Multi-Patch/Update Preview: Named Loot

[Cocomajobo]

Hey all! This is the named look that'll drop in U43. It contains some set items, some items not in any sets, two new sets of Filigree, and two new Minor Artifacts.

As always, constructive feedback is a lot easier to reply to than anything else. Keep it clean, folks

These are Heroic level 17, Epic level 29. The Filigree will be added to the Generation 2 pool, the Artifacts will drop randomly in this pack (note that ONLY these two artifacts will drop in this pack - it's not one big pool of Artifacts). Heroic and Epic items match Sharn and level 17 CC's Power Levels exactly, no power level jumps. I've transcribed the Artifacts because it's not always clear what numbers will end up where Oh, and, this will use the Nearly Finished crafting system for a few more Nearly Finished items. Same costs to complete items, these chests will drop the same ingredients, etc etc. It'll all work out the way you hope it will.

ARTIFACTS

Doctor Vulcana's Wristwatch - Level 29 Bracers

• Insightful Intelligence +10
• Combat Mastery/Tactics +18
• Quality Resistance +4
• Protection +18

Doctor LeRoux's Curious Implant - Level 29 Necklace

• Insightful Wisdom +10
• Insightful Healing Amplification +47
• Quality Healing Amplification +24
• Quality Physical Resistance Rating +14

SET ITEMS

Feywild Dreamer Set

• Heroic Set Bonus: +25 Sonic, Force, Light, Acid Spell Power, +5% Sonic, Force, Light, Acid Spell Crit, +2 Cha, +1 Spell Focus Mastery
• Epic Set Bonus: +50 Sonic, Force, Light, Acid Spell Power, +10% Sonic, Force, Light, Acid Spell Crit, +4 Cha, +3 Spell Focus Mastery

Feycraft Mail - Light Armor (same as sharn armor)
Feyweave Robe - Robe (same as sharn armor)
Glass Heart - Docent (same as sharn armor)
Gossamer Weave - Cloak - Enchantment DC, Illusion DC, Spell Resistance, Spell Penetration
Delicate Thimbletips - Gloves - Magical Efficiency, Insightful Spell Pen, Conjuration DC, Spellcraft

Profane Experiment Set

• Heroic Set Bonus: +2 Sneak Attack Dice, 5% Doublestrike and Doubleshot, +2 INT, +2 CON, +25 Universal Spell Power
• Epic Set Bonus: +3 Sneak Attack Dice, 15% Doublestrike and Doubleshot, +4 INT, +4 CON, +50 Universal Spell Power

Researcher's Leathers - Light Armor (same as sharn armor)
Experiment Garb - Outfit (same as sharn armor)
Sea Legs - Boots - Water Breathing + Swim (scaling version of Underwater action, basically), Ghostly, Doublestrike, Seeker
Lenses of the Dark Depths - Goggles - Quality Assassinate, UMD, Blindness Immunity, Speed
Experimenter's Goggles - Goggles - Search, Spot, Open Lock, Disable Device

Dreadkeeper Set

• Heroic Set Bonus: +25 Negative and Force Spell Power, +5% Negative and Force spell crit, +2 Int, +10 PRR, Boon of Undeath
• Epic Set Bonus: +50 Negative and Force Spell Power, +10% Negative and Force spell crit, +4 Int, +20 PRR, Greater Boon of Undeath

The Blackmail - Medium Armor (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
The Grey Leathers - Light Armor (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Robes of the Dreadkeeper - Robes (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Sinsoul - Docent (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Dusk Shroud - Cloak - Protection, Vitality, Spell resistance, quality PRR
Chains of the Grave - Bracers - Neg Spell Power, Neg Spell Crit Chance, Parrying, Insightful PRR

NON-SET ITEMS

Sunken Chains - Bracers - (QUALITY STR DEX INT), insightful seeker, shatter, stunning

Cloak of Balance - Cloak - (QUALITY STR DEX CON), Freedom of Movement, Seeker, Parrying

Sunken Slippers - Boots - (QUALITY INT WIS CHA) Lesser Displacement, Insightful Potency, Quality Potency

Screamshatter - Light (non-repeating) Crossbow - Sonic, Sonic on Crit, Improved Destruction, Big Huge Lightning Strike Proc (think Stormreaver's Thunderclap)

