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    Default Theorycrafting - Ninja Chemist

    Monk 3 importantly gives you access to Sting of the Ninja in the Ninja Spy tree, which is a magical poison. Meaning every three seconds when you crit, whatever you're hitting gets 5% more poison invulnerability as long as it can be effected by poison. Which is everything, because Vile Chemist has the ability to strip poison immunity.

    Less important- also gives you access to Aligning the Heavens which is a 25% cost reduction in spells.


    17 Alch / 3 Monk (or 16 Alch / 3 Monk / 1 Rog for traps) - you want at least 15 Alch for both level 6 spells and extra venom procs, and level 16 for an extra feat.
    INT based is a no-brainer
    Gnome makes sense, if you have racial AP you can get permanent blur for heroics and color spray. Other races make sense too I just like short.

    Tons of feats. I just listed some cool stuff you could do with them. You could easily do a ranged/melee hybrid with Vistani or a caster/melee hybrid if you wanted Vistani for single target and alchemist poison junk for multi target.
    Heroic feats:
    TWF, iTWF, gTWF, Precision, iCrit Pierce, (Adept of Forms), (Master of Forms)

    Monk:
    (Dodge), (Deflect Arrows)

    Alchemist:
    Battalion Brew, Quicken, (Saves), (Whatever)

    There is just enough AP for:
    13 Ninja Spy (Sting of the Ninja)
    22 Vile Chemist (Core 12 for full BAB, Venom Affinity I)
    41 Vistani (Tons and tons of damage and good survivability)
    4 Shintao (10% offhand)

    Alternatively if you want to switch out some of those feats for castery stuff and be more of a hybrid using the poison SLAs on a mob who has a ton of poison vulnerability:
    13 Ninja Spy
    34 Vile Chemist (T5 - Vulnerability Procs, +1[W], SLA)
    25 Vistani (Crit range core, Mist Stalker, Double Daggers)
    8 Shintao (20 PRR, 10% offhand)

    There's a lot of synergies here.
    Last edited by Maelodic; 02-20-2020 at 02:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelodic View Post
    Monk 3 importantly gives you access to Sting of the Ninja in the Ninja Spy tree, which is a magical poison. Meaning every three seconds when you crit, whatever you're hitting gets 5% more poison invulnerability as long as it can be effected by poison. Which is everything, because Vile Chemist has the ability to strip poison immunity.

    Less important- also gives you access to Aligning the Heavens which is a 25% cost reduction in spells.


    17 Alch / 3 Monk (or 16 Alch / 3 Monk / 1 Rog for traps) - you want at least 15 Alch for both level 6 spells and extra venom procs, and level 16 for an extra feat.
    INT based is a no-brainer
    Gnome makes sense, if you have racial AP you can get permanent blur for heroics and color spray. Other races make sense too I just like short.

    Tons of feats. I just listed some cool stuff you could do with them. You could easily do a ranged/melee hybrid with Vistani or a caster/melee hybrid if you wanted Vistani for single target and alchemist poison junk for multi target.
    Heroic feats:
    TWF, iTWF, gTWF, Precision, iCrit Pierce, (Adept of Forms), (Master of Forms)

    Monk:
    (Dodge), (Deflect Arrows)

    Alchemist:
    Battalion Brew, Quicken, (Saves), (Whatever)

    There is just enough AP for:
    13 Ninja Spy (Sting of the Ninja)
    22 Vile Chemist (Core 12 for full BAB, Venom Affinity I)
    41 Vistani (Tons and tons of damage and good survivability)
    4 Shintao (10% offhand)

    Alternatively if you want to switch out some of those feats for castery stuff and be more of a hybrid using the poison SLAs on a mob who has a ton of poison vulnerability:
    13 Ninja Spy
    34 Vile Chemist (T5 - Vulnerability Procs, +1[W], SLA)
    25 Vistani (Crit range core, Mist Stalker, Double Daggers)
    8 Shintao (20 PRR, 10% offhand)

    There's a lot of synergies here.
    So is this supposed to be a dual dagger twf build? I like the idea and would love to see someones gameplay video of it at endgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flute136 View Post
    So is this supposed to be a dual dagger twf build? I like the idea and would love to see someones gameplay video of it at endgame.
    Yes. I have no plans to level it up, but I can test it on Lamannia next time it opens up.
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