Hardcore has been lag free. Why not other servers?

[redoubt]

Did SSG pull resources from the other servers to power HCL?

I know Sarlona is lagging worse since HCL started.

At any rate, its proven that the servers can be made lag free. Why not make the regular servers lag free too?

[Aelonwy]

Does it though? No one on the HC server has a TR cache. I wonder exactly how much does the TR cache add to lag because I know on the characters I have with a TR cache they experience more lag at the bank, and it seems like longer logging time too. Both logging in as well as logging off. And does that logging on/off affect others?

[Memnir]

It really hasn't been. But if you've had better lag - I'm honestly happy for you.

[CaptainPurge]

Did SSG pull resources from the other servers to power HCL?

I know Sarlona is lagging worse since HCL started.

At any rate, its proven that the servers can be made lag free. Why not make the regular servers lag free too?

You don't have the massive bank and TR caches to deal with. Also:

1. Foreign life forms, inventory
2. Suspended state of cryogenics

[Greantun]

Does it though? No one on the HC server has a TR cache. I wonder exactly how much does the TR cache add to lag because I know on the characters I have with a TR cache they experience more lag at the bank, and it seems like longer logging time too. Both logging in as well as logging off. And does that logging on/off affect others?

You also don't have near the number of characters in the databases, as most people I see, when they die, are just deleting and recreating them.

I know for myself I only have one character, no TR Cache, very little in the personal bank, and don't get enough stuff to want to transfer back, so I delete and restart.

[Quikster]

Live servers also have hundreds of instances compared to HCL server having most people grouped in a few low level places. Not a ton of guild ships/buffs on everyone. All the past lives and stances. Multiple effects on everyone’s weapons etc. I think the overall load is much lower on HCL server even with the popularity.

[Grandern_Marn]

The Hardcore server also has more death.
The great freeing of souls appeases the lag monster.

[DareDelvis]

It really hasn't been. But if you've had better lag - I'm honestly happy for you.

I have experienced several episodes of lag and each has caused been the equivalent of a short cardio stress test as I feared that I would be dead once the lag storm had passed.

[Chai]

Does it though? No one on the HC server has a TR cache. I wonder exactly how much does the TR cache add to lag because I know on the characters I have with a TR cache they experience more lag at the bank, and it seems like longer logging time too. Both logging in as well as logging off. And does that logging on/off affect others?

We've (myself and other associates) posted this in many threads and it gets shouted down often, for reasons we believe have nothing to do with lag, and more to do with people not wanting their "free" storage to go away.

It seems to be the single largest difference here, and I wonder if this is being investigated.

[Drunkendex]

I know Sarlona is lagging worse since HCL started.

This I can confirm.

and in my case I did not TR in meantime, and actually have removed bunch of stuff from TR cache. and my bank is half empty.

By "large TR cache = lag" my lag should have gone down, not up.

[Kerranin]

The reasons I personally attribute this to the appearance of hard core servers is the nature of the lag I am seeing.

When I've been soloing over the past week, I've had a number of occassions, on different dungeons, where the dungeon has just stopped responding, I can move around but levers cannot be pulled, doors cannot be opened, remnants cannot be picked up, and I cannot recall out of the dungeon. I've been forced into killing DDO on each occassion.

As I said this has happened in at least 3 different dungeons, so doesn't appear to be dungeon specific, but does appear to have started after the last maintenance period.

Last night we were running an Old Baba's raid when suddenly the lag monster kicks in during the 2nd hut phase, and lasts for about a minute killing almost everyone, this was hard-lag preventing anything happening. This is more like previous instances of lag, but more extreme duration and intensity.

I think there is good reason to suspect SSG have changed load balance to favour the hard-core servers (to try and make that a success), and in so doing have crippled everyone else.

PS I don't blame people playing on the hard-core server, but I do blame SSG.

[Cantor]

I have experienced several episodes of lag and each has caused been the equivalent of a short cardio stress test as I feared that I would be dead once the lag storm had passed.

I lost a character yesterday to lag. Complete lockdown. Luckily I had a backup only 2 levels behind on similar build to hop into my group.

[Cernunan]

False! I lost my first lvl 19 to lag death in the mines in Eveningstar. Last night I almost died in a challenge when lag hit and I could not move while 4 scorps chomped me down to 23 hp before I could move.
The server becomes more laggy by the day

[boredGamer]

I love the assumptions and call to action being made with nearly zero actual knowledge or data (as far as i know - and certainly as far as anyone has said so far in this thread)

As I've said in other threads, any actual knowledge of architecture, performance, or any real metrics would be very interesting, but as far as I know, we don't have any of that.

It would be interesting for devs to take a look at performance of hardcore versus non - given they should know the things above - but that's about it from a call to action standpoint.

[sabella]

I lost a character yesterday to lag. Complete lockdown. Luckily I had a backup only 2 levels behind on similar build to hop into my group.

This. I lag no matter what (pretty sure it’s my computer not ddo), but the rest of my group doesn’t. They’re still getting some lag on hardcore. I lost a toon to lag. We all have a couple of back-ups because we die