Reflection of Blackrazor and Reapers. Bug?

[Gilga1]

I'm using Reflection of Blackrazor. When I hit reapers (any reaper) I see the superimposed text "Immune" and I do zero damage.
I'm a pally. My Reflection has Good, Silver, Adamantine. KotC light damage and entropic work fine.

[heavyaslead0]

Are not reapers consider incorporeal?

[Gilga1]

I have ghost touch... they are hit, but they are immune to weapon damage.

[cru121]

Some monsters need your weapon to break Magic DR. Particularly incorporeal. Has your Reflection of Blackrazor lost "magic" damage type?

[kuzka111]

I'm using Reflection of Blackrazor. When I hit reapers (any reaper) I see the superimposed text "Immune" and I do zero damage.
I'm a pally. My Reflection has Good, Silver, Adamantine. KotC light damage and entropic work fine.

got same problem all optional dmg hit but base dmg say "immune"

[J1NG]

Are you guys sure you're getting base damage as Immune? And not Holy/Good Damage being Immune and got shunted into before the Base Damage on the scrolling text?

I just went and tried against two Reapers and saw that my first damage was indeed Immune, but that was a Good/Holy Damage. The Base Damage was coming up in second place instead.

Can you guys reconfirm that this is not the case for you?

J1NG

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Nevermind, I've done further tests. It's not any damage that's being ignored at all. It's the Soul Scar Debuff from Overwhelming Stealer of Souls on hit debuff that's being rendered "Immune". As said, your Base Damage should still be going through fine.

[Mindos]

:: edit ::

Nevermind, I've done further tests.

Dang it, we had a good ol' mystery going! You had to ruin it with testamathingies.

[J1NG]

Dang it, we had a good ol' mystery going! You had to ruin it with testamathingies.

Well, the sooner we get down to what the issue is, the sooner we can ask for... "fixes" and "buffs" for non-working abilities...

J1NG

[J1NG]

Further tests reveal a tiny bit more information on the matter.

It appears the buff effect (+X damage and melee power) from the souls do not stack with Filigree Melee Power. This means those using Blackrazor will have less MP than others. I am unsure on the added damage part, as that's NOT something you can test easily with the amount of variables involved.

As for the Debuff that is being shown as Immune. It's not trip related, or Mind Immune related. It does affect Red Named and also undead and constructs (non WF), and also works on Reaper Difficulty mobs, so whatever is blocking the Soul Scar Debuff, I think for something like a weapon like Reflection of Blackrazor, these minor issues should be addressed and resolved in favour of players (as in, make it work against Reapers). Especially considering the difficulty in obtaining everything in order to create it.

J1NG

[Gilga1]

Thank you, I did some tests too and I can confirm.

It appears the buff effect (+X damage and melee power) from the souls do not stack with Filigree Melee Power.

I also tested stacks, and they work fine for me, both damage and melee power. Mp stacks with filigrees. Actually, stacks are the only reason that pushes Reflection ahead of Esos. Also, I have +4 mythic on Reflection. But be forced to avoid weapon swaps is a terrible thing...

[J1NG]

I also tested stacks, and they work fine for me, both damage and melee power. Mp stacks with filigrees. Actually, stacks are the only reason that pushes Reflection ahead of Esos. Also, I have +4 mythic on Reflection. But be forced to avoid weapon swaps is a terrible thing...

Are you testing at full stacks (20)? Or less? My tests show that for One Against Many MP increase from set and Filigree, where I have 10 extra MP (5 from Filigree, 5 from set) and looking at the MP rating, whilst I have any Stacks of souls at 10 or less, this counter does not increase. It is only after 10 Souls (11 to 20) where this is added on.

This might be specific to the One Against Many Filigree set and set bonus, but that would be weird to be specific to that set only. So I was putting it out there if anyone else has noticed anything.

J1NG

[Gilga1]

Are you testing at full stacks (20)? Or less?

Every stack gives +1 mp till 20. I also have One against many slotted and I get +20 from souls.

[J1NG]

Every stack gives +1 mp till 20. I also have One against many slotted and I get +20 from souls.

Interesting. There's something that the stacks don't stack with then that's not filigree bonus related. Must hunt that down then.

J1NG

[J1NG]

Found the problem, didn't read the typing properly; was using Ravenloft Mists Set, that granted +10 MP in Profane typing, and the ones from Blackrazor are also Profane based, so already had +10MP already constantly listed in my case. So no real issue there.

The issue remains that for some reason, Reapers were given some type of immunity, but I haven't locked down what type is causing the issue; whether it's a unique immunity, or whether it's a broader typed immunity. If former, probably should change the effect if Blackrazor gets a further future upgrade. If the latter, really needs to be modified. Although I'm leaning on the former at this time, so we'll likely not get any further changes to Blackrazors Soul Scar effect.

J1NG