2019 ED Pass: New Epic Past Lives

[Rasts]

I haven't played an alt more than a quest since reaper came out. Let's not even talk about how little i use my other accounts.

You don’t want to do quest at lv 20-30 cause it’s a grind. So what exactly do u do at 30? Raids only? The whole game is based on questing. Perhaps you are more suited to hard or elite if you cannot grind or be bothered putting in any effort to your toon.

[shmagmhar]

Ok, I have to say this. Cause I deal with this in my guild and sick to death of it. To all the people complaining that they have to many alts, there’s too many past life’s to do etc. GET over it. You are all more then happy to get carried through r8–10 and pick up the free reaper points. Play one toon, you have the option to tr to what ever you want most times, so grind it out and work hard like the rest of us had to. The people that have worked hard for years deserve to have what they have. If you don’t like it go back to running r1 or hard mode. Sorry if this offends.

. yeah im offended I already only have one character . and no im not done complaining . i have most of the epic lives , not looking foward to having to earn 12 more with nothing new added to the game . not just for me being "lazy" also powercreep , widening the divide, points brought up earlier . yeah people who worked hard for years DO deserve what they have . so just let them be at peace and let them have what they have !

[Fedora1]

not looking foward to having to earn 12 more with nothing new added to the game

"What is this "having" to earn? You mean I HAVE to do them, whether I want to or not? You're right, that sucks.

[Rasts]

. yeah im offended I already only have one character . and no im not done complaining . i have most of the epic lives , not looking foward to having to earn 12 more with nothing new added to the game . not just for me being "lazy" also powercreep , widening the divide, points brought up earlier . yeah people who worked hard for years DO deserve what they have . so just let them be at peace and let them have what they have !

Power creep, that is the stupidest comment I have heard yet. If you people haven’t noticed since level one you have been powercreeping. Stay in korthos if power creep bother you. If your are not looking forward to doing the extra life’s, don’t do them. These extra lives are not going to do that much to your toon anyways, unless you just want to be able to say you are a conpletionist...I think it’s great , another way to slightly improve your toon. I have a triple completions with 100 reaper points and also play a first lifer. With the sharn 3 piece set and artifact you can run any quest at 30 r1, u just need the skills. Keep practicing. If you want to run r-8 to 10 you need to grind out the reaper points. This isn’t fortnight, everyone isn’t design to be equal with out some form of effort. If it was most players would have lost interest years ago. Also this widening the divide thing is rubbish I am alway posting and accepting first lifers in r8-10. They might die a lot as it’s a total different play style but they soon learn and have fun and always keen for more. If you are not getting regular r6-10 posted in LFG consider swapping server to kyber , we are alway looking for more. Best of luck .

[shmagmhar]

[QUOTE=Bumsmell;6225763]Power creep, that is the stupidest comment I have heard yet. look alot of people have brought it up , its not just me . why do you have to call my comment stupid? just say you disagree , if you disagree .

[Strambotica]

this has evoked my nerdrage .or I would not have taken the time to comment a new desitiny would have been cool maybe , but just having to work more to get some past life feat i will not use for passive defensive bonus's is not exciting to me . I toiled enough to have nearly all the epic past lives . I have barely goten to do racial past lives .
balancing the EDs yes , ok . but more epic past lives , please dont do it , I dont think its going to add much to the game . except for frustration . we are so caught up in getting past lives we . it makes it harder to appreciate the game. thankyou

Don’t know exactly why so much frustration. You say it yourself; you have many PL to work on it and could do some of this EPL at the same time. They are NOT changing the Epic Completionist.

IF you want to have full completionist someday it is:

• 45 Heroic/Class PL
• 36 Racial PL
• 21 Iconic PL (That if you mix with the Class, then only 24 Class PL)
• 45 ED PL (With this new ones)

So, if you take your time could do the ones you need, in a build that fits you.
IF you don’t want the entire grind, just do the ones you need for your build and that is.

