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    SSG wants all the top builds behind a pay wall.

    Best tank - artificer pay wall
    Spell caster - warlock pay wall
    DPS - monk pay wall

    Aasimar - pay wall

    No f2p race or class will get any huge boost to supplant the pay wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Dragonsbane View Post
    SSG wants all the top builds behind a pay wall.

    Best tank - artificer pay wall
    Spell caster - warlock pay wall
    DPS - monk pay wall

    Aasimar - pay wall

    No f2p race or class will get any huge boost to supplant the pay wall.
    Then, why not ask for a paid single class tank and an iconic dwarf?
    Lets face it, assimar was a reskinned human with half the paladin class abilities and enh dumped in their tree.
    Thiefling was cobbled together from caster trees with some horrible looking visuals, after everyone has gotten their past lives done, the number of fire sorcs in heroics and thieflings in general will drop again.

    An iconic dwarf with con to hit and damage, 10% hp, 1.5 times their con to combat moves, some prr/mrr to represent their sturdy nature and some armor class perks will sell lik hot cakes. Just dump the fighter stance perks in there the same way the paly one was dumped into assimar.
    I would buy that glorious excuse to have a big bearded dwarf again.

    Add in a single tank class with the best multiclass perks stuffed into the 18th and 20th lv cores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lyrecono View Post
    Yeah, this makes sence
    I would sign that petition.

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    Brilliant! And far more logical consistency than current. Where do I sign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Dragonsbane View Post
    SSG wants all the top builds behind a pay wall.

    Best tank - artificer pay wall
    Spell caster - warlock pay wall
    DPS - monk pay wall

    Aasimar - pay wall

    No f2p race or class will get any huge boost to supplant the pay wall.
    Well all 3 of these are wrong, so I guess no pay wall. I’ll give you Aasimar tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoBlonde View Post
    . . . you done messed up.

    Druid bear tank? Nyet.
    20 Paladin tank? Nope.
    20 Fighter tank? Are you kidding?
    20 Monk tank? Haha no.
    20 Barbarian tank? No no no. Wait . . . also no.
    Fighter/paladin/artificer tank? Yep, that's the one. Or maybe Fighter/artificer/wizard.

    Why did this happen?

    1. you have to stack multiple tank trees together to be able to tank because you need 5000+ hp, 300+ PRR, 200+ MRR to be able to survive the damage. And you still can't actually tank anything you can't intimidate.
    2. the devs completely invalidated the hp boosts from *all* tank trees except artificer with Epic Defensive Fighting for *no reason whatsoever*.
    Level 20 capstone used to be the real motivation for staying pure. It was something powerful the made you think twice before multi classing. I know the game has progressed but I still think this is an important mechanic that has been left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoBlonde View Post
    The point isn't to NEGATE multiclass builds, but to make pure builds POTENTIALLY decent. At no point did I say "take away the stuff that's lower down in the trees".

    I have yet to even once see a tank hit over 5k hp without artificer. I'm not talking about temp HP, boosted HP, reaper bonus hp. I'm talking about "HP I have standing around in the Marketplace with no buffs". Did you load on the LGS gear or something? Let's see a screenshot of your tank loadout if it's so amazing.

    Considering that you have a long and varied history of MASSIVELY inflating any claims you make about your builds, I don't buy that you've got 100% uptime or even remotely close on something like that.
    I don't feel the need to provide you a screenshot. if you have an instance that i've overinflated my builds I'd suggest providing proof instead hinting vaguely with no substance. We share a server, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for you to ask around about my tank builds and maybe learn something in the process. Simply put, a 14/5/1 Ftr/Pally/Wiz build can stand in non reaper and no temp hp above 5k HP. If you cannot get there I'm sorry that you haven't considered all your sources. Now if you want to hit 7k HP you will have to dive into arti but that is not necessary for 99% of the raiding that is done on any server.
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