Log In Issues: Thursday, October 10th

[irnimnode]

Not having much problems as others as far as logins a few times it wont allow me to switch characters but I exit out of the game and reenter ad fined no more problems guess I am one of the lucky ones

[Graskitch]

Ok, at this point all worlds should be open and things should be goid. Standard repopulation of amenities applies.

hi - I know that some people are saying that after the downtime today, that they are able now to login.

I am able to login with some characters, but others still get stuck on the loading screen trying to enter the world. I do not know if this is a general loading screen issue or if there are still login issues, but I did try three times in a row without success.

1. can you provide an explanation for what is causing the loading screen issue?

2. does it matter where we logged out ? is it being caused by specific instances?

[Samir_Bennal]

Ok, at this point all worlds should be open and things should be goid. Standard repopulation of amenities applies.

still stuck on loading screen.

Thelanis

[Ebberrian]

Looking forward to Night Revels which crashes the game every year? Here comes the brown nosers and fake accounts to spread some cheer and damage control.

People have had enough already of the devs breaking the game while patching it. Its an on going issue and happens to often.

SSG needs to step up their game...

I apologize that you have nothing good to say, but you should keep your negativity to yourself. Want a game that doesn't break? Go play some old fashioned D&D. I'm aware of issues, as I've been a player of DDO since 2009. But, I still enjoy the game. If you don't, find a different game. Simple as that.

[Ebberrian]

I mean, it's great that their team is working tirelessly...

But to whoever said it's impossible to know what's going to happen with code - there seems to be a lack of understanding. Programmers predict before release possible errors. They run simulations. Then - they release.

To those who are defending SSG - I have given them more money this year than I gave WoW from Blizzard when I was playing them - the FTP concept is not a reason to defend bad programming. They make their money.

How often did WoW have a bad patch that they didn't fix immediately? Almost never. Because of the monthly subscribers - they value their customers.

Does SSG not have VIP? Does SSG not sell DDO points for outrageous amounts of money?

Now - don't get me wrong. I am not complaining about the money. I do indeed enjoy the game...

But hires while an amazing concept have repeatedly been broken in reality - for YEARS. And customer concerns are not addressed. Some of the major concerns I notice are: Hire refuses to heal/doesn't heal/ is late to heal (But will res immediately afterwards as though he just "hadn't healed in time"), Hire can't keep up when following increased movement speed (Causing huge delay for combat arrival), Hire dives into obvious traps like he/she wants to die, Hire set to attack heals more often than hire on defense but WHEN hire is set to attack, he/she runs every which way they please, either pulling aggro or not being near you and paying attention while you are with an entirely different mob.)...

Ease of use is terrible. Why are things moved one at a time, (I.E. inventory, buying/selling, banking,) barely explained in game (Causing a need to constantly be on WIKI)?

Why, to switch between servers, do I have to quit the game and reload it?

Cosmetics, while cool, do not have much variety without having specific gear. On top of that, I have to log out to see the front of my character - what a waste of time!

Why - when I hit favor rewards I have to look around to talk to someone and "claim" the reward?

And finally - everyone raves about the graphics - they really aren't that good. They remind me of Vampire: the masquerade redemption - a 20+ year old pc game.

All that said, this "Step your game up" is fair to say. I don't feel bad in the least. Is it really that hard to be competitive with better companies when you are making a good amount? Worse thing that will happen is customer base will increase and theyll make more money. As it is now, new people quit fairly quickly (and likely some of the issues I pointed out lead to this).

While simulations can be ran, they're just that, simulations. Also, SSG is managing two games whereas WoW has a dedicated technical staff, while I'm not sure DDO does. You're complaining about cosmetics and such, and not being able to see the front of your character, these are all simply user issues. If you feel the need to stare at your character, 8, 4, 6, and 2 on the num pad can be used to to rotate your camera..you're welcome! As far as your lavish taste, might I suggest playing a game like IMVU? Plenty of styles to choose from. The graphics aren't dated, you simply don't have yours set to the best options, though that might be an issue with your video software not being able to run the top graphics with peak performance. Favor rewards, you have to choose the corresponding representative of the faction instead of it giving it to you..ouch. A whole 30 seconds wasted looking for an NPC. The inventory management can be a bit difficult, but it's to promote you to keep only the best items that can be used immediately. That's all I have for you. Please, enjoy the remainder of your time with DDO.