And…

I haven't played an alt more than a quest since reaper came out. Let's not even talk about how little i use my other accounts.

Agree that isn’t easy to have some alts, but with the time maybe you could.

For example, have 3 alts that try to keep at cap for Raids (All fully geared), now I’m going to take up one of those alts this week. And my main still missing some for finish all the PL, but she has 57 PL (28 Heroic (8 of those iconic), 29 Racials and 101 Reaper Points).
Versus the one ill grab now: 10 PL, 22 Reaper Points (zero racial T.T ill miss those extra AP).

And for both:
Please don’t forget that is a game that needs to grow to keep customers, and we are all here to have fun. A game where you press a button and you get everything doesn’t sound fun. And guess what, for those who prefer everything fast there are Otto Boxes, +20 Heart of wood (to avoid classes that you don’t like) and now Wish for Memories (to avoid a race that you don’t like). Thinking that you could get 900 DDO points per life (ok, depending in which quests you do... but 1-30 with high reapers at the end is more or less this amount) isn't to terrible.

PS: Thanks Devs, someday ill enjoy those extra Fate Points :P

[erethizon]

this has evoked my nerdrage .or I would not have taken the time to comment a new desitiny would have been cool maybe , but just having to work more to get some past life feat i will not use for passive defensive bonus's is not exciting to me . I toiled enough to have nearly all the epic past lives . I have barely goten to do racial past lives .
balancing the EDs yes , ok . but more epic past lives , please dont do it , I dont think its going to add much to the game . except for frustration . we are so caught up in getting past lives we . it makes it harder to appreciate the game. thankyou

The game is much more fun when you play it from 1 to 30 and get both a racial and epic past life. The epic past life is only tedious because people keep going from level 20 to 30 over and over again (with no reset in Bravery Bonus or Favor). Since you already have most of your epic past lives just get the remaining ones one at a time while you do your racials.

[slarden]

Ok, I have to say this. Cause I deal with this in my guild and sick to death of it. To all the people complaining that they have to many alts, there’s too many past life’s to do etc. GET over it. You are all more then happy to get carried through r8–10 and pick up the free reaper points. Play one toon, you have the option to tr to what ever you want most times, so grind it out and work hard like the rest of us had to. The people that have worked hard for years deserve to have what they have. If you don’t like it go back to running r1 or hard mode. Sorry if this offends.

You are right, playing alts is in a very bad place and playing a single character will clearly result in a more powerful character. It's not due to earning though, but rather a reward structure that favors a single powerful character rather than running alts. If you want to get rewards for everything you earn you must run a single character.

Player opinion and preference doesn't really matter- Sev is on record saying there won't be any changes to this.

[lyrecono]

Ok, I have to say this. Cause I deal with this in my guild and sick to death of it. To all the people complaining that they have to many alts, there’s too many past life’s to do etc. GET over it. You are all more then happy to get carried through r8–10 and pick up the free reaper points. Play one toon, you have the option to tr to what ever you want most times, so grind it out and work hard like the rest of us had to. The people that have worked hard for years deserve to have what they have. If you don’t like it go back to running r1 or hard mode. Sorry if this offends.

Wow, what server are you on? And howlong will you be carying gimps?
In my neck of the woods, you're supposed to cary your own weight, contribute or ger lost is the motto.
That means having the right build, dps, cc, defences, reaper points, etc.
People have exp pots running and every minute they spend carying your soulstone is money lost on the exp pot.

So most people over here grind reaper points out of necessity, because they expect they'll need it in the future with the ever increasing difficulty and expectations of other players.
1 guild already expects you to have spend 21 points in grim baricade and 21 in either of the 2 other trees in order to join the non reaper raids.

This problem will only grow in the future due to the shrinking playerbase and the difficulty of filling a raid in my neck of the woods.

