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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnFlory View Post
    What do you really want? Every class to be viable in R10? Because that's a ridiculous wish to have. Barb is one of the strongest in early levels, one of the strongest in mid levels, falls off a bit in late heroics before being among the strongest in epics. Is he a useful r10 build? Of course not, because r10 has nothing to do with this game. r10 is a playground for exploiting very specific aspects. You don't balance all classes around a difficulty that is utterly irrelevant for almost all players, because if you do that everything else will be absolutely unplayable.
    Make it r1 then, not r10. I can outkill and outplay a barb easily on any META build, while at the same time a barb could start having difficulties completing legendary contant even on lowish difficulties (r2-5).

    The insta kills work even on r10 in some of the quest that are currently farmed for RXP at cap. But that's because those are "easy" quests, which is the reason why people run them to begin with.

    Barb is weak nowadays; it was strong when time to kill was lower, incoming damage more manageable, and its DPS was not too far from top dogs.

    Barb needs to better at DPS, and its abilities (rage, speed, durability) need to be brought back to current levels.

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    On r1 noone outclassed my Barb except for Sorc/FavS. And Sorc don't have the durability my Barb had. I'm saying all this as someone who changes gear every 5 levels, has no sets and never purposfully farms loot. And Barb still delivers very easily. Even more, once you're in a party, it gets better still. Jump in (again, noone is as fast as you in reality), intimidate (not easy to keep at 100%, but usually good enough), 5 cleaves while everyone else can safely nuke and you have a massive HP buffer for healers to keep you upright. Adrenalin Overload to put in massive single-target DPS when needed that's surprisingly sustainable.
    Is CON-Barb a top-3 build? Of course not. But he's extremely competitive at low reaper if you play him right. All while being very playable at ever point of the game, unlike some builds that only come online at 18 or so.

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    I know barbarians are not that bad... That's why i said some love and not a total do-over. You was playing a dps class, whitch you were using it as a inti-semi-tank with 12 charges of insta-kills. I am pretty sure it was fun but also that, you were glazing hit at 10 with con-based barbarian(i have strengh-based and i am grazing hit at 6 with good wear). That's just bad since my barbarian loses 33% dps on grazing hits and to hit a special attack(trip,stun,etc).

    If you focus on a playstyle with barbarian class you will be semi on anything(dps,tank,cc,insta-kills) and you will never be really be good at anything...

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