? Could the "Custom" items include Cannith Crafted? Could they include droploot? (ymmv, but vorpal crossbows and low-ML keen weapons come to mind). Your exampe of a "crafted" item is an upgraded Named Item, which is why I ask.

    o Some players have mule accounts - I do. Is there a way to break this down to show what items are stored on different accounts?


    o At first thought, I could see at least 2 more (sortable/searchable!) columns added - Account & Character. Maybe set it up so these are optional (i.e. they could be "added/removed" via a control panel to suit the user).

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    I hadn't seen this either - I'm definitely intrigued!

    At first glance, and before the coffee has kicked in and before I've actually downloade/played with this, but a couple questions (suggestions?)...

    o Some accounts have MANY alts (I have "only" 9 on my main, but the max is 30+). Is there a way to show/track which alts are holding (not "equipped", just storing) the different items?

    o Is this (currently) only for Named Items? Could the "Custom" items include Cannith Crafted? Could they include droploot? (ymmv, but vorpal crossbows and low-ML keen weapons come to mind). Your exampe of a "crafted" item is an upgraded Named Item, which is why I ask.

    o Some players have mule accounts - I do. Is there a way to break this down to show what items are stored on different accounts?


    o At first thought, I could see at least 2 more (sortable/searchable!) columns added - Account & Character. Maybe set it up so these are optional (i.e. they could be "added/removed" via a control panel to suit the user).
    All are great questions and all are answered with a yes!

    Lets start with the simplest: You can add any item you want! Most of the named ones are just already in there!
    I have added more than 40 crafted items in my collection and 1-2 random ones that I actually use (speed/feather fall)

    ps: I have fixed Add Item editor to be better when you use.

    I had considered at start to make Account/Character columns. But after a bit of though I found them redundant as you can use: Stored for the character name and u can add the account name if you want to.

    The app reasoning is Multiple Accounts = Multiple Collection files as trading among accounts is limited to unbound items.
    But still you can use 1 Collection file and add the account at Stored field as a remark.
    My original reasoning for multiple Alts, was to use the field Stored to mark to whom the item is stored at.

    Still while I was using the app I found out there is a better way: If you make Equipped sets and store it with a name then u could use that to know who has what!
    Also in the version I prepare now, this will be automatically marked on a new table column which will be searchable from Stored filter.

    This will allow you to know also who uses what! Allowing you to have all your alts well equipped from the remaining items ;-). One remark on this...
    My Equip Column allows you to Equip as many items as you want... It is not a problem neither limits you on the item slots. Reasoning: We often carry items to swap for incorporeal, diplo/bluff/ skills etc! In the end you want to know what is all your usable equipment and not what u wear in that moment.

    Stored field search is going to be improved in the next version. So if you put 2+ stuff (for example Account1 Character5) it will search for both separately and you can choose for all or any of the search keywords. Generally, I have improved the filtering capability :-).

    Question: Should I make Stored a multiline field? Probably Yes! (will go on the list)

    The app needs to be tested in order for us to find the ideal ways of using it and presenting the info. So please play with it and send me comments!!!

    ps: I will ensure that what files you make will be transferable to future versions at all times.
    ps2: Also if you have your items kept in an excel file or anywhere in the new version I might implement a simple import. (Copy column/paste button in my app...)

    Known Bug that will be fixed by next version: If you add an item, equip it or add it on a collection and then delete the item it will break the program :/ This will be fixed and a deleted item will be ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igognito View Post
    Dear all,

    these days I developed a simple & fast to use tool for managing the endless Hoard I gather.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hc...p_rlRDNUWzLMfX

    For a screenshot:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LZ...Os9G7HXVWLjecw

    And a brief Manual in PDF
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Hg...ew?usp=sharing

    Please give it a try and post feedback here.
    If the tool gets enough attention and demand I will devote more time to cover your requests.

    The main usage for this tool is to replace any Excel like files we all might be keeping for our items :-D
    A second usage is to help you choose items that their abilities do not conflict. This is under construction though...

    Newest version includes AUTO Update for the database.
    Next updates will be on the database.
    Upcoming new feature: Import from within the game! (Not the most user friendly way but better than nothing!)

    Cheerios and Enjoy
    This seems made just for me!

    Is there an option to divide equipment among the toons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igognito View Post
    Dear all,

    these days I developed a simple & fast to use tool for managing the endless Hoard I gather.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hc...p_rlRDNUWzLMfX

    For a screenshot:

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LZ...Os9G7HXVWLjecw

    And a brief Manual in PDF
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Hg...ew?usp=sharing

    Please give it a try and post feedback here.
    If the tool gets enough attention and demand I will devote more time to cover your requests.

