Character reset item

[Grugmak]

As someone who likes to make experimental builds and test them out I occasionally run into the issue of a build that just isn't viable. It looks good on paper and if it ever got to end game it might still work out nicely, but in practice leveling it up just stops being fun at a certain point. This typically causes me to "brick wall" and I either TR a character I'm not ready to or just move onto playing something else.

What I would like to see is an item added to the game (preferably not a purely DDO store item) that is another type of reincarnation heart, call it a corrupted heart, broken heart, whatever and all it serves to do is it acts as a true life reset. Usable at any level, it will allow you to immediately completely reroll this character as if you had true reincarnated. IF something like this is implemented and it does wind up being a DDO store item it should at least be cheaper than the other TR hearts as you gain no benefit, it is simply a life reset.

-you will retain all previous reincarnation feats
-retain access to all the gear etc via TR cache (may need to be emptied like current TRs, guessing the mechanics will be required to be the same)
-lose all currently gained levels and reroll at 1 (or 15 if rolling into an iconic)
-can change race, sex, alignment, and class just as if you had done a true reincarnate
-do not gain a new TR feat for the current life (the one being rerolled)
-if a first or second life also do not gain the new point builds

Honestly I have run into situations where I would have loved to have something like this on several occasions, invariably a year or so later I wind up coming back to that character and just suffering through and getting to TR level and immediately TRing, but it isn't fun and usually gets either prefaced or shortly followed by a hiatus from the game.

[TitusOvid]

As someone who likes to make experimental builds and test them out I occasionally run into the issue of a build that just isn't viable. It looks good on paper and if it ever got to end game it might still work out nicely, but in practice leveling it up just stops being fun at a certain point. This typically causes me to "brick wall" and I either TR a character I'm not ready to or just move onto playing something else.

What I would like to see is an item added to the game (preferably not a purely DDO store item) that is another type of reincarnation heart, call it a corrupted heart, broken heart, whatever and all it serves to do is it acts as a true life reset. Usable at any level, it will allow you to immediately completely reroll this character as if you had true reincarnated. IF something like this is implemented and it does wind up being a DDO store item it should at least be cheaper than the other TR hearts as you gain no benefit, it is simply a life reset.

-you will retain all previous reincarnation feats
-retain access to all the gear etc via TR cache (may need to be emptied like current TRs, guessing the mechanics will be required to be the same)
-lose all currently gained levels and reroll at 1 (or 15 if rolling into an iconic)
-can change race, sex, alignment, and class just as if you had done a true reincarnate
-do not gain a new TR feat for the current life (the one being rerolled)
-if a first or second life also do not gain the new point builds

Honestly I have run into situations where I would have loved to have something like this on several occasions, invariably a year or so later I wind up coming back to that character and just suffering through and getting to TR level and immediately TRing, but it isn't fun and usually gets either prefaced or shortly followed by a hiatus from the game.

Mostly you describe a Lesser Heart of Wood. It does all what you listed except "can change race, sex, alignment" and "lose all currently gained levels and reroll at 1 (or 15 if rolling into an iconic)".
For alignment you have to get an alignment change token.
So race, sex and level are left and that is not really game breaking, imo.

Cheers,
Titus

[Grugmak]

Mostly you describe a Lesser Heart of Wood. It does all what you listed except "can change race, sex, alignment" and "lose all currently gained levels and reroll at 1 (or 15 if rolling into an iconic)".
For alignment you have to get an alignment change token.
So race, sex and level are left and that is not really game breaking, imo.

Cheers,
Titus

I know all about the lesser heart thanks, and you completely glossed over the part where class was mentioned. Precisely why I suggested this. A lesser heart only lets you reset your skills, stats, and current races looks; nothing else. You also keep all of your current levels, if you want to make any changes outside of those parameters you are SOL.

And before you try to go "oh but there's +x hearts", half the time these problems get noticed by 10-15, +20 hearts are almost never for sale and I don't really want to buy 3+ different hearts to only halfass reroll my character, nevermind if I took 3 classes I can't anyway unless its to change into one of those 3 classes.

