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    So Im running a pure arti inq......

    I know there is more dps out there, but it has been solid.

    i usually tr at 20 and go back but having fun and may go to 30.

    if i do that i want to make sure im not missing any major feats


    so here goes

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    True Neutral Drow - for racials - any races works


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
    Strength. . . . .8. . . .+5. . . .4: INT
    Dexterity . . . 16. . . .+5. . . .8: INT
    Constitution. . 14. . . .+5. . . 12: INT
    Intelligence. . 20. . . .+5. . . 16: INT
    Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+5. . . 20: INT
    Charisma. . . . 10. . . .+5. . . 24: INT
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: INT


    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Disable . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Open Lo . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Search. . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Haggle. . 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    UMD . . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Diplo . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    Jump. . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .36 10 10. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 7
    . . . . .36 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 14



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
    .3. . . . : Rapid Shot
    .4 Arti . : Precise Shot
    .6. . . . : Completionist
    .8 Arti . : Empower Spell
    .9. . . . : Precision
    12. . . . : Improved Critical: Ranged
    12 Arti . : Maximize Spell
    15. . . . : Improved Precise Shot
    16 Arti . : Empower Healing Spell
    18. . . . : Construct Essence
    20 Arti . : Improved Construct Essence
    21 Epic . : Combat Archery
    24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    26 Destiny: Holy Strike
    27 Epic . : Construct Exemplar
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Harbinger of Chaos
    30 Epic . : Blinding Speed
    30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane
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    That looks great. What are you using as a basic gear layout? You'd need all the ranged doubleshot goodies plus maybe repair SP?

    I've been trying to figure out a good hybrid setup for a melee caster hybrid (pale trapper build), but a bow/caster hybrid is basically the same with doubleshot traded out for doublestrike. I'm assuming you run mostly slaver's + rloft from 10 until 15 then sharn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodwraith View Post
    That looks great. What are you using as a basic gear layout? You'd need all the ranged doubleshot goodies plus maybe repair SP?

    I've been trying to figure out a good hybrid setup for a melee caster hybrid (pale trapper build), but a bow/caster hybrid is basically the same with doubleshot traded out for doublestrike. I'm assuming you run mostly slaver's + rloft from 10 until 15 then sharn?
    atm im using a 3 piece slavers +sa +mists

    i dont have a lot of sharn stuff for ranged

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    Quicken vs (maybe Empower)? Being able to get off a fast reconstruct or cocoon could be a lifesaver. Since you're going Inq, empower might be swappable for it with the least impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabidfox View Post
    Quicken vs (maybe Empower)? Being able to get off a fast reconstruct or cocoon could be a lifesaver. Since you're going Inq, empower might be swappable for it with the least impact.
    atm yes that is a better plan.

    i was planning on using max/empower/empower healing for sla from mastermaker. but havnt needed that yet lol


    probably will use more in epics
    one more level and i can fart blade barriers as im kiting
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    I might try to squeeze ICE in sooner so you can take advantage of your Repair heals. You get Recon at 15, but of course you can take it as an SLA early on, then respec to BE later when you get the spell itself.

    Right before you take 12, I might swap out Empower for CE with Fred, then take ICE with the L12 Arti feat, then take Precision and Maximize later on.

    At any rate, you dont want to take CE without ICE. CE by itself will only ensure that both Repair and Positive heals are equally inadequate. So either take them simultaneously at 12, or do a retroactive Fred swap for the prereq. You definitely dont want to be CE-only from 18 to 20, that's probably the worst possible time to split those out, since you'll be gimped in the hardest part of Heroic, trying to push to 20.

    You could also push Emp Heal back to 20. You wont get much use out of it until you're in Epic hitting Cocoons anyway.

    Agree, swap Empower for Quicken, at least at 20 if not the whole way.

    Also keep in mind you can go Inq+BE for all-out DPS too, forego the defense+heals in RMM if they arent proving necessary. More DPS is always useful, but more defense is often overkill...and its fairly painless to swap between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    I might try to squeeze ICE in sooner so you can take advantage of your Repair heals. You get Recon at 15, but of course you can take it as an SLA early on, then respec to BE later when you get the spell itself.

    Right before you take 12, I might swap out Empower for CE with Fred, then take ICE with the L12 Arti feat, then take Precision and Maximize later on.

