Deep Gnome Inquisitive, Wiz18/Art2 - how to split AP?

[GrantAnderson]

My main is currently L18 and rapidly approaching the point of TR into a Deep Gnome Inquisitive to-be-Wiz18/Art2. (I have a Ratcatcher all ready to go.)

Putting 41AP into Inquisitive and 12AP into Harper is pretty much mandatory, that sorts the actual Inquisiting and +Int to hit and damage, with Know the Angles along the way.

I've seen several suggestions on what to do with the remaining (in my case, thanks to tomes) 29 points - one recommending Eldritch Knight 6, to the first Imbue, and the remainder in Pale Master to improve self-healing and Shroud. Another was to go only 6 into Pale Master to get the self-healing, then push EK up to 21 for improved imbues and some SLA defences. Yet a third was to invest in the Deep Gnome tree for crossbow bonuses. (And there are probably options I haven't even looked at - further into Harper? Use the Artificer splash to get a few crossbow bonuses?)

The plan is for this to be a solo build and to do 20-30 Epic Reincarnation laps a few times before dropping back to do some Racial lives made easier by the Epic Past Life passives.

As far as I can tell, the advantages of each are as follows:
- Eldritch Knight: greater imbue damage, enough ASF reduction to make heavy armour an option, a couple of SLAs-with-benefits
- Pale Master: more shroud customisation, more neg healing amp, possibly a pet
- Deep Gnome: SLAs, crossbow bonuses (though the threat range bonuses for Inquisitive are competence as well, so I assume they don't stack?)

Any advice would be appreciated!

[DaggomaticDwarf]

My main is currently L18 and rapidly approaching the point of TR into a Deep Gnome Inquisitive to-be-Wiz18/Art2. (I have a Ratcatcher all ready to go.)

Putting 41AP into Inquisitive and 12AP into Harper is pretty much mandatory, that sorts the actual Inquisiting and +Int to hit and damage, with Know the Angles along the way.

I've seen several suggestions on what to do with the remaining (in my case, thanks to tomes) 29 points - one recommending Eldritch Knight 6, to the first Imbue, and the remainder in Pale Master to improve self-healing and Shroud. Another was to go only 6 into Pale Master to get the self-healing, then push EK up to 21 for improved imbues and some SLA defences. Yet a third was to invest in the Deep Gnome tree for crossbow bonuses. (And there are probably options I haven't even looked at - further into Harper? Use the Artificer splash to get a few crossbow bonuses?)

The plan is for this to be a solo build and to do 20-30 Epic Reincarnation laps a few times before dropping back to do some Racial lives made easier by the Epic Past Life passives.

As far as I can tell, the advantages of each are as follows:
- Eldritch Knight: greater imbue damage, enough ASF reduction to make heavy armour an option, a couple of SLAs-with-benefits
- Pale Master: more shroud customisation, more neg healing amp, possibly a pet
- Deep Gnome: SLAs, crossbow bonuses (though the threat range bonuses for Inquisitive are competence as well, so I assume they don't stack?)

Any advice would be appreciated!

Won't get IPS until Epic

Wiz get .5 per lvl
Art get .75 per lvl

IC: Ranged require 8
IPS: requires 11

I ended up going 14/4/2 Wiz/Ftr/Art

As for the AP split

41 Inq
12 Harp
7 Gnome
21 EK

With the Ftr and forth core in EK I can wear heavy armor with no asf. if I want. Plus I get deflect missile and bump to Spellsword Dice.

It works for me

Dagg.

[GrantAnderson]

Won't get IPS until Epic

Wiz get .5 per lvl
Art get .75 per lvl

IC: Ranged require 8
IPS: requires 11

I ended up going 14/4/2 Wiz/Ftr/Art

As for the AP split

41 Inq
12 Harp
7 Gnome
21 EK

With the Ftr and forth core in EK I can wear heavy armor with no asf. if I want. Plus I get deflect missile and bump to Spellsword Dice.

It works for me

Dagg.

Yeah, I've been durdling around with it in the Planner, but IC:Ranged at 18 and IPS at 21 looks like how it'll be. The upside is that being Iconic I'll start off at 15, do 15-20 once, then spend most of my time ERing 20->30->20->30..., so it'll only be an inconvenience initially.

I hadn't considered bringing in Fighter for feats/BAB, though. Hm... You don't miss the Pale Master self-healing?

[cru121]

inquisitives usually don't need too much self-healing

[DaggomaticDwarf]

Yeah, I've been durdling around with it in the Planner, but IC:Ranged at 18 and IPS at 21 looks like how it'll be. The upside is that being Iconic I'll start off at 15, do 15-20 once, then spend most of my time ERing 20->30->20->30..., so it'll only be an inconvenience initially.

I hadn't considered bringing in Fighter for feats/BAB, though. Hm... You don't miss the Pale Master self-healing?

Barb, Pally, Ftr, and Ranger all get 1 BaB per lvl. You could go Rgr for free Rapid Shot and Favored Enemy. Dig into DWS maybe?

As CRU stated, Inq doesn't need much healing.

Dagg.

[Kodwraith]

Barb, Pally, Ftr, and Ranger all get 1 BaB per lvl. You could go Rgr for free Rapid Shot and Favored Enemy. Dig into DWS maybe?

As CRU stated, Inq doesn't need much healing.

Dagg.

I'm interested what you find works for you. I am running one of these on my main as 2 rogue 18 wiz. I am currently in 13Harper / 41 Inqui / 6 Pale for wraith form, 3 into gnome for some xbow bonuse and int, then rest into EK.

I'm also having a hard time figuring out gear. My gear looks the most like my arti, but with more Negative SP.

[Swimms]

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