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    Default Server lag kills 5 lvl 30.

    Yesterday a group of 6 lvl 30 players had a lag spike in Cogs that killed 3 of them in EE. Today the same happened in my group Sharn Blown deadline and we did it only on EH. Game froze no spells where landing and the HP slowly went down for several players. After 2 had died the server recovered again and I could run away and recall out of the quest. 2 players who had disconected survived but one had 150 HP left from over 1500.

    So almost halv the lvl 30 on the server have been wiped out. Do you plan to compensate the players that lost their lvl 30 in any way? This is complete ********. Investing 100 hours so you see your toon die to lag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ein View Post
    Yesterday a group of 6 lvl 30 players had a lag spike in Cogs that killed 3 of them in EE. Today the same happened in my group Sharn Blown deadline and we did it only on EH. Game froze no spells where landing and the HP slowly went down for several players. After 2 had died the server recovered again and I could run away and recall out of the quest. 2 players who had disconected survived but one had 150 HP left from over 1500.

    So almost halv the lvl 30 on the server have been wiped out. Do you plan to compensate the players that lost their lvl 30 in any way? This is complete ********. Investing 100 hours so you see your toon die to lag.
    Were you in HC? If so, you'll find little sympathy from me. You know this game is laggy so you did it at your own risk.

    If you were on the live servers, who cares? Just try the quests again.



    And yes, lag sucks. Get over it.
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    I always thought lag is the only real challenge in DDO that's why they make so little to fix it

    Also imo there should be the same compensations due to lag in HCL than in live servers, aka none
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    Sorry, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Were you in HC? If so, you'll find little sympathy from me. You know this game is laggy so you did it at your own risk..
    this.

    Also im 99% sure ssg got no tools to track when server lag occurs, so as long as you were not recording or streaming, there's no reason for them to believe someone died cause of lag spike.

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    Sorry to hear this.
    The audacity from SSG to go live with so much lag and no server improvement for hardcore is 1 of many reasons I don't participate in hardcore this and most probably the upcoming leagues.
    I recommend to do the same.
    I don't spend money on bad quality.

    But Arkat is right. Everyone should know that the lag situation is probably worse on hardcore than lives server. You knew this could happen. And you know, too that SSG will give no 2nd thought about your loss.

    Nevertheless I can feel you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Were you in HC? If so, you'll find little sympathy from me. You know this game is laggy so you did it at your own risk.

    If you were on the live servers, who cares? Just try the quests again.



    And yes, lag sucks. Get over it.
    Honestly, your response is uncalled for.

    Your post has one purpose and that is to insult a community member.

    I personally believe you should be banned from the forums for such a cruel, belittling and inflammatory post.


    How about taking your attitude and directing it properly to the game which is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atenhotep View Post
    Honestly, your response is uncalled for.

    Your post has one purpose and that is to insult a community member.

    I personally believe you should be banned from the forums for such a cruel, belittling and inflammatory post.


    How about taking your attitude and directing it properly to the game which is broken.
    Honestly your post is uncalled for.
    People whining about dying to lag on hardcore.... well... hmpf.

    The post you responded to had more than one purpose... reminding everyone that lag death on hardcore is "fair game"... for example.

    Everyone knows that dying on hardcore by any means whatsoever is death. Lag is included in that.
    Coming on the forums and whining about how unfair it is to die on hardcore is a waste of bandwidth, no?
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    Lag does suck. However, every one of us playing HCL goes in knowing the Lag Monster can pop up at any time. And lag death is still death.

    Those of us who were logged in when the messages popped up across the world paid our heartfelt respects to the lost souls, but that's about the extent of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmGhandi View Post
    Honestly your post is uncalled for.
    People whining about dying to lag on hardcore.... well... hmpf.

    The post you responded to had more than one purpose... reminding everyone that lag death on hardcore is "fair game"... for example.

    Everyone knows that dying on hardcore by any means whatsoever is death. Lag is included in that.
    Coming on the forums and whining about how unfair it is to die on hardcore is a waste of bandwidth, no?

    Belittling and insulting community members because of a problem with the product is uncalled for.

    The mere fact that we are in an abusive relationship with this game and a lot of you put up with it is a big problem.

    I refuse to remain in an abusive relationship so I deleted my game and ended my subscription.

    If enough of us correctly focus our anger at the company rather than each other maybe we wouldn't even be talking about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atenhotep View Post
    Belittling and insulting community members because of a problem with the product is uncalled for.

    The mere fact that we are in an abusive relationship with this game and a lot of you put up with it is a big problem.

    I refuse to remain in an abusive relationship so I deleted my game and ended my subscription.