I posted this suggestion because it is a niche that remains unfilled by any other means, and if you're going to offer feedback I would appreciate you actually taking the time to read the suggestion and process it before posting a reply that shows you didn't.

[C-Dog]

(I know, right? Don'tcha hate that? )

What the OP wants is significantly less than what a +X Heart offers. It's just a "start over" option - let's just forget everything that happened so far with this life, and try again where we started a few/several levels ago.

It's not something that everyone wants, but neither is a +20 HoW, and those are popular enough.

It should be ~about~ the same price as a LHoW, but slightly less - you certainly aren't gaining anything, and are losing quite a bit in terms of xp.

And it would (slightly) populate the lower quest levels of the game, which is where newer players are, so would help in that regard.

(I ~might~ put a limit on Favor - possibilities for abuse? If favor is not reset, then that would be win/win.)

[Oliphant]

I support it as there's no real harm to anyone else in letting someone off a train to nowhere and get a do-over. The issue is when you have a toon with past lives but you mess up a build and would rather just forfeit the progress and try again. Seems reasonable. Only negative would be loss of xp stone sales from folks just wanting out of a bad life, but the xp stones come out rarely and unpredictably so they are not really for that purpose, and I don't think it wise to figuratively take hostages to sell advancement. Also, sometimes you just need to shift your level range so you can accommodate playing with your static group - this accomplishes that.

[zsospeck666]

In short a TR that can be performed at any level, but doesn't give a past life feat.
I heartily approve.

[JOTMON]

Add reset button before exiting into the playable world for any TR...

can we get a reset button added to the stone levelling process.. whether its iconic, epic, lesser.. whatever...

you know.. the pain..

in the midst of doing a reincarnation and realize something was incorrectly taken, whether its a feat, class.. whatever...
and in that moment realize you are screwed and have to finish levelling a broken toon since we currently do not have a go back button...

asking to have that ..' nope.. that's not right.. start again... button..

Think of all the GM intervention that could be avoided since players would not have to harass GMS, bug report.. because something screwed up whether its lag, misclick, or human error.....


a simple [reset] during or even at the end of the process before stepping out the door.

[TitusOvid]

I know all about the lesser heart thanks, and you completely glossed over the part where class was mentioned. Precisely why I suggested this. A lesser heart only lets you reset your skills, stats, and current races looks; nothing else. You also keep all of your current levels, if you want to make any changes outside of those parameters you are SOL.

And before you try to go "oh but there's +x hearts", half the time these problems get noticed by 10-15, +20 hearts are almost never for sale and I don't really want to buy 3+ different hearts to only halfass reroll my character, nevermind if I took 3 classes I can't anyway unless its to change into one of those 3 classes.

I posted this suggestion because it is a niche that remains unfilled by any other means, and if you're going to offer feedback I would appreciate you actually taking the time to read the suggestion and process it before posting a reply that shows you didn't.

(I know, right? Don'tcha hate that? )

What the OP wants is significantly less than what a +X Heart offers. It's just a "start over" option - let's just forget everything that happened so far with this life, and try again where we started a few/several levels ago.

It's not something that everyone wants, but neither is a +20 HoW, and those are popular enough.

It should be ~about~ the same price as a LHoW, but slightly less - you certainly aren't gaining anything, and are losing quite a bit in terms of xp.

And it would (slightly) populate the lower quest levels of the game, which is where newer players are, so would help in that regard.

(I ~might~ put a limit on Favor - possibilities for abuse? If favor is not reset, then that would be win/win.)

Thanks for your condescending tones. We really need more of this on the forum.
I merely pointed out that there are possibilities for what you seek. It might not be ideal and a pain but it is avaiable. And before you come down on me again, it is not a bad idea and I wish you good luck on your endeavour.
Pardon me, if I don't support you further though.

Cheers,
Titus.