1st Barb build, need advice plse

[Bacon_Burger]

PL's 2 ftr, 1 rngr......... + 7 supreme tome..... ViP w/ lesser learning tome H&E.

My goal, high dps, high hp, not gear dependent. (least amount of clickies)

Humans get the extra feat.

Dwarfs look better for more reasons?

Questions for dwarves, take the dwf axe in racial? and go swf or twf? Am I correct to assume swf w/ dwarven axes and get as high a crit multiplier as I can?

(I was told that arti/barb can get crits down to 15? Is this true?)

If I go dwarf, take the con for dmge?

I was going to go all in w/ a dwarf thf GS or GA (again the dwarf tree for GA) until I watched Chacka's video on a 2-man EDQ. Looks like he was swf w/ a dwarven axe?

Anyways. I need help with this. I plan to have 1 toon (17 slots) always in barb, but sonce last update for them I havent run one.

Any and ALL help will be greatly appreciated.

[NemesisAlien]

I thought dwarf gets dwarf axe free? I mean the feat.

[Bacon_Burger]

I thought dwarf gets dwarf axe free? I mean the feat.

They do, that's why I asked how hey would compare to going thf vs swf w/ 1 dwarf axe. And the racial axe training.

I also have questions about how deep to go into dwarf racial tree. Is radiant force field dragon mark worth taking?

Also, armor. what are the trade offs for a barb using medium or heavy armor?

[NemesisAlien]

They do, that's why I asked how hey would compare to going thf vs swf w/ 1 dwarf axe. And the racial axe training.

I also have questions about how deep to go into dwarf racial tree. Is radiant force field dragon mark worth taking?

Also, armor. what are the trade offs for a barb using medium or heavy armor?

Piggyback to ask, worth getting earthgrab?

Duration/cool down of radiant better/ same/worse then spell?

[Bacon_Burger]

Piggyback to ask, worth getting earthgrab?

Duration/cool down of radiant better/ same/worse then spell?

Im asking. Why ask me?

Thanks or the replies btw.

[Bacon_Burger]

Help me people. Ive read the builds on the barb section.

Lots of ideas but little to no feedback as to whats better or not.

I'm heavily leaning towards a pure dwarf barb. I just some feedback to the pro's & cons. AND if going arti/barb is better?

[NemesisAlien]

Im asking. Why ask me?

Thanks or the replies btw.

Not asking you, more like piggyback to ask also.

One thing for sure I'll definitely go for con for damage, the problem is if I remember correctly it cost 10ap, but dont forget, to get top tier you need 15 ap, thats if you dont spend elsewhere, minimum level 4, just before level 5, which is to say you spend level 1 5 with pathetic damage.

[Bacon_Burger]

which is to say you spend level 1 5 with pathetic damage.

From what I read on 2 builds, they waited until mid levels to put in those ap's.

[Bacon_Burger]

Back to a basic question.

Thf, S&B w/ dwarven axe.

If thf great axe or great sword.

Im looking for maximum dps with minimal amount of feats used

[NemesisAlien]

From what I read on 2 builds, they waited until mid levels to put in those ap's.

Most of the builds you read dont kick in until mid level, because you dont get the goodies until level 15 or around there, epic bragging rights, neglect to mention how pathetic they are before 15.

You dump in con 20 and dont use it until level 15? Dont make sense.

[Bacon_Burger]

Again, I need advice on barbs.

So far Ive gotten replies that aren't helping me with my choices. Thanks nemesis, but I need more detailed help

[Soleran100]

Again, I need advice on barbs.

So far Ive gotten replies that aren't helping me with my choices. Thanks nemesis, but I need more detailed help

Go swf, strength for damage.......which means make sure you take enough balance skill points as you lvl up.

Reason for swf (fast attack speeds, still gets thf bonuses for primary damage stat boost)

Strength for damage because if you go dwarf and use con you still have to boost strength for to hit, save your AP for better barb dps options (if you go dwarf.)

That is the simple answer without splits, 20 barb.

