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    Quote Originally Posted by donblas View Post
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    And why does the fact it's a virus mean that you can't "find a cure for it"?

    Have you heard of smallpox? It was a disease caused by a virus with a 30% fatality rate. It is estimated to to have killed half a BILLION people between 1880 and 1980.

    Nobody dies from it now. It doesn't exist. It was a deadly virus that scientists and doctors eradicated by 1980.

    It may be that COVID-19 is harder (or impossible) to eradicate, but the fact that it is a virus doesn't make it safe from being "cured".

    Virus-borne pathogens, like your smallpox example, were eradicated with population-wide vaccinations that halted transmission. Once the 'herd' became immune, the virus was prevented from being passed around.


    If I may quote the WHO:
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    There is no cure for smallpox, but vaccination can be used very effectively to prevent infection from developing if given during a period of up to four days after a person has been exposed to the virus. This is the strategy that was used to eradicate the disease during the 20th century.
    Likewise with Polio. People say it's been "cured", but...
    Quote Originally Posted by WHO
    There is no cure for polio, it can only be prevented. Polio vaccine, given multiple times, can protect a child for life.
    I'm gonna bet that C-bug is gonna be pretty much the same. Infected folks will have to run the course of the disease once they have it. Uninfected folks will be inoculated against it.

    Gonna be interesting how the world handles anti-vac people when an effective vaccine against the C-bug is developed and distributed.
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    Yeah. Viruses mutate, too. Just wish there wasn't such a big scare about this virus. Being careful is good, as it is always. I'm just sad to see how many people are utterly terrified about this (since we've definitely been through much worse).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorrbeania View Post
    I'm not saying that people aren't dying because of this virus, but just how many people die a year when it's cold and flu season? And if this is so scary, then why haven't we done the same thing when it is cold and flu season?
    The flu infected ~35 million people in the US last year and killed ~34,000. COVID has infected about ~5 million and killed ~170,000 in half that time and is still getting worse despite everything that has been done. We're talking about order's of magnitude difference even with substantial interventions. It's also now the third leading cause of death in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorrbeania View Post
    I'm not saying that people aren't dying because of this virus, but just how many people die a year when it's cold and flu season? And if this is so scary, then why haven't we done the same thing when it is cold and flu season?
    Why don't you look it up? Here, I guess I'll do it for you.

    https://www.health.com/condition/col...flu-every-year

    Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu.
    We will probably hit 200,000+ deaths with the Covid-19, and that's WITH all the mask-wearing, social distancing, shutting down the economy steps. It could have been worse (and may still be worse).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Why don't you look it up? Here, I guess I'll do it for you.

    https://www.health.com/condition/col...flu-every-year



    We will probably hit 200,000+ deaths with the Covid-19, and that's WITH all the mask-wearing, social distancing, shutting down the economy steps. It could have been worse (and may still be worse).
    The USA alone is on-track for COVID-19 and COVID-19 complicated deaths to reach 350K before a vaccine is distributed to 100M+ of the population in 2021. It's accelerating by about 10K deaths every 2 weeks currently and if influenza complications with COVID-19 double-up, it will probably accelerate to 50K in a month at its peak, provided social distancing and masks are worn by a majority of the population.

    I'm waiting to have my antibody test come through -- it sucked. I was bed-ridden for 2+ weeks in July. About 1/3 of survivors have long-lasting affects. I didn't lose a lung/have a transplant, etc or anything, but I have some side effects persisting after 8+ weeks since the peak of my symptoms. I might wind up being one of the long haulers.

    This virus is not good. It's not influenza. You can recover from influenza and truly recover. I've got a handful of symptoms that don't seem to want to go away and they're not life-threatening but they are life-altering.

    The flue never made me alter my life after I got better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Why don't you look it up? Here, I guess I'll do it for you.

    https://www.health.com/condition/col...flu-every-year

    Thanks for the info!
    Sincerely, Zorrbeania

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    Stay healthy folks!

    While Covid can be serious for many people leading to serious illness and even death. I've found the it hits most of us about as harshly as a tough flu, if that.

    It's still important for each of us to do our part to mitigate the spread of this as much as we can. I've been playing D&D and Pathfinder online only for the past year and half which for me isn't nearly as fun as having everyone at the house for what seems like days on end just playing.