Tatterchain - Handwraps - Depths Damage (Evil on hit (but does not make weapon evil aligned), also does Cold vs Good Enemies (yes really)), Bone Breaking, Metalline, Weaken Undead

Twisted Missile - Dart - Depths Damage, Vorpal, Maiming, Weaken Undead

The Hook - Sickle - Depths Damage, Limb Chopping, Bleeding, Weaken Undead

Absolute Judgement - Maul - Holy, Law, Evil Outsider Bane, Command (scaling)

FILIGREE SETS

Radiant Shield

• Con
• PRR
• MRR
• Healing Amp
• Armor Class
• +50% Melee Threat Increase

• • Set Bonus
  • 2 Set: +50% Melee Threat Increase
  • 3 Set: +10 MRR
  • 4 Set: Intercession Ward

Voltaic Experiment

• Int
• Doublestrike
• Doubleshot
• Electric Spell Power
• Acid Spell Power

• • Set Bonus
  • 2 Set: +10 Universal Spell Power
  • 3 Set: +2 Doublestrike and Doubleshot

[reywas]

I like that we are getting some nice Palemaster gear, but was the intention of the Deadkeaper set to compete with the Sharn Black Velvet cloak, something that every palemaster will want? Basically just completely invalidated a great item that was just added a couple of months ago in favor of a so so cloak. Is it possible for this to get changed to a different slot? I could see a Shroud as a head slot item.

Edit: now I see that the set gets the undeath boon, and other things could be slotted elsewhere, so it isn't as bad as I first thought. It still seems like a waste to soft remove an item a couple months after release though. Both sets will be used by just a single enhancement line that until the last few updates was undersupported in gear. It seems like these items should be working with each other rather than competing

[Yamani]

So um.... Trinkets????

[Lynnabel]

So um.... Trinkets????

Not in this pack, no. There are no trinkets in Sharn.

[QueenOfTheHook]

Just to be clear, are these items going into sharn or the new quest's chain we are also previewing? And can we like... make these go live yesterday? Someone's assassin just hit 30.

[Cocomajobo]

Just to be clear, are these items going into sharn or the new quest's chain we are also previewing? And can we like... make these go live yesterday? Someone's assassin just hit 30.

These are for the new adventure pack "The Soul Splitter". This adventure pack takes place in the city of Sharn but is not a part of the Masterminds of Sharn expansion/adventure pack.

We can also not make these go live yesterday as we have yet to complete your time travel feature. It's held up in testing. I haven't seen the person assigned to it in a while now that you mention it.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Not in this pack, no. There are no trinkets in Sharn.

I just imagined you designing a single trinket for Sharn and writing the flavor text for it as "There are no trinkets in Sharn..........."

[LightBear]

Can the feycraft mail be medium armor that can be worn by druids plz?
Preferably with a higher dex limit then normal

[CSQ]

I like that we are getting some nice Palemaster gear, but was the intention of the Deadkeaper set to compete with the Sharn Black Velvet cloak, something that every palemaster will want? Basically just completely invalidated a great item that was just added a couple of months ago in favor of a so so cloak. Is it possible for this to get changed to a different slot? I could see a Shroud as a head slot item.

Edit: now I see that the set gets the undeath boon, and other things could be slotted elsewhere, so it isn't as bad as I first thought. It still seems like a waste to soft remove an item a couple months after release though. Both sets will be used by just a single enhancement line that until the last few updates was undersupported in gear. It seems like these items should be working with each other rather than competing

My thoughts exactly.

[Thar]

Dreadkeeper Set

• Heroic Set Bonus: +25 Negative and Force Spell Power, +5% Negative and Force spell crit, +2 Int, +10 PRR, Boon of Undeath
• Epic Set Bonus: +50 Negative and Force Spell Power, +10% Negative and Force spell crit, +4 Int, +20 PRR, Greater Boon of Undeath

The Blackmail - Medium Armor (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
The Grey Leathers - Light Armor (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Robes of the Dreadkeeper - Robes (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Sinsoul - Docent (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Dusk Shroud - Cloak - Protection, Vitality, Spell resistance, quality PRR
Chains of the Grave - Bracers - Neg Spell Power, Neg Spell Crit Chance, Parrying, Insightful PRR

There are a lot of PM items with boon of undeath. Do they stack with the same effect when hit, ie go off 3x if you have 3 effects on your? is this the best option for a set bonus or another +1 necro DC instead to open up the set to force spell casters that don't want to take more damage when hit as not all caster should be pushed to do PM.... roleplayingwise, i never liked the choice in ddo...