[DJSDJS]

While simulations can be ran, they're just that, simulations. Also, SSG is managing two games whereas WoW has a dedicated technical staff, while I'm not sure DDO does. You're complaining about cosmetics and such, and not being able to see the front of your character, these are all simply user issues. If you feel the need to stare at your character, 8, 4, 6, and 2 on the num pad can be used to to rotate your camera..you're welcome! As far as your lavish taste, might I suggest playing a game like IMVU? Plenty of styles to choose from. The graphics aren't dated, you simply don't have yours set to the best options, though that might be an issue with your video software not being able to run the top graphics with peak performance. Favor rewards, you have to choose the corresponding representative of the faction instead of it giving it to you..ouch. A whole 30 seconds wasted looking for an NPC. The inventory management can be a bit difficult, but it's to promote you to keep only the best items that can be used immediately. That's all I have for you. Please, enjoy the remainder of your time with DDO.

I appreciate your attempt at empathy and your defense of the game. I also appreciate the respect with which you replied. Therefore, I will continue this dialogue because those things are rare.

That said, I agree with your first point, which doesn't dispute my point with programming. They go hand in hand and still do not solve the issue.

Cosmetics, I find interesting that you are able to see the front of your character. Perhaps I am doing something wrong! But when I rotate the camera using right mouse button it goes everywhere but the front. Additionally, the camera rotation you have pointed out to me did the same when I had it (I will have to test again and remap those keys). If there's a way to do it that I have missed I would be grateful to know. Otherwise - perhaps it's just my setup or something...I will look into it and get back to you. Keep in mind, I don't have to constantly look at my character. But in WoW, every piece of armor, even looking at the AH, brings up a window with the front view of your character and how they would look wearing it. It was less of a complaint and more a suggestion since it seems a worthy feature to upgrade and implement for people.

I do disagree about the graphics. Even comparing WoW artistry to DDO artistry there is a difference. My machine is on the best settings but there isn't that much detail. I mean, final fantasy XIV is better looking, WoW is better looking, practically every MMORPG I have ever played is better looking. This game lags and is buggy with so many things I didn't even list where others are not. So, I just don't think you brushing it off will convince me.

Some examples which is more vibrant and detailed?
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dunge...ImageId,11717/
or
https://www.gamingcfg.com/img/4279/Fishbot-5000.jpg


How about is this more realistic than DDO?
http://bhagpuss.blogspot.com/2019/07...ope-ffxiv.html

If you remember Asheron's Call from like a million years ago, that's like DDO graphics:
https://kotaku.com/the-final-moments...all-1791833779

Which moves me to the next point about them managing two games. I don't see the point of bringing that up. If they are taking on more projects, more responsibility, and generating more income - then they should hire project teams appropriately. This isn't like Panera Bread short on employees.

Favor rewards, I will concede, is not that big of a deal on its own. But I do think it's representative of many things which DDO throws in to waste time. Inventory, for instance, big time waster. But I think it's weird that you think it has the purpose to encourage people to choose the best inventory items. They already do that with dissolving and crafting. It has nothing to do with efficiency. And besides, if I wanted a ton of inventory to look through, I would naturally organize and delete some! I don't need the program telling me I have to. And regardless, I was talking about ease of use. Why, for instance, can't I "select all"? All it encourages is less fun playing the game and more meaningless chore. And sure, grinding on any game can feel that way. But it's not like they do that in place of grinding - they do it in ADDITION to grinding. These suggestions are simple ease of use modifications. I can't quite understand why someone would defend SSG here. You like clunky time wasting? That's your alternative point of view?

Anyway, I hope this finds you well. I'm glad to have a respectful debate about it. And I can only hope it falls upon the right eyes.

[Fedora1]

hi - I know that some people are saying that after the downtime today, that they are able now to login.

I am able to login with some characters, but others still get stuck on the loading screen trying to enter the world.

Same here. Some okay, some not okay. Stuck on loading screen after character selection. Even tried the "Transport to Eveningstar" option (he was in Eberron), no luck.

Edit: I'm also getting a lot of "Getting in line to connect" long waits and then dc'd when I select a server.

[Blah2]

I mean, it's great that their team is working tirelessly...

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Cosmetics, while cool, do not have much variety without having specific gear. On top of that, I have to log out to see the front of my character - what a waste of time!

Why - when I hit favor rewards I have to look around to talk to someone and "claim" the reward?

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How can you like cosmetics and not like having to run around to gain favor .

They are BOTH types of game immersion. So either you WANT game immersion or you do NOT. If you think having to run around to get favor rewards is a waste of resources so are cosmetics. I get the argument for quality of life vs fluff, but some people would rather see cosmetics removed than resources spent on cosmetics AND easier favor turn in. Personally I despise role playing, cosmetics, and most game immersion aspects.

