Up Your Game On COC Regarding Respect Towards Fellow Forum Goers!

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

"Community Rules
Standing Stone Games strives to foster a welcoming, friendly, and active community that enjoys playing our games. To that end, here are some rules we need you to follow. Having a diverse and friendly environment is very important to us, and it is your key to finding people to play with for years to come.

Remember that moderators have to make decisions all the time that require context. Applying the rules isn’t a robotic or mathematical process; mods often deal with shades of grey rather than black and white. Our Community Rules are not meant to fuel "rules lawyers"; rather, they are general guidance to help you understand what our expectations are.

These are the things we expect you to do:

*Be nice! A friendly and welcoming environment is very important, as it allows gamers from all walks of life and skill levels to participate.


*Respect people. We ask that you respect others whether you agree with them or not. That means, in part:

*Don't insult or harass others: Insulting or harassing people says more about you than it does the person you are insulting or harassing.

*Don't troll: Trolling disrupts conversation and leads to long-term problems. Remember that you can strongly disagree with someone and not post about it, and can instead voice your own opinion without insulting others.
This is also more productive and valuable to us. It's okay if someone is wrong on the Internet!

*Don't accuse people of being trolls: Simply report their posts and move on. Calling someone a troll is a form of trolling.
Don't use loaded words to insult a group of players: The use of the words, "fanboy", "fanbois", "cheerleaders", "haters", or similar-meaning language, is insulting and not okay."

It is rude to comment negatively on a post that you did not take the time to read and/or comprehend, by the same language of the rules of the forums, it truly does disrupt conversation. When you enable people who have this conduct problem, it leads to long-term problems.

The correct conduct is explained in this flow chart, and those who do not follow said conduct should be considered in violation of the DDO forum rules!



I follow this when replying to the posts of others, I expect the same respect not only shown in return, but normalized as without this standard there is simply too much negativity!

I've seen Lynnabel be hit with this more than I can count, heck even I have been guilty of such towards her in the past but I gladly hold myself accountable and most people don't even do that much!

When Lynnabel suffers this standard not being in place, she gets scolded by someone for something they don't even understand such as regarding the limitations of coding within the engine DDO uses. The scolding itself is wrong because it was based on an assumption and the person doing the scolding instead of scolding should have asked a question such as "Why did you make it this way?" or "Is this working as intended?" etc. and Lynnabel does have to deal with this on a regular basis!

You need to recognize the rudeness in this behavior and consider making these forums a proper culture of Inquiry as to prevent this kind of toxicity, the flow chart can explain how well enough to work from even if you only take away a little from that flow chart, it's a good place to start!

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

Not only here, but also in other forums I have seensome kind of discussion behaviour which was irritating me a LOT.

Sometimes, it is so that 2 or 3 people are discussing a topic, and then they are blocking everyone out who is not a member of these 2 or three participants.
I have seen it by myself - elsewhere as well ! - then when i had been writing a serious reply that was meant to be a normal contribution to the discussion - no trolling ! - that my reply was totally ignored. i could see it by thw quotes - only these 2-3 participants were constantly quoting each other, and no-one else was quoted, from which I deduced that they were totally ignoring - not seeing - everyone else writing in the same discusion thread. it was a closed circle.

These people didn't even check the rest of the thread, looking if there had been other responses as well. i could tell that from their quotes : they were quoting exclusively each other.


I really have no idea where this behaviour comes from. It appears to me to be very selfish, to see only that few participants, as if they were I a battle against one another.
Sometimes, this looks like elitism to me. Others are ignored because they are not deep enough into the matter.

It really isn't a good social behaviour, in my opinion, to ignore other people like that. Blocking everyone out of sight. But I see it every now and then.
It might produce a positivre feedback-reaction to be confirmed that only 2 or three people are of the same level of knowledge to actually be able to discuss some matters like that,
but that still doesn't mean that blocking everyone out of a discusion, even if the person just doesn't have the same level of knowledge, is a good social behaviour. It isn't. Imho.

People want to be respected, not blocked out.

Edit : And I'm talking about non-trolling !

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Not only here, but also in other forums I have seensome kind of discussion behaviour which was irritating me a LOT.

Sometimes, it is so that 2 or 3 people are discussing a topic, and then they are blocking everyone out who is not a member of these 2 or three participants.
I have seen it by myself - elsewhere as well ! - then when i had been writing a serious reply that was meant to be a normal contribution to the discussion - no trolling ! - that my reply was totally ignored. i could see it by thw quotes - only these 2-3 participants were constantly quoting each other, and no-one else was quoted, from which I deduced that they were totally ignoring - not seeing - everyone else writing in the same discusion thread. it was a closed circle.

These people didn't even check the rest of the thread, looking if there had been other responses as well. i could tell that from their quotes : they were quoting exclusively each other.


I really have no idea where this behaviour comes from. It appears to me to be very selfish, to see only that few participants, as if they were I a battle against one another.
Sometimes, this looks like elitism to me. Others are ignored because they are not deep enough into the matter.

It really isn't a good social behaviour, in my opinion, to ignore other people like that. Blocking everyone out of sight. But I see it every now and then.
It might produce a positivre feedback-reaction to be confirmed that only 2 or three people are of the same level of knowledge to actually be able to discuss some matters like that,
but that still doesn't mean that blocking everyone out of a discusion, even if the person just doesn't have the same level of knowledge, is a good social behaviour. It isn't. Imho.

People want to be respected, not blocked out.

Edit : And I'm talking about non-trolling !

The problem here is that it would be wrong to force people to not block others out, the court system is forcing my wife into having to deal with her mother (We are about to end this problem) so I know how much trouble that itself can be. Sure it may seem rude from your point of view, but it sounds like you may have been best off starting out by asking for more information as to see the topic from the original poster's perspective. When this forum habit happens, from what I've seen it's usually a matter of "This person doesn't seem to get it so I'm just going to manage my efforts by ignoring them". If someone has not wronged another in their conduct, then their energy rightfully belongs to them as something they should be in charge of managing! However, if someone is to be excluded from a conversation, I do believe they have a right to know why: this is why sometimes I edit a post to include an explanation as to why some people's replies were ignored.

[Hobgoblin]

nvm