    The main usage for this tool is to replace any Excel like files we all might be keeping for our items :-D
    A second usage is to help you choose items that their abilities do not conflict. This is under construction though...

    Notable Features:
    Version includes AUTO Update for the database.
    Keep track your character inventory with Drag & Drop!
    Import your items using text. Or images and an OCR. (Check the manual)

    Next updates will be on the database.
    Upcoming new feature: Progress the Equip Report further.

    Cheerios and Enjoy
    I cant wait to see how this works!!! Like your brilliant!!!

    Sweetenuf!

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    Cool Yay

    Just saw this post and very excited to try it out. I am such a hoarder with a ton of mules and regular playing characters. I've tried so many diff ways to keep track - so thankful you decided to create an app!

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    I downloaded the app and am in the process of experimenting with it. I do have an initial critique though. Is it necessary to require Net Framework 4.8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousNonsense View Post
    I downloaded the app and am in the process of experimenting with it. I do have an initial critique though. Is it necessary to require Net Framework 4.8?
    That is what I used to develop it... But I could check what is the oldest version of .Net that compiles it.

    Cheerios

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    Question Error Message...

    While using this program, I Equipped and unequipped an item, possibly tried to move it from Shard bank to a character's inventory and back and now I get this error when I try to adjust anything that was equipped, regardless of the item:

    =======================================
    = DataGridView Default Error Dialog
    =
    =The following exception occurred in the DataGridView:
    =SystemArguement Exception: DataGridViewComboBoxCell
    =value is not valid.
    =
    =To replace this default dialog please handle the DataError
    =event.
    =
    =======================================

    Please excuse my horrible text version of the error message. I can't post pictures. Does this mean that I will have to delete and recreate my original file? I put a few hours into it, but if I can salvage it, that would be wonderful...

    Thank you again for this wonderful program that we all have been needing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMTrojan View Post
    While using this program, I Equipped and unequipped an item, possibly tried to move it from Shard bank to a character's inventory and back and now I get this error when I try to adjust anything that was equipped, regardless of the item:

    =======================================
    = DataGridView Default Error Dialog
    =
    =The following exception occurred in the DataGridView:
    =SystemArguement Exception: DataGridViewComboBoxCell
    =value is not valid.
    =
    =To replace this default dialog please handle the DataError
    =event.
    =
    =======================================

    Please excuse my horrible text version of the error message. I can't post pictures. Does this mean that I will have to delete and recreate my original file? I put a few hours into it, but if I can salvage it, that would be wonderful...

    Thank you again for this wonderful program that we all have been needing!
    Hi, no worries your collection is safe.

    Worst case scenario you lost one item move.

    Please open the about page (the Soul Stone icon) and tell me what version you have.
    Also open the Settings page and activate check for updates.

    I will try to find your bug and correct it tomorrow!

    Cheers

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    I did what you said. V1.0.0.3

    Quote Originally Posted by Igognito View Post
    Hi, no worries your collection is safe.

    Worst case scenario you lost one item move.

    Please open the about page (the Soul Stone icon) and tell me what version you have.
    Also open the Settings page and activate check for updates.

    I will try to find your bug and correct it tomorrow!

    Cheers

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    Thumbs up additional features to add?

    Quote Originally Posted by Igognito View Post
    Dear all,

    these days I developed a simple & fast to use tool for managing the endless Hoard I gather.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hc...p_rlRDNUWzLMfX

    For a screenshot:

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LZ...Os9G7HXVWLjecw

    And a brief Manual in PDF
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Hg...ew?usp=sharing

    Please give it a try and post feedback here.
    If the tool gets enough attention and demand I will devote more time to cover your requests.

    The main usage for this tool is to replace any Excel like files we all might be keeping for our items :-D
    A second usage is to help you choose items that their abilities do not conflict. This is under construction though...

    Notable Features:
    Version includes AUTO Update for the database.
    Keep track your character inventory with Drag & Drop!
    Import your items using text. Or images and an OCR. (Check the manual)

    Next updates will be on the database.
    Upcoming new feature: Progress the Equip Report further.

    Cheerios and Enjoy
    ---
    Suggestions for addition features:
    Legacy option: as I have several of the old bows from Tor but all I see in the app is the new versions of the Torchered Live wood bow
    *items that were either updated to the a new item it self (example Giant hold Items) or were just revamped and given a new level and augment (example: silver flame bow)
    Mythic: does it have a mythic bonus
    *+1 through +4
    Reaper bonus: does it have one
    *yes/no
    Cosmetic: is it a cosmetic item
    *Yes/NO
    Multiple: is there multiple versions of it?
    *add a duplicate option button and clone base item and clear if its "legacy", mythic, reaper, cometic exclusive
    Exlucsive: yes or no if its and exlusive item
    *Yes/No
    ---

    I think these will be a good addition to your project overall I love it been trying to figure out who has what on my 30+ toons and trying to sort mythic,standard, reaper, exclusive, and cosmetic(with or without clickies, legacy items out from each other so I can keep the legacy and the Reaper+mythic bonus items
    and its slow going
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    I have read the pdf manual and I still don't understand how to use this software. How do I bring up a database of items to select and assign to my various character storage bank, inventory etc.