[Bacon_Burger]

Go swf, strength for damage.......which means make sure you take enough balance skill points as you lvl up.

Reason for swf (fast attack speeds, still gets thf bonuses for primary damage stat boost)

Strength for damage because if you go dwarf and use con you still have to boost strength for to hit, save your AP for better barb dps options (if you go dwarf.)

That is the simple answer without splits, 20 barb.

ok, thnaks.
Dwarven axe?

Or go blunt w/ war hammer?

[Soleran100]

ok, thnaks.
Dwarven axe?

Or go blunt w/ war hammer?

If you can fit in knights training (https://ddowiki.com/page/Knight%27s_Training) decide what will work best with the weapons you have available or plan to farm.

[ifumoveudie]

Starting off, THF has taken the backseat to SWF in a major way over the last couple of years. I used to play exclusively either a maul or great axe Barb for many years. I have been moving into more SWF builds recently, and doing a lot more splashing. That said, my answer depends on your interest in splashes. Do you want a pure Barbarian, or can you stand losing a bit to splash for better mitigation and more DPS?

12 barb 5 Bard 3 Wiz.
Wiz will give you a few low hanging deffensive buffs to use before hitting rage, Improved Mage Armor grants you additional HP, and Improved Shield is a must have for those pesky magic missles, plus elemental imbues and perma ghost touch for every weapon you use.

Bard for the insane attack speed boost, dodge bonuses and movement speed that stacks with Barb speed. My Bards usually hit for +75% melee attack speed bonus by level 15.

I would go Dwarf, spend the 18 AP for TYWA and use handaxes while Swashbuckling. Con will be your main stat, with Str and Wis just behind those two.

This would be probably one of the best ideas I can think of off the top of my head for a Barb heavy build that is mid to high DPS, a lot of damage mitigation through dodge and gobs of HP as well as faster than almost anything else out there in light armor.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

[ifumoveudie]

Also, for a pure build that focuses on destroying everything, here is a build that I had a ton of success with into the high(r5+) reaper range.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...e-flavor-Build

It is not a true first life build, and 4 of my Con came from reaper points, but if you are not planning on running reaper, then this will have a no fail Visage on almost anything but Drow and Abiashi(70-90% proc rate).

[HungarianRhapsody]

Back to a basic question.

Thf, S&B w/ dwarven axe.

If thf great axe or great sword.

Im looking for maximum dps with minimal amount of feats used

leveling or endgame? Leveling there is Carnifex at 4 and that’s lovely until you get your next exciting weapon. Hard to beat Carnifex at early levels. After that it’s more about what weapons you have than it is about what hypothetical weapon that you don’t have that’s best.

mat least until end game when you can farm a weapon for a while.

[ifumoveudie]

I wholeheartedly agree. I routinely use Carnifex until 12 when I switch to Greenstell stuff.

[palladin9479]

Just finished running Barb x 3 with the last one being to 30 to play around in epics before I do double TR, few notes.

For heroic lives THF is great because the mobs have low enough HP that glancing blows can actually kill stuff. Into epics it really starts to slow down though as crits and double strikes start stacking your main attack swing to mean more, plus Perfect THF is very lack luster compared to the other two. Without huge racial PL investments all Racial tree's are pretty much a noob trap, don't bother with TYWA. Most of the folks posting builds around them are really just showing off their racial completionist.

20 Barb is awesome, the Capstone on Frenzied is pretty insane and you'll be running around with large amounts of HP. The two T5 choices are Frenzied for damage and Ravager for self heals depending on which way you wanna run things, either way I mostly did 41 points in Frenzied to hit the capstone and about 37 points in Ravager for the T5 so I could solo Epic Reaper. Pure DPS with no healing, so someone else is taking care of that, would be around 31 in Ravager the 41~45 in Frenzied with the T5's and the rest in racial or occult for low hanging fruit.

Cool tip, SWF doesn't mean you have your off hand empty, you can slot in an orb even without the feat for extra stats or an easier adherents of the mists for those bonus's.