i2049

[Clemeit]

A warning message upon entering a quest with instance 2049 would be sweet. Like "You're entering instance 2049, continue?"

[Steelstar]

A warning message upon entering a quest with instance 2049 would be sweet. Like "You're entering instance 2049, continue?"

2049 (like all other instance numbers) is essentially a meaningless label for our own internal purposes. See this post for a more detailed description, but you see lag most frequently in i2049 because, by and large, it is the most-frequently-used label. Seeing the most lag in i2049 is a bit like saying "It rains on more weekdays than weekends" - Technically true, but mostly because most days are, in fact, weekdays, and not because weekdays unnaturally attract rain.

[Hutoth]

2049... *snip* "It rains on more weekdays than weekends"

[Clemeit]

2049 (like all other instance numbers) is essentially a meaningless label for our own internal purposes. See this post for a more detailed description, but you see lag most frequently in i2049 because, by and large, it is the most-frequently-used label. Seeing the most lag in i2049 is a bit like saying "It rains on more weekdays than weekends" - Technically true, but mostly because most days are, in fact, weekdays, and not because weekdays unnaturally attract rain.

Understandable. Also thank you for refreshing my memory of that post - I read it when you posted it but I've since forgotten. This is just difficult for players to accept - however true - because, among other things, confirmation bias. Whenever we (referring to guild raiding) wipe due to lag, we check the instance. It's almost exclusively (I might be so bold as to claim absolute exclusivity here) i2049. I can't think of a single time we've lag wiped and checked /loc and not seen i2049. I suppose we should start checking the label every time we don't lag wipe and we might notice it usually says i2049 as well.

For now, we'll just continue to restart every time we get into i2049. Even if it's just placebo or superstition, it seems work for us.

I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious

[HungarianRhapsody]

2049 (like all other instance numbers) is essentially a meaningless label for our own internal purposes. See this post for a more detailed description, but you see lag most frequently in i2049 because, by and large, it is the most-frequently-used label. Seeing the most lag in i2049 is a bit like saying "It rains on more weekdays than weekends" - Technically true, but mostly because most days are, in fact, weekdays, and not because weekdays unnaturally attract rain.

It turns out that there is actually a causal relationship between weekends and precipitation. Decreased airline flights over the weekend actually have a meaningful, measurable affect on the amount of precipitation worldwide. Weekends have less daily precipitation than we ends. Not just less total precipitation.

Edit - my bad. I said it backwards. There is more daily precipitation on the weekend than there is on weekdays. I had it backwards, but it actually is a real phenomenon akd not just superstition.

[Ghwyn]

2049 (like all other instance numbers) is essentially a meaningless label for our own internal purposes. See this post for a more detailed description, but you see lag most frequently in i2049 because, by and large, it is the most-frequently-used label. Seeing the most lag in i2049 is a bit like saying "It rains on more weekdays than weekends" - Technically true, but mostly because most days are, in fact, weekdays, and not because weekdays unnaturally attract rain.

A common problem many people have is that when they don't understand something, they fill in the unknown with whatever they hear first. Changing that misinformation is quite the task, as so few are willing to let go of it for some reason I don't understand.

[kain741]

A common problem many people have is that when they don't understand something, they fill in the unknown with whatever they hear first. Changing that misinformation is quite the task, as so few are willing to let go of it for some reason I don't understand.

Quite possibly because people observe the same issue over and over again. Perhaps instead of having the majority of instances be 2049 it could be more balanced so that it does not lag. It does not have to simply be written off as short sighted thought. I have in fact noticed that we always a lag in 2049. Sometimes we check it when we enter and continue forward anyway only to lag out. I rarely, if ever, see a time that we see its 2049 proceed and don't lag out.

[Clemeit]

A common problem many people have is that when they don't understand something, they fill in the unknown with whatever they hear first. Changing that misinformation is quite the task, as so few are willing to let go of it for some reason I don't understand.

Hmm, no. It has more to do with confirmation bias. The majority of instances are i2049. When we lag-wipe and check the instance, we're most likely in i2049. There may be no causation, but it's perfectly normal to notice the correlation.

[systemshaker1941]

It turns out that there is actually a causal relationship between weekends and precipitation.

I think you nat1d the perception check on that metaphor

[Jandric]

2049 (like all other instance numbers) is essentially a meaningless label for our own internal purposes. See this post for a more detailed description, but you see lag most frequently in i2049 because, by and large, it is the most-frequently-used label. Seeing the most lag in i2049 is a bit like saying "It rains on more weekdays than weekends" - Technically true, but mostly because most days are, in fact, weekdays, and not because weekdays unnaturally attract rain.

While there may not be a 486 in a dusty corner labeled i2049, that doesn't change the fact that when people enter a quest, they are placed in 2049 more often than not and have a higher likelihood to experience lag . Savvy users will know to use /loc and reset the instance to fix/avoid this, but others don't. Those others may get discouraged and leave the game due to lag, whereas the savvier people are merely annoyed by juggling instances. Is there anything to the theory in the thread from 2016 regarding lag in 2049 being due to the fact that it is most likely the instance that has been up the longest, and thus may have performance issues due to resource management until the server is restarted? It's not all that different than Leaving Chrome or Firefox up for days and days.

[HungarianRhapsody]

I think you nat1d the perception check on that metaphor

No. Steelstar happened to use a metaphor that is incorrect. I get what he was trying to say, but there is more daily precipitation on the weekend than their is on weekdays. It's not just superstition or our perception that makes it seem that way.

It's possible that there isn't any more lag on i2049 than on any other instance, but that was a bad metaphor to use because of the causal (not just correlation) increase in daily precipitation on the weekends.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

I think a chest somewhere within the game should contain exactly 2049 coins.

[Draksel]

I think a chest somewhere within the game should contain exactly 2049 coins.

Put that chest on the deck of the ship in The Black Loch.

[Annihilyght]

No. Steelstar happened to use a metaphor that is incorrect. I get what he was trying to say, but there is more daily precipitation on the weekend than their is on weekdays. It's not just superstition or our perception that makes it seem that way.

It's possible that there isn't any more lag on i2049 than on any other instance, but that was a bad metaphor to use because of the causal (not just correlation) increase in daily precipitation on the weekends.

Pretty sure this post couldn't contain more wrong information if you tried.

[HungarianRhapsody]

Pretty sure this post couldn't contain more wrong information if you tried.

Google it. See for yourself.

[Yokido]

It wouldn't hurt to have a mod or other such entity going about the game servers searching for high-risk lag situations and rectifying them if this is such a problem. Nothing says perspective like actually seeing and hearing a party cry about wiping an EH Fire on Thunder Peak solely because of lag.