U44 Preview 2: Named Loot

[Gabrael]

Throwing more spaghetti onto a big pile of spaghetti already on fire won't really help the "there's too much spaghetti" problem :P I appreciate the enthusiasm, though

well, there are doors a ranged attack work on... or at the very least one in Khortos. but I suspect that unique door is sort of like a breakable. since ya can only break it, not open it

[Blah2]

I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I'd have preferred all the gear for the epic level to be level 20 instead of 21. As of right now, if I do an ETR I will still have to fish out my lower level gear, most likely Sharn gear, to put on for a total of 1 level. Odds are if I have to go through that much effort to find gear I can wear as soon as I ETR, the level 21 stuff would have to be leaps and bounds better then Sharn to get me to then go back and find all that gear. It would be nice to be able to ETR and just grab all my Borderlands gear and roll through epics. TY for adjusting the weapons to be 20 as that is a nice level to slap on a sentient weapon to carry you until end game.

You have sharn? Those 2 sagas will get you to level 21 after an ETR. Also if the ES 3 chain is difficult for you at level 30 perhaps this game is not for you.

[AstorPotamus]

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[QueenOfTheHook]

You have sharn? Those 2 sagas will get you to level 21 after an ETR. Also if the ES 3 chain is difficult for you at level 30 perhaps this game is not for you.

The quests are easy. Navigating that blasted wilderness zone is the annoying part.

[thedip]

If it is not too late, can I add another please to have the lvl21 weapons as this will make epic levelling easier; unless of course you are planning on a lvl25/26 pack in the near future. The Sharn weapons will still be viable in lvl20.

[Elearim]

First things first: I do like the new epic Items, they are nice for the most part, and at least work as a good extension to the sharn sets etc. while on the ETR Train. (I dont really care for the lvl 1 ones, since i usually just skip lvl 1,2 and maybe 3 with saved up daylie rolle exp stones)

One issue remains tho, as others and I have already mentioned: The Items are entirely missing the Doublestrike and Doubleshot Enhancements. That is a pure missing 6%/11% dps compared to other itemsets. Maybe consider switching the Bracers for Ranged and put in Bracers for Melee? Something like:

Wrists Slot

Fiendblood Bracers Wrists Slot
Minimum Level: 21

• Ranged Alacrity +15
• Doubleshot +6
• Tendon Slice +8
• Shrieking Bolt This item resonates with sonic energy. On ranged attacks, on an attack roll of 20 which is confirmed as a critical hit, it will punish the target with a blast of sound (10 to 60 sonic damage). A successful Fortitude save (DC22) reduces this damage by half.
• Empty Yellow Augment Slot

Dragonblood Bracers Wrists Slot
Minimum Level: 21

• Melee Alacrity +15
• Doublestrike +11
• Medium Action Boost Enhancement This will increase the total number of action boosts you can use by 2. However, these additional action boosts will only take effect after the wielder rests.
• Shrieking Edge This item resonates with sonic energy. On melee attacks, on an attack roll of 20 which is confirmed as a critical hit, it will punish the target with a blast of sound (10 to 60 sonic damage). A successful Fortitude save (DC22) reduces this damage by half.
• Empty Yellow Augment Slot

I think the Alacrity Enhancements are better than the marksmanship or an melee equivalent, since it may double with other items and therefore is not very powerfull while it gives some equipment rotation options.

The Deception and improved Deception on the other hand is bound to double and therefore is kind of a waste in an enchantment slot. There are just too many items around with those enchantments (e. g. Ring of the Stalker, Epic Golden Guile, Brawling Gloves, Backstabbing Gloves, Ring of Lies, Celestial Sapphire Ring etc.). Furthermore, its an enchantment many classes use, not just ranged, so if its implemented it might be better off on a more general item (e. g. Goggles with Deception and maybe Dodge Enchantments, Goggles, since it whould be a new slot for it) instead of a ranged themed bracers.