    Covid has really impacted all our lives but I don't feel like it's the big global pandemic the news made us believe it would be.

    Currently, I've been trying to get a new job and I have to say covid has made it kind of tough lately. I passed a background check recently but it took almost 10 weeks to return which is far too long IMO and they blamed the time it took on covid. I'm nervous if I don't take this job that I'll have to do another background check and that will take so long that by the time I get the job it will be too late! I read on this website www.backgroundcheckrepair.org/ that the same check can be used for another company depending on the situation.

    My thing is Covid has already given us enough set backs that I really just want to put this all behind me and get back to work again. I've had far too much time off and I feel like Im going insane lol.

    I found a website with some good tips for prevention (which will tell you the same things most of them do but this site makes it very easy to read) https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronav...evention-tips/.

    Good luck to all of you and anyone that can offer advice is appreciated.

    Take care~

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    I won't get into a discussion about vaccines - that's personal, AND it's "politics", which are NOT ALLOWED on these boards. Personally, I do believe they help, but it's also obvious that no one can possibly know (yet) about long-term side effects, so that's a wash for many people. But more importantly, I also believe it's everyone's right to choose whether they want to believe more in science or social responsibility or their fears or arguable counter-theories. ymmv there, and that's fine, you do you.


    So let's stick to what is "known", or at least indicated...

    One of the biggest proven(!) co-factors is general body inflammation, which can be caused by a variety of things, including general poor health. That includes eating a lot of processed food (fast/snack foods), zero exercise, stress, and generally "not taking care of yourself".

    Another statistically proven factor is Vitamin D - aka "sunshine", but also available cheap in over-the-counter vitamin form.

    And zinc creates a very inhospitable environment for viruses in general.

    So...

    • Get (at least) a little exercise every day - anything, just walk or bike to the 7-11 instead of drive.
    • Don't go to the 7-11 - cook your own food. Try to eat better, make your mom proud.
    • Vitamin C (several grams/day)
    • Vitamin D (1/day, or (better!) get out in the sun for a while!)
    • Zinc (good against "viruses" in general)

    And do the whole "handwash/social distance" thing - can't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gam3rfi3nd View Post
    While Covid can be serious for many people leading to serious illness and even death. I've found the it hits most of us about as harshly as a tough flu, if that.....

    Yep, I thought that exact thought, too.

    Having run that gauntlet now, I'm even more convinced that anyone too stubborn to [redacted] ... do whatever it takes to not get this carpfish ... gets exactly what they have coming. Not sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    Stay healthy folks!

    A pretty accurate representation of Remove Disease verbal & somatic spell components.

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    More vaccinated people die than unvaccinated ones, this is the post.

    Thank you Chinese Communist Party.

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    Some dangerous misinformation in the posts above it seems. This should not really be allowed by a responsible company.

    Quote Originally Posted by gam3rfi3nd View Post
    Covid has really impacted all our lives but I don't feel like it's the big global pandemic the news made us believe it would be.
    How you feel doesn't affect how many people die. This global pandemic is the 5th or 6th most deadly in recorded history in terms of the number of deaths.

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    I won't get into a discussion about vaccines - that's personal, AND it's "politics", which are NOT ALLOWED on these boards.
    No mention of masks?

    The effectiveness of proven vaccines is no more political than your list other of other, less effective, prevention measures. Vaccination status also affects everyone else, not just the individual who is or isn't vaccinated. Preventing the spread of the disease by vaccination is a thing good citizens should do. That's not politics, it's medicine and helping society out.

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    More vaccinated people die than unvaccinated ones, this is the post.
    This is of course possibly accurate but misleading. Far more people are vaccinated than are unvaccinated and the vaccinated include many of the most vulnerable (elderly, pre-existing health problems, etc), so you'd expect far more deaths in the vaccinated..

    What is more relevant is the fact that the unvaccinated are about 10 times (20 times in Texas) more likely to die of COVID in the USA than the vaccinated, despite the fact that many vaccinated people are the most vulnerable (elderly, pre-existing health problems, etc).

    I hope SSG don't let misinformation cause more suffering.
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    This thread needs to be closed. While it was a decent thread at the time of its initial life, by this point it is being used to argue.
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