Give Fighters, Barbarians, and rangers full BAB as a level 18 class feat

[doubledge]

Think about this for a moment. Right now, pure fighters, barbarians, etc... They're behind wizards and every other 'full BAB' class in the game. Even bards get this at level 18.

My simple solution is to add a free feat at level 18 for Rangers, Fighters and Barbarians called "Trained Combatant".



Trained Combatant

(Free feat, auto-granted at 18 Barbarian, Ranger, Fighter, Paladin)

Your BAB is equal to your character level.


(Edit: Include Paladins too, I can't believe I forgot about them!)

No longer will the specifically melee classes be forced to use Tensers scrolls!

[FuzzyDuck81]

....what?

fighters, barbarians, paladins & rangers all inherently get full BAB progression - the only reason one of those characters wouldn't have full BAB is if they were multiclassed with something that doesn't.

the reason other classes have abilities to grant them full BAB is to make their to-hit equivalent to an actual fighting class & it only counts for that, not for feat prerequisites.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Base_Attack_Bonus

[mikarddo]

....what?

fighters, barbarians, paladins & rangers all inherently get full BAB progression - the only reason one of those characters wouldn't have full BAB is if they were multiclassed with something that doesn't.

the reason other classes have abilities to grant them full BAB is to make their to-hit equivalent to an actual fighting class & it only counts for that, not for feat prerequisites.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Base_Attack_Bonus

You overlook epic levels. 20 Fighter is 20 BAB at level 30. Tensor scrolls make that 30 (as char level is 30).

[psykopeta]

You overlook epic levels. 20 Fighter is 20 BAB at level 30. Tensor scrolls make that 30 (as char level is 30).

Epic levels give 1 bab every 2 levels, so in the end 25 bab which caps attack speed

[mikarddo]

Epic levels give 1 bab every 2 levels, so in the end 25 bab which caps attack speed

Cheers, thank you for the correction.

[doubledge]

....what?

fighters, barbarians, paladins & rangers all inherently get full BAB progression - the only reason one of those characters wouldn't have full BAB is if they were multiclassed with something that doesn't.

the reason other classes have abilities to grant them full BAB is to make their to-hit equivalent to an actual fighting class & it only counts for that, not for feat prerequisites.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Base_Attack_Bonus

You overlook epic levels. 20 Fighter is 20 BAB at level 30. Tensor scrolls make that 30 (as char level is 30).

Epic levels give 1 bab every 2 levels, so in the end 25 bab which caps attack speed

What is actually comes down to is missing extra PRR and to hit bonuses on a more tank-oriented build. Builds which run Sentinel, Dreadnought, or Fury.

By adding these feats, Pure, or mostly-pure martial classes get, at the minimum, 5-10 more PRR at 30, in addition to another 5 to hit, and attack speed scales up faster. Sure, the difference is relatively minor, but I think it's a decent quality of life improvement, while also still keeping Tensers as a niche option. It still gives the alchemical bonus, after all.

[Kutalp]

They should sure get double to triple hitpoints, prr/mrr, reflex and fortitude saves, passive and movement speed, Attack Speed and base dodge compared to all other classes; except rogue class could get half of that but should still be tougher than casters and all other whatever role we can give (can not call newer additions even specialist or caster whatsover)


The older rule set and class system was insanely balanced and logical. BAB should follow the older rule system.