Build Request: Favored Soul 18 Monk 2 dual wielding Long Swords builds?

[swiftus]

Hello all,

I took a long DDO hiatus and have been back lately slowly bringing my characters up to speed as I adjust to changes in the game (reaper mode is something new to me.)

I have a character that I planned as FVS18/Mnk2 that is currently FVS16/Monk2. I don't remember why, but I set him to reincarnate because of problems I saw with the build back then. It might have been because I had STR and DEX base about the same and wanted to take from either to put into CON instead for better HP/fort.

Before I get into trying to salvage the character myself and risk further brain strain, I'd like to see if ya'll can suggest some builds that can help me understand how to make this combo viable in the current game state.

When I first attempted this, FVS was still the new kid (class) on the block and I was fascinated with being able to utilize Wisdom between the two classes and have a melee/caster/healer combo on top of that a centered monk splash with twf longswords, of course understanding I couldn't be a master of all. I went human at that time.

Any help appreciated!

[voxson5]

Hello all,

I took a long DDO hiatus and have been back lately slowly bringing my characters up to speed as I adjust to changes in the game (reaper mode is something new to me.)

I have a character that I planned as FVS18/Mnk2 that is currently FVS16/Monk2. I don't remember why, but I set him to reincarnate because of problems I saw with the build back then. It might have been because I had STR and DEX base about the same and wanted to take from either to put into CON instead for better HP/fort.

Before I get into trying to salvage the character myself and risk further brain strain, I'd like to see if ya'll can suggest some builds that can help me understand how to make this combo viable in the current game state.

When I first attempted this, FVS was still the new kid (class) on the block and I was fascinated with being able to utilize Wisdom between the two classes and have a melee/caster/healer combo on top of that a centered monk splash with twf longswords, of course understanding I couldn't be a master of all. I went human at that time.

Any help appreciated!

Big feat investment for centered long swords - 3x 2wf, icrit:slash, wf:slash, WSS, knights training, precision/power attack - That's already 8 of your 10 heroic feats

Quicken & Maximize?

I think you'ld be a hard to kill lower dps melee & group healer

*edit - removed errors

[darkniteyogi]

I think its a very thinly spread combo but doable. I suggest using what twf is good at, wc is maximizing weapon effects like vorpal and banes, smiting, and disruption.

I would not dump wis and still make Blade barrier my goto offense for trash. You lose too much by throwing away one of the best spells in the game.

U can still use twf for mages and archers.

I wouldnt waste any more feats for centered longsword.

Twf x3 is enough. Ic slashing, power attack cleave, g cleave, maximize empower quicken

[Discpsycho]

I wouldnt waste any more feats for centered longsword.

Twf x3 is enough. Ic slashing, power attack cleave, g cleave, maximize empower quicken

Power Attack, Cleave and Great Cleave are gonna be very unhelpful for this build. Stick with Knight's Training at the very least

Cleaves are generally underwhelming at the moment. This is especially true for TWF folks, who only get to cleave with one weapon at the cost of breaking their attack animation. As a War Soul, you've also got Divine Vessel, which shares a cooldown with Great Cleave and is quite a bit more powerful.

[unbongwah]

Dipping below FvS 18 costs you level 9 spells and +1 critical range from War Soul. Not worth it just to get an extra feat.

[Lonnbeimnech]

Big feat investment for centered long swords - 3x 2wf, icrit:slash, wf:slash, WSS, knights training, precision/power attack - That's already 8 of your 10 heroic feats

Quicken & Maximize? I'ld maybe think about adding in a fighter level for easy access to haste boost + another feat + retain wings

I think you'ld be a hard to kill lower dps melee & group healer

warsoul already gives haste boost in t2

[voxson5]

warsoul already gives haste boost in t2

Yeah.. derped on that & crit - show how much I pay attention to warsoul. Will edit my post

[swiftus]

Thanks everyone for the input!

This is inspiring me to put something into one of the character planners, which I mostly used for crafting planning, to try to work him out before I complete the reincarnation.

I appreciate the feat, class, and enh ideas, I'll have stuff to factor in!