Power creep, that is the stupidest comment I have heard yet. If you people haven’t noticed since level one you have been powercreeping. Stay in korthos if power creep bother you. If your are not looking forward to doing the extra life’s, don’t do them. These extra lives are not going to do that much to your toon anyways, unless you just want to be able to say you are a conpletionist...I think it’s great , another way to slightly improve your toon. I have a triple completions with 100 reaper points and also play a first lifer. With the sharn 3 piece set and artifact you can run any quest at 30 r1, u just need the skills. Keep practicing. If you want to run r-8 to 10 you need to grind out the reaper points. This isn’t fortnight, everyone isn’t design to be equal with out some form of effort. If it was most players would have lost interest years ago. Also this widening the divide thing is rubbish I am alway posting and accepting first lifers in r8-10. They might die a lot as it’s a total different play style but they soon learn and have fun and always keen for more. If you are not getting regular r6-10 posted in LFG consider swapping server to kyber , we are alway looking for more. Best of luck .

A first lifer? Only with the right build, i wouldn't want to play a 2hf pure barbarian in reaper.

The game is much more fun when you play it from 1 to 30 and get both a racial and epic past life. The epic past life is only tedious because people keep going from level 20 to 30 over and over again (with no reset in Bravery Bonus or Favor). Since you already have most of your epic past lives just get the remaining ones one at a time while you do your racials.

Yeah, i always suggest newer toons/players should reset their first time completion in epics.
Sadly a lot of people were already heroic completionist when epic lives came out.
Racials are the better option these days anyway.
On the other hand i do understand some of the players that don't reset epic lives.
Grouping is sometimes easier then heroics.
And then there is the issue of first time completions. A lot of low level epic quests are absolutely no fun on some builds (some non cheese) melee springs to mind.zerging hard and normal yieds better results, especially if you have to solo a lot. I know a lot of people on the forum have a grand old time filling lfm's in the US prime time but some of us onlly dream of having party members and solo entire chains out of necessity.

[Indoran]

. yeah im offended I already only have one character . and no im not done complaining . i have most of the epic lives , not looking foward to having to earn 12 more with nothing new added to the game . not just for me being "lazy" also powercreep , widening the divide, points brought up earlier . yeah people who worked hard for years DO deserve what they have . so just let them be at peace and let them have what they have !

You don't ahve to do anything.

I want the new past lives in the game... as an option for anybody who WANTS to get them.


If it's not for you... simply move along

[jskinner937]

. yeah im offended I already only have one character . and no im not done complaining . i have most of the epic lives , not looking foward to having to earn 12 more with nothing new added to the game . not just for me being "lazy" also powercreep , widening the divide, points brought up earlier . yeah people who worked hard for years DO deserve what they have . so just let them be at peace and let them have what they have !

I just did a PUG reaper Strahd and Baba. I had a brand new first life player and another alt first lifer in both groups. No wings around the names. We completed both. You do not need anything in this game to be successful outside of game knowledge.

Some of us are addicted to power although and we do want higher rewards and higher difficulties. Play how you want and what you want. Do not think that your toon will be competitive with the like of someone that has been playing and investing more than a decade although. Just the same in RL when you are fresh out of college and expect to be as successful as someone that has 10 years on you. It just doesn't work this way. But maybe you can take the advantage of what you have and the time you want to put into it. Entitlement is what this is called. Do you have an Obama phone by chance?

[Tilomere]

Small change, but can you standardize Elf-AA cores level requirements to match the rest of game now that inquisitor (and vkf) is out for more even epic leveling capacity for those that want to use bows vs. crossbows?

The logic that classes that don't innately have access to a powerful dps tree should progress in a non-class dps tree slower and benefit less seems irrelevant now that inquisitor and vkf are out with regular progression and full benefits, plus the 14 AP unlock and lack of a base stat to damage with bows already ensures they progress slower in it and benefit less.

[noble_pirate]

if you're going to keep adding more and more and more and more and more and more and more past lives, can you give us shared lives across our account toons? This has gotten way freaking out of hand.

^this +1000