    At any rate, you dont want to take CE without ICE. CE by itself will only ensure that both Repair and Positive heals are equally inadequate. So either take them simultaneously at 12, or do a retroactive Fred swap for the prereq. You definitely dont want to be CE-only from 18 to 20, that's probably the worst possible time to split those out, since you'll be gimped in the hardest part of Heroic, trying to push to 20.

    You could also push Emp Heal back to 20. You wont get much use out of it until you're in Epic hitting Cocoons anyway.

    Agree, swap Empower for Quicken, at least at 20 if not the whole way.

    Also keep in mind you can go Inq+BE for all-out DPS too, forego the defense+heals in RMM if they arent proving necessary. More DPS is always useful, but more defense is often overkill...and its fairly painless to swap between the two.
    grr your so right.

    i switched things up and took ce at 16. i am regretting it so much right now.

    so much i may just switch it out.

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    I'm planning an pure arti inq for next life and had a very similar feat spread but with a focus on maximizing dps. For consideration:

    .1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
    .3. . . . : Rapid Shot
    .4 Arti . : Precise Shot
    .6. . . . : Completionist
    .8 Arti . : Weapon Focus: Ranged
    .9. . . . : Precision
    12. . . . : Dodge
    12 Arti . : Improved Critical: Ranged
    15. . . . : Improved Precise Shot
    16 Arti . : Quicken
    18. . . . : Mobility
    20 Arti . : Shot on the Run
    21 Epic . : Combat Archery
    24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    26 Destiny: Holy Strike
    27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Harbinger of Chaos
    30 Epic . : Undecided (Insightful Reflex possibly)
    30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobgoblin View Post
    So Im running a pure arti inq......

    Feats

    20 Arti . : Improved Construct Essence
    You should review the Artificer bonus feats. Improved Construct Essence is not on the list. Your best bet is to take this at 12 and do construct essence as your bonus artificer skill at 12 and improved construct essence as your regular feat. But why not just do warforged instead? It seems like you are wasting a feat by not running WF and admixtures provide plenty of healing power if you are a fleshie i.e. no need to take any of the construct line and you can use the extra feats for something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCamb02140 View Post
    You should review the Artificer bonus feats. Improved Construct Essence is not on the list. Your best bet is to take this at 12 and do construct essence as your bonus artificer skill at 12 and improved construct essence as your regular feat. But why not just do warforged instead? It seems like you are wasting a feat by not running WF and admixtures provide plenty of healing power if you are a fleshie i.e. no need to take any of the construct line and you can use the extra feats for something else.
    o i needed the drow for racial. wf would be better. lol and the planner let me take it then.

    however, my plan for future is to take it at 16 with a feat swap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCamb02140 View Post
    You should review the Artificer bonus feats. Improved Construct Essence is not on the list. Your best bet is to take this at 12 and do construct essence as your bonus artificer skill at 12 and improved construct essence as your regular feat. But why not just do warforged instead? It seems like you are wasting a feat by not running WF and admixtures provide plenty of healing power if you are a fleshie i.e. no need to take any of the construct line and you can use the extra feats for something else.
    when i do wf, the 2 feats i save will probably go to addy body, and insightful reflexes

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    since someone asked - here is my current gear setup.

    not quite happy still hunting stuff


    Head: leg wallwatch
    Neck: zulkash ward - replace with leg family neck
    Trinket: cc: dodge parrying ins con 7- dont like but not sure what else
    Cloak: Leg phasecloak
    Belt: Heroic bronzedragonscale - replaced with slavers sheltering and q str
    Ring1: heroic sapphire ring - replaced with leg version
    Gloves: leg wildwood
    Boots: slavers con 17 con 4 resistance 14
    Ring 2: leg shattered onyx - do i need this?
    Bracers: bracers of twisting shade
    Armor: leg wildwood
    Eyes: leg acolytes lenses - collective sight leg probably con

    Weapon: morninglord
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    ok so finally getting away from 30.

    etr

    for feats -


    Point Blank Shot
    Rapid Shot
    Precise Shot
    Completionist
    Empower Spell - dont need this - what here?
    Precision
    Improved Critical: Ranged
    Maximize Spell - this i dont think i need - switch out for what? rogue pl?
    Improved Precise Shot
    Empower Healing Spell - this i really dont need - what can i take instead?
    Construct Essence
    Improved Construct Essence
    Combat Archery
    Overwhelming Critical
    Holy Strike
    Construct Exemplar - not needed what here?
    Doubleshot
    Harbinger of Chaos
    Blinding Speed
    Scion of: Ethereal Plane

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