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    Default U45 KotC Changes [Livestream Spoilers]

    Summarized from Wednesday's livestream with SteelStar:

    KotC revamp:
    * Favored weapons enhancement revamp similar to Warpriest
    * Ranged weapons fully supported including ranged smite
    * Knight's Training feat free
    * Knight's Training weapons all treated as favored weapons
    * Another free feat (not specified)
    * Greatsword favored weapon for all level 3 paladins
    * Dwarven axe for dwarves now favored weapon in T3 or T4 of racial tree
    * Deity feats revamped -- now grants hit/dmg with all favored weapons not just the deity weapon
    * Deity feats consolidated -- intended to make it easier to change deity feats with Fred; will be automatically applied to toons that already have diety feats
    * Lots of number/DC tweaking

    There are also THF changes, but details were not provided.
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    Thanks for the update. I'm eagerly awaiting those Pally changes.

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    If two handed fighting gets buffed, does wolf maul of silvanus get stronger?
    If Devs are messing with Diety feats, watch out for wolf changes hidden beneath all the Inquistive rage...

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    Ever thought about including greatswords into Knight's Training ? Getting 1 crit multi ?

    Blackrazor, Sanctity, Whirlwind, Skybreaker, Constellation ( ya I have them all too ) and many more iconic and super cool swords never leaving banks or murdering another thousand kobolds.

    It would fit the pally (re)revival theme I 'd think ?
    Fun with various weapons after the "dumbest dark age" of Same old Song or PN xbow boredom ?

    Pretty please ?
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    Any mention of adding Grace of Battle and/or Divine Presence to the tree to make CHA paladins a more viable thing? TIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindos View Post
    If two handed fighting gets buffed, does wolf maul of silvanus get stronger?
    I infer they mean the THF feats themselves will be buffed, which means it won't affect wolf builds since only the Natural Fighting chain applies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    Summarized from Wednesday's livestream with SteelStar:

    KotC revamp:
    * Favored weapons enhancement revamp similar to Warpriest
    * Ranged weapons fully supported including ranged smite
    * Knight's Training feat free
    * Knight's Training weapons all treated as favored weapons
    * Another free feat (not specified)
    * Greatsword favored weapon for all level 3 paladins
    * Dwarven axe for dwarves now favored weapon in T3 or T4 of racial tree
    * Deity feats revamped -- now grants hit/dmg with all favored weapons not just the deity weapon
    * Deity feats consolidated -- intended to make it easier to change deity feats with Fred; will be automatically applied to toons that already have diety feats
    * Lots of number/DC tweaking

    There are also THF changes, but details were not provided.
    In addition, some/many of the Tier 1 & Tier 2 abilities have been relocated to elsewhere in the tree or subsumed into the Cores to make them free, if I remember correctly due to enhancements being bought but being locked behind level access to the actual Class feature. I'm guessing this is mainly Turn Undead only being available from level ..3?... for a Paladin.

    Ignoring the Quality of Life changes (Ranged attacks working with Paladin abilities, free feats), it's a decent start. The Favoured Weapon line of damage enhancements could be significant, I would expect between +5 to +7 damage for TWF/SWF and for 7-10 for THF based on enhancement lines like Kensai where THF gets a little more damage.

    Some things I would love to see would be:


    • Greatsword added to Knights Training for Paladins
    • Turns affecting Devils & Demons - niche, but useful and entirely characterful
    • Light Damage on Hit properly scaling, as in can be a MAJOR source of damage for Paladins, especially ones with the KotC Capstone
    • Divine Might tied to SP instead of Turn Charges
    • Holy Retribution ... somehow fixed ... for Epic Levels / Legendary Reaper


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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Any mention of adding Grace of Battle and/or Divine Presence to the tree to make CHA paladins a more viable thing? TIA.
    THIS would be soooo nice!

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