    If enough of us correctly focus our anger at the company rather than each other maybe we wouldn't even be talking about this.
    Noone focussed anger at anyone.
    Just commented on someone complaining about something we all know happens, and where the company said they would do nothing about it.
    Asking about compensation, for a death where they have already said: no compensation.
    That sounded just like crying and raging.

    If everyone cancels their subs and stops paying then the game goes completely away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atenhotep View Post
    I refuse to remain in an abusive relationship so I deleted my game and ended my subscription.
    But still hanging around in the forums.... sounds a bit like remaining in the relationship to me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atenhotep View Post
    I refuse to remain in an abusive relationship so I deleted my game and ended my subscription.
    Hmmm...I think it's fair to ask if you've gotten out of an abusive relationship with the game, why haven't you gotten out of the relationship with SSG entirely by leaving their forums?

    I'm not suggesting you should leave, I'm asking you to rationalize the seeming cognitive dissonance between your action of uninstalling the game and your continued interaction here on a forum of a game you no longer play.
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    The release notes themselves are essentially the same as was seen on Lamannia most recently.
    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Hmmm...I think it's fair to ask if you've gotten out of an abusive relationship with the game, why haven't you gotten out of the relationship with SSG entirely by leaving their forums?

    I'm not suggesting you should leave, I'm asking you to rationalize the seeming cognitive dissonance between your action of uninstalling the game and your continued interaction here on a forum of a game you no longer play.
    That's the thing about "abusive relationships".... you cant leave them so easily. They continue to dominate your life....
    or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ein View Post
    Yesterday a group of 6 lvl 30 players had a lag spike in Cogs that killed 3 of them in EE. Today the same happened in my group Sharn Blown deadline and we did it only on EH. Game froze no spells where landing and the HP slowly went down for several players. After 2 had died the server recovered again and I could run away and recall out of the quest. 2 players who had disconected survived but one had 150 HP left from over 1500.

    So almost halv the lvl 30 on the server have been wiped out. Do you plan to compensate the players that lost their lvl 30 in any way? This is complete ********. Investing 100 hours so you see your toon die to lag.
    Your compensation was already distributed to each and every player in the payment of 100 hours of fun and enjoyment in the form of entertainment. This is a game.

    Time Invested vs. Time Spent vs. Time Wasted

    Lag is a bummer. Dying in HC is a bummer. Keep on venting. Just try not to be delusional.
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    my casualties so far

    lvl 9 - my fault for being stupid
    lvl 6 - champ caster spawn and throws a crit at me for an instant kill (bad luck)

    so have not had a lag death yet
    (a few close calls though)
    ((knock on wood))

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    BTW

    Don't expect too much sympathy from the Anti-HCL folks
    The entire server could get wiped out by a bug and they would
    sit there and laugh at us.

    I hope they do a complete server merge soon,
    tired of the crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post

    Don't expect too much sympathy from the Anti-HCL folks
    The entire server could get wiped out by a bug and they would
    sit there and laugh at us.
    I'd giggle like a little Japanese schoolgirl.
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    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Hmmm...I think it's fair to ask if you've gotten out of an abusive relationship with the game, why haven't you gotten out of the relationship with SSG entirely by leaving their forums?

    I'm not suggesting you should leave, I'm asking you to rationalize the seeming cognitive dissonance between your action of uninstalling the game and your continued interaction here on a forum of a game you no longer play.
    I'm pretty sure a lot of people after leaving the game will post a final goodbye message on the forums. No dissonance in there. Delete the game, post a few messages on the forums the next day, and then gone for good.

    If he is still posting here in a week, then maybe you could say that. It would be like someone who doesn't care about HC but keeps checking the HC forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atenhotep View Post
    Belittling and insulting community members because of a problem with the product is uncalled for.

    The mere fact that we are in an abusive relationship with this game and a lot of you put up with it is a big problem.

    I refuse to remain in an abusive relationship so I deleted my game and ended my subscription.

    If enough of us correctly focus our anger at the company rather than each other maybe we wouldn't even be talking about this.
    As an observer I think he was expressing a sincere opinion and doing nothing wrong. It's frustrating to lose a character on HC, especially when lag contributed. Unfortunately where does SSG draw the line and if they make exceptions it probably won't end up being fair.

    Tough situation all around, the only way to ensure a positive HC experience is to not participate and transfer all the free goodies to your main server. Anyone that participates should know going in you may die an unfair death. 3 people died in death smile when the server crashed over the weekend - I mean they only died due to that crash - as far as I know nothing was done to help them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    I'd giggle like a little Japanese schoolgirl.
    That was a mental video I didn't need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbd3rd View Post
    That was a mental video I didn't need.
    I first heard it on an episode of MST3K where they were watching a Gamera movie. I laughed my ass off when I heard it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    The release notes themselves are essentially the same as was seen on Lamannia most recently.
    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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