The Tendon Slice / Medium Action Boost Enhancement are just two convenient enchantments, that fit the item theme nicely and round them up a little.

TYVM for the great Work

[capsela]

First things first: I do like the new epic Items, they are nice for the most part, and at least work as a good extension to the sharn sets etc. while on the ETR Train. (I dont really care for the lvl 1 ones, since i usually just skip lvl 1,2 and maybe 3 with saved up daylie rolle exp stones)

One issue remains tho, as others and I have already mentioned: The Items are entirely missing the Doublestrike and Doubleshot Enhancements. That is a pure missing 6%/11% dps compared to other itemsets. Maybe consider switching the Bracers for Ranged and put in Bracers for Melee? Something like:

Wrists Slot

Fiendblood Bracers Wrists Slot
Minimum Level: 21

• Ranged Alacrity +15
• Doubleshot +6
• Tendon Slice +8
• Shrieking Bolt This item resonates with sonic energy. On ranged attacks, on an attack roll of 20 which is confirmed as a critical hit, it will punish the target with a blast of sound (10 to 60 sonic damage). A successful Fortitude save (DC22) reduces this damage by half.
• Empty Yellow Augment Slot

Dragonblood Bracers Wrists Slot
Minimum Level: 21

• Melee Alacrity +15
• Doublestrike +11
• Medium Action Boost Enhancement This will increase the total number of action boosts you can use by 2. However, these additional action boosts will only take effect after the wielder rests.
• Shrieking Edge This item resonates with sonic energy. On melee attacks, on an attack roll of 20 which is confirmed as a critical hit, it will punish the target with a blast of sound (10 to 60 sonic damage). A successful Fortitude save (DC22) reduces this damage by half.
• Empty Yellow Augment Slot

I think the Alacrity Enhancements are better than the marksmanship or an melee equivalent, since it may double with other items and therefore is not very powerfull while it gives some equipment rotation options.

The Deception and improved Deception on the other hand is bound to double and therefore is kind of a waste in an enchantment slot. There are just too many items around with those enchantments (e. g. Ring of the Stalker, Epic Golden Guile, Brawling Gloves, Backstabbing Gloves, Ring of Lies, Celestial Sapphire Ring etc.). Furthermore, its an enchantment many classes use, not just ranged, so if its implemented it might be better off on a more general item (e. g. Goggles with Deception and maybe Dodge Enchantments, Goggles, since it whould be a new slot for it) instead of a ranged themed bracers.

The Tendon Slice / Medium Action Boost Enhancement are just two convenient enchantments, that fit the item theme nicely and round them up a little.

TYVM for the great Work

agreed not everyone is a ranged rogue sneak attacking, most aren't

Fiendblood Bracers Wrists Slot
Minimum Level: 21
Armor piercing +whatever
Doubleshot +6
Tendon Slice +8
Empty Yellow Augment Slot


Dragonblood Bracers Wrists Slot
Minimum Level: 21
Armor Piercing +whatever
Doublestrike +11
Medium Action Boost Enhancement This will increase the total number of action boosts you can use by 2. However, these additional action boosts will only take effect after the wielder rests.

Empty Yellow Augment Slot

That shrieking stuff is better left on lvl5 charged gauntlets.

[nayozz]

Dear developers...

i have a suggestion about the trinket slot:

can you add a trinket item similar to this item but with evocation/enchantment ?

Cursed Mirror Trinket Slot
Minimum Level: 21
Illusion Focus +4
Necromancy Focus +4
Insightful Spell Penetration +2
Quality Spell Penetration +1
Empty Yellow Augment Slot

[LightBear]

I just want ranged attacks to interact with breakable/burnable shared door scripts. Ugh. That's been on my hitlist for like 3 years now. I hate having to punch doors when playing a ranged build. Even typing this reply out is making me frustrated.

If you ever are, make sure the animation is different. Exploding big beams of wood just seems kinda silly to be happening from an arrow.