[Blah2]

I apologize that you have nothing good to say, but you should keep your negativity to yourself. Want a game that doesn't break? Go play some old fashioned D&D. I'm aware of issues, as I've been a player of DDO since 2009. But, I still enjoy the game. If you don't, find a different game. Simple as that.

Nah. im glad he posted his issues with Night Revels .Hope they remove events from the game to fix ALL these new issues and give us a pick em box for each canceled event

[Blah2]

While simulations can be ran, they're just that, simulations. Also, SSG is managing two games whereas WoW has a dedicated technical staff, while I'm not sure DDO does. You're complaining about cosmetics and such, and not being able to see the front of your character, these are all simply user issues. If you feel the need to stare at your character, 8, 4, 6, and 2 on the num pad can be used to to rotate your camera..you're welcome! As far as your lavish taste, might I suggest playing a game like IMVU? Plenty of styles to choose from. The graphics aren't dated, you simply don't have yours set to the best options, though that might be an issue with your video software not being able to run the top graphics with peak performance. Favor rewards, you have to choose the corresponding representative of the faction instead of it giving it to you..ouch. A whole 30 seconds wasted looking for an NPC. The inventory management can be a bit difficult, but it's to promote you to keep only the best items that can be used immediately. That's all I have for you. Please, enjoy the remainder of your time with DDO.

Can we get cool -aid in taverns please ? Cause someone is drinking it

[DJSDJS]

How can you like cosmetics and not like having to run around to gain favor .

They are BOTH types of game immersion. So either you WANT game immersion or you do NOT. If you think having to run around to get favor rewards is a waste of resources so are cosmetics. I get the argument for quality of life vs fluff, but some people would rather see cosmetics removed than resources spent on cosmetics AND easier favor turn in. Personally I despise role playing, cosmetics, and most game immersion aspects.

Please see above if you are confused about the issues I've brought up.

Also, that is certainly interesting to tell me what I can and cannot like. Have you considered the possibility of being able to enjoy and critique aspects of both game immersion and gameplay? I am sorry you don't like any aspect of game immersion...

[vryxnr]

Just a quick interjection with regards to being able to see your characters face/front: there is a keymapping option called Orbit. Make sure it's assigned to something. Then, when you hold down that key, moving your mouse will cause the camera to orbit around your character, thus allowing you to see your front in game without having to go back to the character select menu.

[JLintheForum]

I was able to login around 2PM CST, but logged out for an hour and can now no longer log in to Khyber. I was able to log in to Hardcore, but I kinda want to play my main this weekend.

[Silverleafeon]

Taking the saying:

"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.."

to heart at the moment to log in.



Lag while promoting people and multiple attempts to log in.

Since things seem to get a bit better after a restart, perhaps build up or population affects the problem.

[Silverleafeon]

(UserChat1): [openguild] ______: 'my party leader left & the hireling was promoted to leader star'


I see the real problem: after years of loyal service the hirelings have joined the kobolds in revolt!


(UserChat1): [openguild] _____: 'They have seen sooo much and they are sick and tired of being treated like 2nd class they are steping up and getting things done :P'


(UserChat1): [openguild] _______: 'aye! Give me liberty or gimme death, power for the hire...'

[TitusOvid]

I just encountered epic orchard mobs in heroic orchard. They were CR: 16, thank god. It was on hardcore.

[cdbd3rd]

No luck here logging onto HC server. As above, progress bar after selecting character never moves.

Tried Thelanis next. Got in, went to collect the freebies. Open Store, game froze. Close Store, game CtD.

Logged back into Thel. Got in, got my goodies. Logged out.

Tried HC again, same again, no progress after character selection.

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I have no TR's anywhere on the playing field. I do have a +1LR set up on one of my HC characters who died before getting to use it. (don't ask)

[sago]

We are continuing to investigate an issue causing players to not be able to log into a game world. We will keep you updated.

I was having trouble logging in ... I got in ...but night revels dark chocolate candy quest
in Delera's is messed up ... Not all of the groups at the entrance are spawning.

[Cordovan]

We have made a change that appears to be resolving long load times and stuck load screens for many, and also appears to be improving the general game environment. There are still issues to be corrected for some players who are currently unable to reincarnate, and an issue where the Night Revels landscape instance is both not spawning its correct enemy numbers and awarding expired chocolates.

[dennisck2]

Is this going to be fixed any time soon? I'm glad you're responding, Cordavan. I appreciate you letting us know you're working on it. But this is getting a bit out of hand.

Edit: I'm having trouble even logging in, now. This is crazy. Shut it down and fix it if need be. Just please fix it.