Sorc endgame gear

[mikarddo]

I am looking for advice on sorc end game gear - with a focus of instakill/cc and cold damage on the side (for THTH).

I have a 5 piece slavers set currenly on a warlock alt thats changing to a sorc but I was hoping to instead use the Flamecleansed set from Sharn using the Thiefling's ability to use fire spell power for cold spells but I am having a hard time fitting everything I would like.

I would like to fit in all these effects (probably a bit too ambitious) but I am failing miserably:

Cha, I Cha, Q Cha, E Cha
Wis, I Wis, Q Wis (Mass Frog)
Con, I Con, Q Con
Some dex for reflex saves
Profane +2 Stats
Resist (or all 3 seperate resists), I Resist / Parry, Spell Saves
SF, ISF, QSF, PSF (the ring)
Spell Pen, I Spell Pen, Q Spell Pen
False Life, Hamp, Wizardry, Ghostly
Fort, Phys Shelter, Magic Shelter, I Shelter
Cold spell crit.
The 202 spell power belt
LGS affirmation proc

I realise I likely have to make some tough compromised - which I am looking for ideas on.
I dont have the +2 profane stats gloves on this char - only on my main - so those are not really an option, unfortunately.

Any advice is very welcome - in particular listings of full item setups.

[Mpareto]

I am looking for advice on sorc end game gear - with a focus of instakill/cc and cold damage on the side (for THTH).

I have a 5 piece slavers set currenly on a warlock alt thats changing to a sorc but I was hoping to instead use the Flamecleansed set from Sharn using the Thiefling's ability to use fire spell power for cold spells but I am having a hard time fitting everything I would like.

I would like to fit in all these effects (probably a bit too ambitious) but I am failing miserably:

Cha, I Cha, Q Cha, E Cha
Wis, I Wis, Q Wis (Mass Frog)
Con, I Con, Q Con
Some dex for reflex saves
Profane +2 Stats
Resist (or all 3 seperate resists), I Resist / Parry, Spell Saves
SF, ISF, QSF, PSF (the ring)
Spell Pen, I Spell Pen, Q Spell Pen
False Life, Hamp, Wizardry, Ghostly
Fort, Phys Shelter, Magic Shelter, I Shelter
Cold spell crit.
The 202 spell power belt
LGS affirmation proc

I realise I likely have to make some tough compromised - which I am looking for ideas on.
I dont have the +2 profane stats gloves on this char - only on my main - so those are not really an option, unfortunately.

Any advice is very welcome - in particular listings of full item setups.

Why not using esoteric set? Good for this Case..

Profane you get via celestial Sapphire ring.

Charisma You can get at the charisma necklace artifact

[janave]

Copied from strimtom, coz large overlap with what i use:


Helm Arcsteel Brim
Necklace Sigil of Regalport
Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, ???, CHA 4
Cloak Hallowed Trail
Belt Burnscar Sash
Ring1 Shattered Onyx
Ring2 Clouded dreams => Sapphire
Gloves Blue scale gauntlets
Boots LGS Fire
Bracers Castigators
Armor Blessed Vestments
Goggles Collective Sight - Con 22, ins con 10
Weapon Wild flame => Cold stick from the same place
Shield Giants platter => Nightmothers or LGS 3POS
Augments striding 30%, +1 globe, +2 luck
Filigree: 4 Ottos, 4 Eye of the Beholder, +2 Charisma, and 2x +1 charisma

I run with cha skills LGS 90% of the time for. and only swap to LGS crit item rarely.

PS: I run with a little less con and more wis, usually where the extra ~120hp would save me I just blame my teammates.

[mikarddo]

Why not using esoteric set? Good for this Case..

Profane you get via celestial Sapphire ring.

Charisma You can get at the charisma necklace artifact

The low MRR on Esoteric scares me. Not least in THTH which is what I am building for atm (its a raid alt, my main is on the hamster wheel).

[mikarddo]

Copied from strimtom, coz large overlap with what i use:


Helm Arcsteel Brim
Necklace Sigil of Regalport
Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, ???, CHA 4
Cloak Hallowed Trail
Belt Burnscar Sash
Ring1 Shattered Onyx
Ring2 Clouded dreams => Sapphire
Gloves Blue scale gauntlets
Boots LGS Fire
Bracers Castigators
Armor Blessed Vestments
Goggles Collective Sight - Con 22, ins con 10
Weapon Wild flame => Cold stick from the same place
Shield Giants platter => Nightmothers or LGS 3POS
Augments striding 30%, +1 globe, +2 luck
Filigree: 4 Ottos, 4 Eye of the Beholder, +2 Charisma, and 2x +1 charisma

I run with cha skills LGS 90% of the time for. and only swap to LGS crit item rarely.