    I have created a character but that is as far as I can figure things out. Do I have to screenshot lists of items from the game and import them. I see mention of a master database. How do I find that?

    It's ok to laugh but please be kind. I just don't get how to use this utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland_D'Arabel View Post
    I have read the pdf manual and I still don't understand how to use this software. How do I bring up a database of items to select and assign to my various character storage bank, inventory etc.

    I have created a character but that is as far as I can figure things out. Do I have to screenshot lists of items from the game and import them. I see mention of a master database. How do I find that?

    It's ok to laugh but please be kind. I just don't get how to use this utility.
    Dear Roland, no laugh at all...

    First a question: you want to import your items from within DDO? or you have your items selected in The Hoarder and want to assign them to a character?

    For importing check the manual... It is not a simple neither a perfect solution but does the work.
    1) Take a screen shot of each of your Shared banks pages
    2) take a screen shot of each of your TR Cache pages
    3) Link all your inventory items to chat and take a screen shot of their names
    4) Crop the images to only have the item names
    5) feed the images to a free online OCR and get the text back...
    6) In The Hoarder use the Search & Import function (binoculars) to do massive similarity search of the text
    7) Check as Owned the results you want, manually import the rest...

    That was the best I could do for importing :/
    After you make your first database it is easy to maintain it if you just collect 1 Shared bank page per time!
    Crafted items and Random loot you want to import you need to manual add them with the Add Item function.

    For moving around the items just DRAG and DROP them to the correct list.

    For example your characters inventory...

    Tell me up to what point you have reached and I will provide further help if needed :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by rsking View Post
    Suggestions for addition features:
    Legacy option: as I have several of the old bows from Tor but all I see in the app is the new versions of the Torchered Live wood bow
    *items that were either updated to the a new item it self (example Giant hold Items) or were just revamped and given a new level and augment (example: silver flame bow)
    Mythic: does it have a mythic bonus
    *+1 through +4
    Reaper bonus: does it have one
    *yes/no
    Cosmetic: is it a cosmetic item
    *Yes/NO
    Multiple: is there multiple versions of it?
    *add a duplicate option button and clone base item and clear if its "legacy", mythic, reaper, cometic exclusive
    Exlucsive: yes or no if its and exlusive item
    *Yes/No
    You can manually add Mythic "whatever" Boost +1..+4 and any Reaper and any Augment and any other modification at Added Effects.
    While I havent progressed much there all added mythic bonus will be taken in account at the equipped set report.

    Further: you can Craft your own items... There is an Add Item button (has a trinket with a +) or press ctrl+a to add an item.
    Have in mind it first duplicates the selected item but you can clear that and start from a craftable trinket.

    I have not placed enough cosmetics... there is only 1 cosmetic armor... Perhaps I should make Cosmetic as a category. Or add more cosmetics at some point.

    Exclusive will go in my todo list... The items that are exclusive will include it. You for now can add it at notes or added effects where you prefer. Or even at Binding information.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igognito View Post

    Tell me up to what point you have reached and I will provide further help if needed :-)


    Cheers
    Thank you for the reply.

    I haven't reached any point at all. That's the problem.

    Your screen shots show lists of items etc. Where do I find these lists? Do I have to create every single item I own or is there a database you have created that I cannot figure out how to access?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland_D'Arabel View Post
    Thank you for the reply.

    I haven't reached any point at all. That's the problem.

    Your screen shots show lists of items etc. Where do I find these lists? Do I have to create every single item I own or is there a database you have created that I cannot figure out how to access?

    Thanks!
    Wait... when you open the program you dont see the grid full of items?
    please post a screen shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igognito View Post
    Dear Roland, no laugh at all...
    First a question: you want to import your items from within DDO? or you have your items selected in The Hoarder and want to assign them to a character?
    For importing check the manual... It is not a simple neither a perfect solution but does the work.
    1) Take a screen shot of each of your Shared banks pages
    2) take a screen shot of each of your TR Cache pages
    3) Link all your inventory items to chat and take a screen shot of their names
    4) Crop the images to only have the item names
    5) feed the images to a free online OCR and get the text back...
    6) In The Hoarder use the Search & Import function (binoculars) to do massive similarity search of the text
    7) Check as Owned the results you want, manually import the rest...
    Ahh didnt click in my head that this was for TR and Shared bank which wont link in chat......

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