For stat stuff I'm considering:
STR - Can't dump so I can carry stuff and be able to hit until a feat or enh kicks in.
DEX - To finesse or not finesse, evasion/dodge/reflex factor
CON - HP/fort
WIS - Will/FvS th/DC/dmg option
CHR - UMD, FvS th/DC/dmg option
INT - Skill points

... specifically for FvS considering Wis-based-to-hit type options if-any available to shift points.

Mainly looking at War Soul and Angel of Vengeance trees, but intrigued to find something to put on the monk side beyond Henshin Mystic's first core in Riddle of Fire (+3 Melee Power +2 Fire Resistance +3 PRR.)

Of course I got Monk for evasion and interesting gearing (the monk Whirling Steel feat makes the centered longswords a thing,) with added features of monk effects on weapons can be twitchy fun.

I'll post the character creator output if I can drudge it well enough. :P

[voxson5]

Ok. Lets take a closer look.

TLDR - I'ld recomend to go wisdom based. Dont dump con. Focus on getting more dodge, wisdom, spell dc etc

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Wisdom:
* FvS gets wisdom or charisma to hit and damage from level 2, when using favoured weapons, and FvS class levels make up your main class.
* When centred, Monks get dodge bonuses, can activate stances (such as water for more wisdom and dodge).
* While defensively centred (light encomberance & wearing robes/cloth/no armour), they benefit from wisdom bonus to AC.

Strength:
* helps to qualify for power attack - generally precision is higher DPS
* helps vs carry capacity (ie to remain centred)
* helps offset spells such as ray of enfeeblement - not often cast at your level range

Other stuff:
* longswords cant be finessed
* need 17 minimum dex (incl tomes - 1750 favour?) For itwf

* 11 ap into shintao gets you +10% offhand, +20% healing amp, +20 PRR, +1 ac & saves, ki strike (fist of iron?)
* 2 ap into beacon gets you +10% healing amp, good hope (+2 skills, saves, damage etc)
* 35 ap into warsoul gets you crit mods & self cast haste, haste boost, perma blur, 5/- dr, + 10 AC, divine intervention, +2 wisdom, divine will, +10% double strike
* 31 ap into AoV gets you spamable sla's, archon shoulder cannon, debuff aura, +1 spell DC, caster level boosters, +2 wisdom

I'd focus on boosting wisdom, dodge, doublestrike, conjuration DC (commetfall) and evocation DC (orders wrath, blade barrier, implosion, sun bolt)

With 32 point buy in and no tome(s), I'd go:
Str - 11
Dex - 17
Con - 14
Int - 8
Wis - 16 + level ups
Cha - 8

Balance & heal probably for skills.

Edit - gearsets such as silent avenger + adherents (incl pinnicle ring and summoners googles), with sharn upgrades, might be a good place to start if you have either expac

[badassbilly]

Thanks everyone for the input!

This is inspiring me to put something into one of the character planners, which I mostly used for crafting planning, to try to work him out before I complete the reincarnation.

I appreciate the feat, class, and enh ideas, I'll have stuff to factor in!

For stat stuff I'm considering:
STR - Can't dump so I can carry stuff and be able to hit until a feat or enh kicks in.
DEX - To finesse or not finesse, evasion/dodge/reflex factor
CON - HP/fort
WIS - Will/FvS th/DC/dmg option
CHR - UMD, FvS th/DC/dmg option
INT - Skill points

... specifically for FvS considering Wis-based-to-hit type options if-any available to shift points.

Mainly looking at War Soul and Angel of Vengeance trees, but intrigued to find something to put on the monk side beyond Henshin Mystic's first core in Riddle of Fire (+3 Melee Power +2 Fire Resistance +3 PRR.)

Of course I got Monk for evasion and interesting gearing (the monk Whirling Steel feat makes the centered longswords a thing,) with added features of monk effects on weapons can be twitchy fun.

I'll post the character creator output if I can drudge it well enough. :P

sorry I meant to put this here, please help
i was on hiatus for a while also and just can't figure out why I cannot get whirling steel, it says I need "weapon focus: longsword" but it is not listed as available. centered while wielding two longswords is what I am going for, maybe I'm just not high enough level yet. I guess I was kinda checking in to see if there have been fundamental changes I'm proficient in the soveirn host. level 9 only this life fvs with 2 levels of monk following an old build guide. has anything changed or am I just getting ahead of myself?