All-purpose Swashcrobat Dancer

[Tilomere]

Nvm, been a few months, doesn't look like this is gona be fixed to work.

As they used to get Glancing Blows (like Bastard Swords), these weird outlier weapons ought to be getting Strikethrough under the same circumstances but definitely don't right now. We'll work on it for a future patch.

[Coffey]

You can save 2 AP taking Deflect Arrows from VKF.

[Tilomere]

You can save 2 AP taking Deflect Arrows from VKF.

Then you don't get the 15-20x3 crit profile with swashbuckling!

[Coffey]

You probably want the 10% movement speed too ftom SB though.

Does DoD ST actually stack with other bonuses?

[Tilomere]

You probably want the 10% movement speed too ftom SB though.

Does DoD ST actually stack with other bonuses?

It is only 1% per bard level, or 4%.

Yes AFAIK.

[Coffey]

Ok haha didnt realize you could use swash stance!

[Tilomere]

Ok haha didnt realize you could use swash stance!

Yes, sunblades are swashable short swords, but count as bastard swords for THF.

[Coffey]

Weapons: Main hand sunblades (shortsword typed as bastard sword for THF), off hand gaurd-breaking buckler

I never knew there was such a weapon but it doesnt surprise me.

[Coffey]

Im thinking that the DoD only activates 200% ST when running though and may not be activated with only a single weapon.

[Tilomere]

Weapons: Main hand sunblades (shortsword typed as bastard sword for THF), off hand gaurd-breaking buckler

I never knew there was such a weapon but it doesnt surprise me.

It's old school: https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Sun_Blade

In DDO, they exist as sun blades, star of days, celestia, and Echo of the Sun Sword which you get in Strahd as loot, and the Sun Sword itself, which plays a key part in Ravenloft story arc.

[Tilomere]

Im thinking that the DoD only activates 200% ST when running though and may not be activated with only a single weapon.

Best guess is DoD will activate with any style eventually. They went out of their way to enable the buff to work with any style, so they will make DoD work with any style as well. They wen't out of their way to raise the cap specifically knowing this type of build is the only type that benefits, since normal THF builds are all at ~200% strike through. It doesn't make sense to make cap and DoD changes specifically to enable this type of build to hit this level of strike through and make it annoying to play by requiring weapon swaps.

Even still, you can minimize weapon swap lag by not using sentient weapons that change your character's stats. (No rare augments with prr/mrr, no stats period, or even no sentience at all).

[*][*]The cap on Strikethrough targets is now 5 (at 400%).[*][*]The THF feat now grants 60% Strikethrough.[*][*]The ITHF feat now grants 30% Strikethrough.[*][*]The GTHF feat now grants 30% Strikethrough.[*][*]The PTHF feat now grants 30% Strikethrough.

Barbarian: Frenzied Berserker: Angry Arms now grants +5/10/20% Strikethrough Chance.
Barbarian: Frenzied Berserker: Mad Munitions now grants +5/10/20% Strikethrough Chance.

Rogue: Thief Acrobat: Rogue Improved Glancing Blows has been renamed to "Improved Second Strikes", and now grants +5/10/20% Strikethrough Chance
[*][*][*]Paladin: Knight of the Chalice: Replaces "Knight's Command" with "Improved Second Strikes" which grants +5/10/20% Strikethrough Chance

Greater Two Handed Fighting now also improves Bastard Sword and Dwarven Waraxe to 1.6x your relevant Ability Score Modifier to damage

[*][*]Ranger: Tempest: Dance of Death (200% strike through) now applies it's strike through buff even if the attack does not make contact with an enemy.

(Prior Update 45 Preview 2 THF)
Ranger Enhancements
Dance of Death's buff now grants you the ability to Strikethrough with melee attacks regardless of Combat Style for the duration of the buff (10 seconds), and grants +50%/100%/200% Strikethrough Chance for the duration of the buff. These replace the previous component that allowed you to hit multiple targets directly. Cooldown remains at 15 seconds.

[Pilgrim1]

So you can now dance of death without a 2WF, intresting...

I don't really see the gain in going for swashbuckling over some other weapon style, is it just critical profile? I wonder if you stacked up other strike through bonuses would they work with 2wf, off hand as well?

How about the old clasic of 6 ranger 14 pally for holy sword and 2hf? Seams more streamlined?

If your gonna stick with bard i would try to get the freeze into it. 6 second aoe freeze seams really strong.

I wonder if you could get the dc up for stunning blow or improved trip.

[unbongwah]

BF 10 Rogue > 5 Ranger > 4 Bard> 1 Ranger, requires +1 heart and alignment change

Do you actually need rgr 6 / bard 4? Why not do rog 12 / rgr 5 / bard 3 so you can grab Improved Sneak Attack?

So you can now dance of death without a 2WF, intresting...

You actually could for a long time until the Tempest pass in U28, IIRC, which made the dual-wield-only attacks actually only work while dual-wielding. So this is actually a very old idea for a Swashbuckler / Tempest revamped for the new Strikethrough mechanics.

[Tilomere]

How about the old clasic of 6 ranger 14 pally for holy sword and 2hf? Seams more streamlined?

It's not just crit, it is also the trapping, ability to swap to a quarterstaff, helpless damage, movement speed of acrobat, and defensive roll. Plus 14 paladin/6 ranger is what everyone else will be making.

Do you actually need rgr 6 / bard 4? Why not do rog 12 / rgr 5 / bard 3 so you can grab Improved Sneak Attack?

4 bard gives blur and 6 ranger gives manyshot and twf#2, which means we can get TWF#3 at 30 and have both styles fully developed and just swap at will from fighting as a tempest twf, fighting as a swashbuckling bard s/b, ranging with a bow, or whacking stuff with a stick.

I looked at the freeze. To get it to work you need a lot of investment, and end up with something too specialized for what I want.

[Tilomere]

Updated for actual patch notes. Dance of Death isn't ripe yet. Swapped to barb tier 5 for constant strike through instead of weapon swapping annoyance of DoD. And more crit multiplier. Combined with swashing it will be excellent. The extra move speed won't hurt either.

Dropped BF. Probably aasimar on this. According to Steelstar, soon this will be all powerful.

[Maelodic]

You're an absolute madman Tilo.

I love this. I'll never run it, but I love it.