[Arkat]

Absolute Judgement - Maul - Holy, Law, Evil Outsider Bane, Command (scaling)

Judgment

[Loromir]

Judgment

While "Judgment" is the predominant spelling of the word...."judgement" is not necessarily incorrect.

https://www.writing-skills.com/60-se...nt-or-judgment

[reywas]

Dreadkeeper Set

• Heroic Set Bonus: +25 Negative and Force Spell Power, +5% Negative and Force spell crit, +2 Int, +10 PRR, Boon of Undeath
• Epic Set Bonus: +50 Negative and Force Spell Power, +10% Negative and Force spell crit, +4 Int, +20 PRR, Greater Boon of Undeath

The Blackmail - Medium Armor (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
The Grey Leathers - Light Armor (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Robes of the Dreadkeeper - Robes (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Sinsoul - Docent (same as sharn armor except with Negative Amp)
Dusk Shroud - Cloak - Protection, Vitality, Spell resistance, quality PRR
Chains of the Grave - Bracers - Neg Spell Power, Neg Spell Crit Chance, Parrying, Insightful PRR

Is it also intended to leave off the +3 DCs that every other caster set from sharn enjoys?

If you move shroud to another slot (leaving Black Velvet Capelet free to take the cloak slot), you could replace Boon of Undeath for Spell DCs if it is a matter of number of set bonuses. This way, you aren't invalidating a recently released item and the set is on par with the DCs of every other caster set released in Sharn. I like the set overall, it just doesn't play well with just released palemaster items and is lacking in the DC department, something that every other caster set, regardless of type, has.

From the Esoteric Initiate set, this set has worse DCs and is much more narrowly focused. A pure palemaster DC casting wizard would still be better off with that set with +15% to all crit (including force and neg) and the 30 Universal spell power and the +4 spell DCs and just slot the Capelet for Boon. And in comparison to Warforged EKs with the Arcsteel Battlemage set, this set for fleshy, undead EKs has less types boosted (2 compared to 4), and doesn't get the same DC boost. The only advantage this set has is 20 PRR, which I don't think should also mean removing DCs on a class that is all DC casting.

Please consider adding +3 Spell DCs to this set to match the other casting sets. If you have to, remove the Boon and change shroud to a different location so palemasters can slot the capelet instead.

[Shedrakzo]

I know this might sound a bit weird, but is the PM set designed for melees or casters? As it stands, it feels like a bit of a weird hybrid. Why not split the set in two; one for casters and one for melee PMs?

From an itemization stand point, it feels like the set as is doesn't warrant trying to swap it out for one of the Sharn sets for either type of role. And the set bonus itself feels a bit generic rather since it tries to cater to both sides. Most players will say they play PMs as DC casters and that's fine. But the negative spellpower and crit, PRR, and Greater Boon of Undeath feel like this set was almost designed for a melee PM with an additional +4 int to cover the bases for casters.

So is it too late in the dev cycle to ask for a secondary set to be made and to make one definitely melee with bonuses in that regard (spellpower, doublestrike/melee power, and boon of undeath) and the other caster (stats, DCs, boon of undeath, etc)?

[reywas]

I know this might sound a bit weird, but is the PM set designed for melees or casters? As it stands, it feels like a bit of a weird hybrid. Why not split the set in two; one for casters and one for melee PMs?

From an itemization stand point, it feels like the set as is doesn't warrant trying to swap it out for one of the Sharn sets for either type of role. And the set bonus itself feels a bit generic rather since it tries to cater to both sides. Most players will say they play PMs as DC casters and that's fine. But the negative spellpower and crit, PRR, and Greater Boon of Undeath feel like this set was almost designed for a melee PM with an additional +4 int to cover the bases for casters.

So is it too late in the dev cycle to ask for a secondary set to be made and to make one definitely melee with bonuses in that regard (spellpower, doublestrike/melee power, and boon of undeath) and the other caster (stats, DCs, boon of undeath, etc)?