PS: I run with a little less con and more wis, usually where the extra ~120hp would save me I just blame my teammates.

Thanks, I will take a closer look at this setup. Unfortunately, I dont have the Blue Scale gloves on this alt as mentioned. That would indeed make things simpler.

What are your hp like unbuffed out of Reaper mode?

[janave]

Thanks, I will take a closer look at this setup. Unfortunately, I dont have the Blue Scale gloves on this alt as mentioned. That would indeed make things simpler.

What are your hp like unbuffed out of Reaper mode?

Sapphire ring gives your profane stats, so dont need the gloves afaik. (Edit: I use the DoJ gloves)

Pre pots and reaper HP is 1200 in EA. Missing vitality, ins con (usually potting), and excCon+1 (no globe). Party buffed, potted etc ~1350.

I dont have a lot of reaper points yet. Eventually cores will add another 100-130 to this number. I could dump 1 CHA and 1DC for the 5% hps in falconry, but so far I havent found that I need it, and 5% on hovering ~1.2k is ~60hp.

Generally speaking these numbers are rarely making a difference in r6-r7s, I can surely blame my tank and dps guys if i end up dying a lot . Or curse myself for trying to be "too helpful" when zerging into softly cc-d groups.

I use intimidate which seems kinda counter productive on a sorcerer but I consider it a really great cc option for some mob types, it can also help driving mobs into aoe cc and debuffs. I would use bluff much more if it wasnt so broken, actually I think untrained bluff is somewhat more helpful. And diplo is pure gold on higher reaper.

Augments: I slot many the Gianthold ones. +2 DC, with preference order
Evoc, Enchant, Transmutation, Necro, Conjuration


For THTH US is better, the saves arent terribly high on normal, maybe even passable on hard. Buffed hp in sentinel is close to 2k.

[DaviMOC]

The low MRR on Esoteric scares me. Not least in THTH which is what I am building for atm (its a raid alt, my main is on the hamster wheel).

Yeah. Everyone noticed a signifcant drop on mrr while updating to sharn.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

Cha, I Cha, Q Cha, E Cha

Like in this ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cha-cha-cha_(dance)

[mikarddo]

Like in this ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cha-cha-cha_(dance)

I used to dance a reasonable cha-cha-cha with my wife but my/our skills have since waned unfortunately.

[mikarddo]

Sapphire ring gives your profane stats, so dont need the gloves afaik. (Edit: I use the DoJ gloves)

Pre pots and reaper HP is 1200 in EA. Missing vitality, ins con (usually potting), and excCon+1 (no globe). Party buffed, potted etc ~1350.

I dont have a lot of reaper points yet. Eventually cores will add another 100-130 to this number. I could dump 1 CHA and 1DC for the 5% hps in falconry, but so far I havent found that I need it, and 5% on hovering ~1.2k is ~60hp.

Generally speaking these numbers are rarely making a difference in r6-r7s, I can surely blame my tank and dps guys if i end up dying a lot . Or curse myself for trying to be "too helpful" when zerging into softly cc-d groups.

I use intimidate which seems kinda counter productive on a sorcerer but I consider it a really great cc option for some mob types, it can also help driving mobs into aoe cc and debuffs. I would use bluff much more if it wasnt so broken, actually I think untrained bluff is somewhat more helpful. And diplo is pure gold on higher reaper.

Augments: I slot many the Gianthold ones. +2 DC, with preference order
Evoc, Enchant, Transmutation, Necro, Conjuration

For THTH US is better, the saves arent terribly high on normal, maybe even passable on hard. Buffed hp in sentinel is close to 2k.

Thanks, I will try US for THTH.

Whats your DC / spell power / spell crit with this setup?

For augments I use all the +2 DC, +2 Good Luck, Masters Gift, Globe, +2 Festive Wis for Mass Frog, Draconic Soul Gem with False Life, Vitality, Fear Immunity and Blindness Immunity sometimes being used depending on exact gear, How I wish they would upgrade the other augments though to make gearing more flexible (say +12 resist augment instead of only +8).

[janave]

Thanks, I will try US for THTH.

Whats your DC / spell power / spell crit with this setup?