[Xgya]

If you ever are, make sure the animation is different. Exploding big beams of wood just seems kinda silly to be happening from an arrow.

If I can tolerate tombs made out of granite to explode from my 6 strength level 1 halfling Wizard, those very same exploding in a similar fashion from crossbow bolts, I can tolerate doors responding to arrows the same way they do melee weapons, no problem there.

I mean, it DOES break immersion, but that's a very, very small sacrifice to pay to get rid of that annoyance.

[LightBear]

If I can tolerate tombs made out of granite to explode from my 6 strength level 1 halfling Wizard, those very same exploding in a similar fashion from crossbow bolts, I can tolerate doors responding to arrows the same way they do melee weapons, no problem there.

I mean, it DOES break immersion, but that's a very, very small sacrifice to pay to get rid of that annoyance.

Besides the material properties of a tree vs something of stone and how and arrow would penetrate those, if any...
And yes, I do find it annoying to have to switch weapons but at the same time I think it is a nice anti pattern.

Well, those big wooden doors do tend to have a str check.

I guess all those tombs are made out of a egg shell porcelain and not out of a thick slice of granite?

Anyway, I agree I'm over asking here.

[John3000]

Agreed, 21 with 21 scaling would be better than 20 with 20 scaling. ML20 with 21 scaling would seem like the logical way of making a named item due to how short lvl 20 is as a convenience thing. But as above, I guess that kind of flexibility with named item effect scaling isn't going to happen.

Well, they could simply add a "Masterful Craftsmanship" property to the ML20 items to compensate the 1 level scale difference.... that should do the trick.

While they are at it it'd be nice if you had a rare chance at getting the item with a "Wondrous Craftsmanship" instead of "masterful".


cheers

[nayozz]

Well, they could simply add a "Masterful Craftsmanship" property to the ML20 items to compensate the 1 level scale difference....
cheers

this is a nice idea, so everyone is happy :P

edit:
also what about adding masterful craftmanship to the heroic weapons too ?

you could add 2d6 damage, and for the caster weapon you could raise spellpower a notch

Sworn Silver (Weapon Type) Weapons (One of every weapon type)
Minimum Level: 2
Damage: [Normal W for Weapon Type]
+1 Enhancement Bonus
Silver, Alchemical
Empty Red Augment Slot

Ethereal (Weapon Type) Weapons (One of every weapon type)
Minimum Level: 2
Damage: [Normal W for Weapon Type]
+1 Enhancement Bonus
Ghost Touch
Empty Red Augment Slot

Sceptre of (SpellPower Type) Weapons (One of every Spellpower Type)
Minimum Level: 2
Damage: [1d6]
+1 Enhancement Bonus
Spellcasting Implement +2
(Spell Lore Type) +6%
(Spellpower Type) +43
Empty Red Augment Slot

[kmoustakas]

I just want ranged attacks to interact with breakable/burnable shared door scripts. Ugh. That's been on my hitlist for like 3 years now. I hate having to punch doors when playing a ranged build. Even typing this reply out is making me frustrated.

I don't punch doors, I actually unlock them. Feels faster than switching weapons.
My drow life was the most pleasant, fairie fire breaks everything, up to and including doors. It's officially my favourite spell in the game.

Also, this is a huge opportunity to add/improve on the korthos sets. Make some of the level 1 items parts of those sets!!! Do not change the sets, just make them part of them. You know, since the chronoscope trinket will never go to being minimum level 1 so it could actually be worn ever.

[0ldschool]

Well, they could simply add a "Masterful Craftsmanship" property to the ML20 items to compensate the 1 level scale difference.... that should do the trick.

While they are at it it'd be nice if you had a rare chance at getting the item with a "Wondrous Craftsmanship" instead of "masterful".


cheers

This really is a great idea. Nicely done. However, I fear that this has a "the code won't let us do that" response written all over it. Can we make it happen devs?