It's worth noting that the other Arcane melee set, the Arcsteel Battlemage set for Artificers and Warforged Wizards also has DCs. I think this set would be fine as a single set iff they added the +3 DC that every caster set that isn't esoteric initiate gets. Otherwise, it is specifically worse than all the other hybrid casters (as they still get +DCs in heavier armor) and the Esoteric Initiate set (Which would have more neg crit with the +15% universal crit) and has +4 Int/DCs. Probably too late to make an entirely new set, but this one can take some buffing to make it workable. I am fine with it being somewhere in the middle of caster and melee, but it shouldn't be just plain worse than other armored caster sets.

[jskinner937]

Druids Curse chain on heroic should definitely be on this list. I would even say Inspirational Quarters Quests are underperforming for XP as well.

And I see the second madness chain is on there but if a chain needs tamed down it is this one.

[pjw]

1. The sets all seem designed to conflict with Sharn sets (ie. they all use armour slot), yet the caster ones do not provide Artifact bonus to DCs. Is this intended and/or will there be more sets?

2. Any chance of getting a Sharn light armour in the caster set in the near future?

3. Any chance of introducing caster variant of all the Ravenloft weapons (at least from the token trader) in the near future? Ditto caster weapons of all types in Sharn.

4. Boon of undeath is cool and fun, but on elite+ it has limited utility (it becomes a few % DR). Worse, this makes an entire set much less interesting to non-PMs. It might be worth putting it on an alternate version of a set item, and adding Artifact DC bonus for the set.

5. Insightful DCs on the boots would be GREAT instead of insightful potency. There is only one non-raid item that has +4 insightful at the moment, and it's a Ravenloft scepter (hence my request in (3)).

[Carpone]

Why is Legendary Screamshatter 5[W] compared to 5.5[W] for Legendary Nightshade Shooter?

[Eryhn]

so when I look at that insight WIS/hamp/q PRR necklace, Im like, yeah, that is a nice stat combo. I wanna wear that ... idk, on a monk, on a cleric, on a fvs, on anything that can fit it rly and makes use of WIS.

THEN, i go and look, ok so these builds that could make use of this item and be happy wearing it, what kind of other items, say sets do they wear?


and then im like, ok I cant wear it on wis based melee cause family recruit sigil ...

I wont use it on a tank that wants extra hamp and a slight boost to aasimar self heals ... cause it conflicts with the tank set too ...


so er, that leaves casters? BUT, there is that neck thing with divine caster level + ... so, idk ....


bottom line is, this looks like a nice item, but WHICHEVER build I consider using it on it just doesn't fit in.


so outa curiosity, did anybody during the creation of this item consider what other items it would be used with together sensibly?`

IF you did, I'd be very keen on the logic behind that combo of effects in that slot ...

[SpartanKiller13]

Absolute Judgement - Maul - Holy, Law, Evil Outsider Bane, Command (scaling)

So this seems Paladin-themed, and especially focused towards Chaotic Evil Outsiders (like Demons). However, most of those have weakness towards Cold Iron; could this be made into a Cold Iron weapon? I'd prefer Metallic, but that would probably cost one of the weapon effects; just changing the material shouldn't affect the balance as much.

As far as the Command part, is that the +X Competence to Cha-based skill checks, or a Command spell as a weapon proc with scaling DC? If it's the +skill bonus, could that be swapped to a stacking bonus type (otherwise +22 Competence Intimidate > +6 Competence Cha skills) or ideally another weapon effect? I'd suggest Unnatural Bane or maybe a fun effect mimicking Exalted Angel's Judgement rescaled appropriately? Even Chaotic Outsider Bane would be better IMO, although that's strongly pigeonholing it into an extreme Demon beater.

Thanks for your consideration!

I think making Intercession Ward a bonus AFTER +50% threat is a big mistake. People either want threat or they REALLY REALLY REALLY do not. Putting something useful AFTER threat in a filigree set bonus is a mistake. Any threat increase should always be the LAST bonus in a set so that people can avoid it if they don't want it.

Flip side I really like having easy threat availability; for a tank with any DPS it's vital to get as much +threat as possible, and this way I can get +100% for only three filigrees (and idc about intercession ward personally). Lower tier = more +threat sets obtainable.