For augments I use all the +2 DC, +2 Good Luck, Masters Gift, Globe, +2 Festive Wis for Mass Frog, Draconic Soul Gem with False Life, Vitality, Fear Immunity and Blindness Immunity sometimes being used depending on exact gear, How I wish they would upgrade the other augments though to make gearing more flexible (say +12 resist augment instead of only +8).

Very build and progress specific, but generally in EA 115 ish evo, 105-100 Other schools (unbuffed, no reaper), enchant being 2nd closest. Frog is probably 70something, altho it feels more. Sentinel -6 to all, I am taking CONs.

Largest single hit i took was 950-ish on LN THTH, being very cautious with movement. (flying skulls when not controlled).

Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, _spellcraft22_, CHA 4 --This is the saves gear atm. So no need to augment it if you can make one of these.

[mikarddo]

Very build and progress specific, but generally in EA 115 ish evo, 105-100 Other schools (unbuffed, no reaper), enchant being 2nd closest. Frog is probably 70something, altho it feels more. Sentinel -6 to all, I am taking CONs.

Largest single hit i took was 950-ish on LN THTH, being very cautious with movement. (flying skulls when not controlled).

Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, _spellcraft22_, CHA 4 --This is the saves gear atm. So no need to augment it if you can make one of these.

Aye, I know about Slavers gear. Its just very annoying to refarm so having a reasonable alternative in augment would be nice both for flexibility and less refarming older content.

[janave]

to be honest the biggest pain with this item setup is the loss of nearly 1k spell point s if I want to use the DW neck cliky from WPM

on top of that another -400 if i swap to a scroll at the start of the quest from the ottos set artifact.

[mikarddo]

to be honest the biggest pain with this item setup is the loss of nearly 1k spell point s if I want to use the DW neck cliky from WPM

on top of that another -400 if i swap to a scroll at the start of the quest from the ottos set artifact.

True enough. I am feeling that pain as well. I suppose using an augment in the necklace might lessen the problem - or even using the old googles with DW initially till the first 1k sp are gone.

[BigErkyKid]

Alright, what else could I be doing without racial /class completionist and a ton of racial PLs??


Charisma

20 base
7 levels
2 racial enhancements
4 savant enhancements
2 EK enhancements
4 reaper enhancements
6 tome
2 guild --47
2 yugo
2 remnant
22 minor artifact
10 insight onyx
4 quality slaver
2 draconic ED -- 42
3 filigree
3 artifact set
2 profane
1 Bard twist echos

Total = 98


Thanks in advance!

[mr420247]

If you just want to pump charisma drac is not a good ed

ea 8 or fatesinger 12 or just go pm for dcs

could also change your night mother setup

4 otto with 4 cha and then 3 more cha fils on your artifact

[BigErkyKid]

If you just want to pump charisma drac is not a good ed

ea 8 or fatesinger 12 or just go pm for dcs

could also change your night mother setup

4 otto with 4 cha and then 3 more cha fils on your artifact

I don’t want to max out cha, just get some more. Mobs are saving too much even with evo maxed out on everything else.

I thought multiple of the same type didn’t stack for filigrees?

[Zretch]

I don’t want to max out cha, just get some more. Mobs are saving too much even with evo maxed out on everything else.

I thought multiple of the same type didn’t stack for filigrees?

I'm guessing you only have 2 CHA from draconic because you're taking both Energy Burst and Dragon Breath. Drop them and you'd be amazed at how many AP it opens up. You can get a full stack of CHA from draconic, keep all of the +Evo and +Casting levels skills, retain the +crit damage cores, and twist the magistar +Evo dcs. You can certainly get higher evo DCs if you go into the Magistar tree instead, twist in the draconic Evo skill, and twist in energy burst, but you miss out on the +crit damage and given a crit percentage in the 80s-90s, that can be a significant loss.

Yes, you won't have your big "ohh ahh" spells, but meteor swarm hits plenty hard and refreshes every few seconds, as opposed to EB and DB which are on long cooldowns.

[mr420247]

As long as all the charisma filigrees are from different sets they stack fine and the 2 cha raid thread one stacks with the 1 too i think

If your losing EB and DB why even bother playing in drac those are the funnest parts of drac

That setups usually better for things like frog, bogw, lock hurl slas etc

[BigErkyKid]

Thanks for the answers. Essentially, there is no real way to get past 100 without tomes, completionist, and a fully leveled sentient?

I hesitate to get +2 CHA and give up on the fun abilities.